Well, Trump has finally and overtly committed treason

[Carnal_Flower]

Heather Hyer. Who got run over by a rabid racist Trump-supporting Nazi

Those two Good Samaritans in Portland trying to stop a Muslim girl from being harassed on the train. By a rabid racist Trump supporter.

That Muslim guy who got killed by a rabid racist Trump supporter in a bar in Kansas City or wherever it was. Google it.

Trump's a racist who emboldens and encourages racist violence.

So, no one was killed...



Good to know.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I was not fully aware of the Family Jewels report. I remember (not very surprising) revelations of CIA bad behavior about a decade ago, but not the name of the report or the details. Thanks for that. I’ll study up.

I do recall the Church Committee, though. The pre-Bush CIA sure was wacky. They invested $ in trying to make Castro’s beard fall out, for crying out loud.

Are you suggesting that the CIA’s interference with journalism in the 1970s, a Cold War effort to combat the perceived influence of Soviet Communism, has morphed into a 21st Century left wing conspiracy against Trump, the Republican Party, and conservative ideals in general?

Seriously?

Yes, this is how fucking nuts he is. He is suggesting that the ultra-liberal Deep State-controlled CIA killed a Democratic President who started the Peace Corps, Martin Luther King who only turned an entire racist Southern culture on its collective ear and JFK's even more liberal brother Bobby to deprive him of the Presidency AND (presumably) serving as even a greater facilitator of the "Deep State" himself. All three of these individuals would have seemed to be more than willing agents of the very political agenda this jackleg idiot is paranoid of.

And more than a little mind numbing, he believes that internal conspiracy has operated unimpeded during BOTH Democratic and Republican administrations -- when George H. W. Bush, William Casey, served as CIA directors -- and probably continues to operate unimpeded during the Trump administration.

There are simply no contravening common sense facts that paranoia cannot ignore.

 

[SoulAssasin247]

Oh, so that would be an example of gov't and the Pres "directly affecting our lives."

You may have to come up with a different reason to complain about Trump bashers. "How is he affecting your life" is not going to cut it, since we AGREE that everything Presidents do affects our lives.

Trump's "zero tolerance" policy was the first to not keep families together as a blanket policy upon detention. The first to rip INFANTS out of their mom's arms. The first to create "tender age" shelters and hide the girls and toddlers. The first to deport the parents while their kids were god knows where with no plans to ever reunite them. The Trump Admin stole and kidnapped kids, and still haven't fixed it.

Obama never did that at the border or anywhere else. There were some "separations" in isolated cases, like where it was determined that the child was being abused and it was not in their best interest to be returned to the parents.

You're full of it in that respect. Maybe you don't care about immigrants like you claim, hypocrite


How are liberals more guilty of crimes against minorities?

You don't care about immigrants, but want to use them to fit your argument.


You asked me to give you an example of how Liberals are more guilty of crimes against what America calls minorities, but you highlighted it in black on your response to me. They let neighborhoods crumble, not protecting the good hard working people by being soft on crime, making programs to give housing away spreading the criminals to different sectors in the city. Look at Detroit, Chicago, NYC when they were under the Democrats. They use people that most Americans call minorities and when voted in only hurt them. I am not a Republican or Conservative, but they aren't guilty of that.


You are right about Obama making it easier for immigrants, but Bill Clinton has the same belief on immigration as Trump, only he says it in a more Presidential way.

 

[doowdniw]

Yes indeed. DeepState is the enemy.

Who is this "DeepState" to whom you refer? How long has the US "deepstate" existed. Who leads it? Who are its members? Real names would be good so that we can weed out this riffraff.

 

[thør]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37630505_1979850948719798_415829486534131712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e14cb7915539c38ff4ec5777b2c39067&oe=5BD3306B

 

[Luk]

PS - you posted at least one dead link. Do you even read them, or just find them?

AJ, you've been in the Top (bottom) 5 of this dumbfuckery for 2 decades. Just because you got banned and came back with TWO alts doesn't mean you get to escape the bullshit you have spread here for years. Also, fuck you.

 

[Saint_Ann]

AJ, you've been in the Top (bottom) 5 of this dumbfuckery for 2 decades. Just because you got banned and came back with TWO alts doesn't mean you get to escape the bullshit you have spread here for years. Also, fuck you.

Lawlz. Umm....

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=88279887&postcount=126

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I'm not making any argument. I'm stating FACTS about Trump's family separation policy.


I would hate it no matter who it was targeted against but it's a million times worse to target desperate people who have little to hang onto except their family. That would be refugees and immigrants. It was a sickening, disgusting policy that the entire world rose up against--except immigrant "supporters" such as yourself, apparently.

You don't care about immigrants, but want to use them to fit your argument.


You asked me to give you an example of how Liberals are more guilty of crimes against what America calls minorities, but you highlighted it in black on your response to me. They let neighborhoods crumble, not protecting the good hard working people by being soft on crime, making programs to give housing away spreading the criminals to different sectors in the city. Look at Detroit, Chicago, NYC when they were under the Democrats. They use people that most Americans call minorities and when voted in only hurt them. I am not a Republican or Conservative, but they aren't guilty of that.


You are right about Obama making it easier for immigrants, but Bill Clinton has the same belief on immigration as Trump, only he says it in a more Presidential way.

 

[SoulAssasin247]

I'm not making any argument. I'm stating FACTS about Trump's family separation policy.


I would hate it no matter who it was targeted against but it's a million times worse to target desperate people who have little to hang onto except their family. That would be refugees and immigrants. It was a sickening, disgusting policy that the entire world rose up against--except immigrant "supporters" such as yourself, apparently.

What I am saying is that, these or similar policies have been in place for a long time, with the exception of the Obama administration( because he eventually passed a Bill to help immigrants stay in the country ). If you ask the whole country, you'll have a 50/50 split on the issue, give or take. I wish there was a fair way to satisfy everyone, but you can't, you're either for or against it. Democrats and Republicans are guilty of it

 

[070276]

The American Deep State began the day the previously totally independent States ceded their natural sovereignty to the very concept of the new, collective federal government. Patrick Henry famously foretold that such unAmerican "consolidation" wouldn't last 100 years before revolution naturally erupted against it.

74 years later, America's War of Rebellion commenced. Tyrannically statist Abe then brought Deep State POWER/CONTROL to full unAmerican light, costing around 1 million American lives simply to FORCEFULLY hold a "voluntary" union together.

Before the Civil War, America's postal service offered the greatest presence of federal government throughout the country; after the Civil War, and Lincoln's assassination, Deep State government POWER/CONTROL grew exponentially all over the land, especially in the defeated south. But that statist presence wasn't for the primary benefit of the people the War had helped so much to free, as was evidenced by that statist government barely 10 years after Appomattox when Republicans Grant and Hayes both deemed keeping the POWER of their Deep State consolidated was more important than the natural, God-endowed individual rights of ALL Americans. Thus those Americans, after 10 years of actual freedom, were sacrificed back to the new enslaving Jim Crow laws of the totally Democratic south, cementing almost another 100 years of repugnant, statist RULE over individual freedom.

Funny, ain't it, that Harry Truman added a big piece to the Deep State, then publicly voiced his full regret for doing so; that even after Ike warned us of the Deep State "complex", and JFK told us of the Deep Forces concretely at work, today exists those who say there is no Deep State at all.

The Deep State is today exactly what it was conceived to be at its birth in 1788 by so many disingenuous Federalists: an all powerful, statisly bureaucratic, collective federal government which CONTROLS/REGULATES virtually every aspect of everyday, individual American life.

Patrick Henry and the Anti-Federalists were right, and all individual liberty-loving Americans are suffering today because they weren't listened to enough back then.

 

[KeithD]

Who is this "DeepState" to whom you refer? How long has the US "deepstate" existed. Who leads it? Who are its members? Real names would be good so that we can weed out this riffraff.

Russia? Headed by Putin? Now having managed to own a U.S. president, the NRA, and assorted Republican members of Congress?

 

[jp55665566]

I was not fully aware of the Family Jewels report. I remember (not very surprising) revelations of CIA bad behavior about a decade ago, but not the name of the report or the details. Thanks for that. I’ll study up.

I do recall the Church Committee, though. The pre-Bush CIA sure was wacky. They invested $ in trying to make Castro’s beard fall out, for crying out loud.

Are you suggesting that the CIA’s interference with journalism in the 1970s, a Cold War effort to combat the perceived influence of Soviet Communism, has morphed into a 21st Century left wing conspiracy against Trump, the Republican Party, and conservative ideals in general?

Seriously?

yes. absolutely. CIA infiltration of MSM was not an effort to combat the influence of Soviet Communism. It was, and is a continuing effort, to control and spin all the news the American public has access to. For example the Incubator Babies fiction, designed to garner public support for invasion of Iraq.

It is admitted, specifically by former Secretary of Defense Robert MacNamara that Vietnam DID NOT attack U.S. ships in the Gulf of Tonkin. << that fake news was used to garner public support for open warfare against Vietnam.

We likewise know that Saddam Hussein DID NOT have weapons of mass destruction, WMD, as faithfully reported by MSM. Nor did Saddam Hussein import yellow-cake uranium from Niger, as similarly reported by the CIA's lapdog media. That fake news was used to garner public support for the second invasion of Iraq and the deposing of their own elected leader.

Not just macro-events are fabricated. Often, every word, every nuance is scripted by NSA/CIA for the sheeple's consumption. I know it's HARD to believe.

Any genuine independent investigative news organization would expose the 9/11 treason. (it wasn't 19 terrorists under direction of Usama Bin Laden). << that lie was used for our current murderous campaign in the Middle East.

It's taken me about 50 years, i'm 70 now, to understand what's really happening with CIA/NSA. Pure, unadulterated evil. Try John Perkins (NSA whistleblower) book: Diary of an Economic Hitman. >>

http://resistir.info/livros/john_perkins_confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man.pdf

These several world-shaking events are relatively small potatoes compared to the awful truth of who we(USA) really are.

 

[jp55665566]

Russia? Headed by Putin? Now having managed to own a U.S. president, the NRA, and assorted Republican members of Congress?

what? How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that the "President, NRA, and assorted members of Congress" are owned by Russia/Putin?

 

[jp55665566]

The American Deep State began the day the previously totally independent States ceded their natural sovereignty to the very concept of the new, collective federal government. Patrick Henry famously foretold that such unAmerican "consolidation" wouldn't last 100 years before revolution naturally erupted against it.

74 years later, America's War of Rebellion commenced. Tyrannically statist Abe then brought Deep State POWER/CONTROL to full unAmerican light, costing around 1 million American lives simply to FORCEFULLY hold a "voluntary" union together.

Before the Civil War, America's postal service offered the greatest presence of federal government throughout the country; after the Civil War, and Lincoln's assassination, Deep State government POWER/CONTROL grew exponentially all over the land, especially in the defeated south. But that statist presence wasn't for the primary benefit of the people the War had helped so much to free, as was evidenced by that statist government barely 10 years after Appomattox when Republicans Grant and Hayes both deemed keeping the POWER of their Deep State consolidated was more important than the natural, God-endowed individual rights of ALL Americans. Thus those Americans, after 10 years of actual freedom, were sacrificed back to the new enslaving Jim Crow laws of the totally Democratic south, cementing almost another 100 years of repugnant, statist RULE over individual freedom.

Funny, ain't it, that Harry Truman added a big piece to the Deep State, then publicly voiced his full regret for doing so; that even after Ike warned us of the Deep State "complex", and JFK told us of the Deep Forces concretely at work, today exists those who say there is no Deep State at all.

The Deep State is today exactly what it was conceived to be at its birth in 1788 by so many disingenuous Federalists: an all powerful, statisly bureaucratic, collective federal government which CONTROLS/REGULATES virtually every aspect of everyday, individual American life.

Patrick Henry and the Anti-Federalists were right, and all individual liberty-loving Americans are suffering today because they weren't listened to enough back then.

wow, dude/ms. thank you.

 

[070276]

the awful truth of who we(USA) really are.

You can only practically speak for your own pathetically collectivist "we(USA)" self.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

You're either willfully blind or just plain stupid.

This has NEVER BEEN AN AMERICAN POLICY.

It was put in place by Trump with no planning, and it was rescinded by Trump after two weeks because of the public outcry. The Admin has been ordered by a judge to stop it and to reunite the families, which they CAN'T DO.

Who the fuck cares how many are split on this issue? What does that have to do with it? Besides, you're fucking wrong. This was NOT a 50/50 issue, more like 90/10 nationally.

Keep spinning and lying. Anything to defend Trump.

What I am saying is that, these or similar policies have been in place for a long time, with the exception of the Obama administration( because he eventually passed a Bill to help immigrants stay in the country ). If you ask the whole country, you'll have a 50/50 split on the issue, give or take. I wish there was a fair way to satisfy everyone, but you can't, you're either for or against it. Democrats and Republicans are guilty of it

 

[KeithD]

You're either willfully blind or just plain stupid.

More likely both. Another spinning alt cycle that quickly went on ignore.

 

[BB10]

https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/l/85/1/10979691356_06cae1835c_o_vbZRVNG.jpg

 

[SoulAssasin247]

You're either willfully blind or just plain stupid.

This has NEVER BEEN AN AMERICAN POLICY.

It was put in place by Trump with no planning, and it was rescinded by Trump after two weeks because of the public outcry. The Admin has been ordered by a judge to stop it and to reunite the families, which they CAN'T DO.

Who the fuck cares how many are split on this issue? What does that have to do with it? Besides, you're fucking wrong. This was NOT a 50/50 issue, more like 90/10 nationally.

Keep spinning and lying. Anything to defend Trump.

No I am just making fun of you lying, hypocritical, self righteous liberals. I was hoping for Bernie Sanders to be President and let's face it Hilary is a horrible candidate. I am actually in favor of more choices ( meaning legitimate Political Parties having a chance to win, instead of the Political Monopoly we have today ). The more legitimate choices we have, the more the government will cater to the people.

 

[jp55665566]

the other "treasonous" President

https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/l/85/1/10979691356_06cae1835c_o_vbZRVNG.jpg

by the way... anyone know who murdered this man?

 

[Oblimo]

yes. absolutely. CIA infiltration of MSM was not an effort to combat the influence of Soviet Communism. It was, and is a continuing effort, to control and spin all the news the American public has access to.

Okay. Let’s assume you are right.

Why is the CIA manipulating the MSM against Trump and the GOP instead of for them? The CIA-controlled MSM supported the Bush Admin’s call to invade Iraq, right? And the other examples you cite all seem to be actions in support of the political party that was in charge at the time, the GOP.

Why is the CIA now pushing a leftist agenda in opposition to Trump and the GOP?

 

[jomar]

Whoa. "Housing discrimination against blacks". My my my. Maybe it was a content of character issue?
More of Trump's "documented history of racism", please. It's not true.

The legal processes around discrimination complaints are often resolved by fines, without any adjudication of the case particulars.

The attempt to divide U.S. citizens into skin color groups is a tactic of DeepState puppet-masters, don't fall for it.

LOL, you are sort of like Box, RightGuide and Coach all rolled into one but posts the utter nonsense more pleasantly and articulately.

 

[jp55665566]

Okay. Let’s assume you are right.

Why is the CIA manipulating the MSM against Trump and the GOP instead of for them? The CIA-controlled MSM supported the Bush Admin’s call to invade Iraq, right? And the other examples you cite all seem to be actions in support of the political party that was in charge at the time, the GOP.

Why is the CIA now pushing a leftist agenda in opposition to Trump and the GOP?

[/QUOTE]

Left/Right Republican/Democrat is a good cop/bad cop routine. There is an "inside game" that has nothing to do with any particular political party. DeepState doesn't like Trump specifically because he is not part of the game. They will crush him, probably through assassination. Many deluded American citizens will be overjoyed.

 

[jp55665566]

LOL, you are sort of like Box, RightGuide and Coach all rolled into one but posts the utter nonsense more pleasantly and articulately.

Which "utter nonsense" are you referring to?

 

[Sean]

Jesus.