Re-writing history

[JasonClearwater]

Anyone here a fan of alternative history, or re-writing historic events into their stories?

I was watching an SNL skit about Lews & Clark that implied Clark was gay (and had a thing for Lewis), and added in some details that [were quite hot, if I'm honest], and wondered if anyone here had written anything like that.

 

[lovecraft68]

Anyone here a fan of alternative history, or re-writing historic events into their stories?

I was watching an SNL skit about Lews & Clark that implied Clark was gay (and had a thing for Lewis), and added in some details that [were quite hot, if I'm honest], and wondered if anyone here had written anything like that.

I have some bits and pieces of a rewriting of the Salem witch trials where the Puritan scum are actually the ones put on trial by a coven of witches and get what they deserve.

 

[BiscuitHammer]

Specifically to this...

My story The Great Khan is an alternate history for the Mongols around the time of Genghis Khan, with Boldbator serving as the ambitions for the unification of the tribes.

I have an alternate history story about the Three Kingdoms period of China on another site, concerning Sun Ce and his quest to unite the Middle Kingdom.

I don't mind alternate history stories, since they're theoretical. What I HATE, though, is alternate stories about established fiction. Par example, I cannot stand the concept of the book 'Wicked', which turns everything about L. Frank Baum's classic on its ear.

Quirky, I know. I'm okay with it.

 

[ChloeTzang]

My story The Great Khan is an alternate history for the Mongols around the time of Genghis Khan, with Boldbator serving as the ambitions for the unification of the tribes.

I have an alternate history story about the Three Kingdoms period of China on another site, concerning Sun Ce and his quest to unite the Middle Kingdom.

I don't mind alternate history stories, since they're theoretical. What I HATE, though, is alternate stories about established fiction. Par example, I cannot stand the concept of the book 'Wicked', which turns everything about L. Frank Baum's classic on its ear.

Quirky, I know. I'm okay with it.

I enjoy the Flashman books though. Someone here on AH put me on to them and I love them.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I don't mind alternate history stories, since they're theoretical. What I HATE, though, is alternate stories about established fiction. Par example, I cannot stand the concept of the book 'Wicked', which turns everything about L. Frank Baum's classic on its ear.

Quirky, I know. I'm okay with it.

Remind me to say, "don't read this, then," when I finally get around to posting my stupid big WIP, which takes a well known myth cycle and tells it EB style.

That way, you won't HATE the story from the first word. You won't get to see Clearwater's stable boy cameo though, nor an enticing group of witches.

Your loss. Talk to the hand .

 

[49greg]

I enjoy the Flashman books though. Someone here on AH put me on to them and I love them.

I loved the old Flashman books too, I remember I got the first one back in College in the late 60s/early70s. I've also found a new series about his 'uncle' set in the napoleonic era. Different author, but done very well in the same style.

As for Alternate History, I like reading it, but never, so far, tried to write any. Might ought to try.

 

[NotWise]

Anyone here a fan of alternative history, or re-writing historic events into their stories?

How about rewriting history the way British propaganda wanted it? Catherine the Great really did have a thing for horses.

Oh wait. That can be history, but it can't go in Lit.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I loved the old Flashman books too, I remember I got the first one back in College in the late 60s/early70s. I've also found a new series about his 'uncle' set in the napoleonic era. Different author, but done very well in the same style.

As for Alternate History, I like reading it, but never, so far, tried to write any. Might ought to try.

Try Steve Stirling's Draka series for a totally dystopian alternative history. My Dad has them and the first time I read them I was just blown away. They're grim and really really good. Marching Through Georgia is the first in the series. If you like Flashman, try "The Peshawar Lancers" also by Stirling. You'll see the similarities.

 

[sr71plt]

Maybe more looking behind known history:

My GM story “Puttin’ on the Ritz” (https://www.literotica.com/s/puttin-on-the-ritz) has several writers, by other names, who lived at the Ritz Hotel in Paris before and during World War II doing/being what they were rumored to do/be. It has Hermann Göring, by name, being gay and a crossdresser, both rumored at the time, at the Ritz at a time he actually was at the Ritz (and snarfing up French artwork to ship out to Germany).

My epic (in sweep of history covered) bi novel, “Wolf Creek” (https://www.literotica.com/s/wolf-creek-ch-01) and its GM companion short story “The Photograph,” giving an alternate history ending to an unacknowledged, but, I believe, true, story (https://www.literotica.com/s/the-photograph-ch-01), with protagonists who were real people with connections to celebrities in stories that push known a bit (sometimes more than a bit), have a whole slew of historical characters depicted by other names and given stories close to what came from the protagonist’s diary. Included are such as Edison, Ford, Hemingway, Dashiell Hammett, Lillian Hellman, and Anne Morrow Lindbergh. Some of these characters have lifestyles and activities in the protagonist’s diary—and thus in “Wolf Creek” and “The Photograph”—not in the public purview, so the history associated with them is an alternative view.

“The Lighthouse Keeper” (https://www.literotica.com/s/the-lighthouse-keeper-2) puts an extended, alternate history, ending on a real Rock Hudson GM story.

“Prince’s Choice” (https://www.literotica.com/s/princes-choice) is a jazzed up version of a real (then) prince (and now king) and his real GM appetites rumored but not acknowledged in public. It’s not so much alternate history as an amalgam and enhancement of experienced events.

The two-part bi story “The Golden Triangle” (https://www.literotica.com/s/the-golden-triangle-ch-01) is part jazzed up version of the real spinning into an alternative history of an intelligence operation.

“Solicitous Service” (https://www.literotica.com/s/solicitous-service) provides an alternative history treatment to the end of an acquaintance’s relationship with a real congressmen.

The 2016 April Fools' Day contest second place winner, "All Fools' Day Foolery" (https://www.literotica.com/s/all-fools-day-foolery) is an alternate history story on the mysterious death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

So, yes, I like to take real people and real events and play around with them in a story (and the fun part is that sometimes a reader questions the credibility of precisely the part of the story that was real. ).

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I have never written anything that has already happened and changed it. I have written quite a few different future histories.

I have also written about someone coming back in time and changing one insignificant event to put history back on track. Does that count?

 

[Hypoxia]

I guess all my what-if? stories are alt.history.

 

[JasonClearwater]

I have some bits and pieces of a rewriting of the Salem witch trials where the Puritan scum are actually the ones put on trial by a coven of witches and get what they deserve.

Knowing what you're capable of, this must be hilarious.

My story The Great Khan is an alternate history for the Mongols around the time of Genghis Khan, with Boldbator serving as the ambitions for the unification of the tribes.

Boldbator!

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I enjoy the Flashman books though. Someone here on AH put me on to them and I love them.

I know nothing of these.

Remind me to say, "don't read this, then," when I finally get around to posting my stupid big WIP, which takes a well known myth cycle and tells it EB style.

That way, you won't HATE the story from the first word. You won't get to see Clearwater's stable boy cameo though, nor an enticing group of witches.

Your loss. Talk to the hand .

'Lancilet and the King' is going to be one of the highest grossing alternative histories of all time. I guarantee it.

How about rewriting history the way British propaganda wanted it? Catherine the Great really did have a thing for horses.

Oh wait. That can be history, but it can't go in Lit.

Catherine the Great and my little brother Jesse have a lot in common then.

*stage wink at EB*

So, yes, I like to take real people and real events and play around with them in a story (and the fun part is that sometimes a reader questions the credibility of precisely the part of the story that was real. ).

I need to check some of those out. Not that I know literally anything about the actual events at this point in time to start with.

I have never written anything that has already happened and changed it. I have written quite a few different future histories.

I have also written about someone coming back in time and changing one insignificant event to put history back on track. Does that count?

Were there robots?

 

[BiscuitHammer]

Remind me to say, "don't read this, then," when I finally get around to posting my stupid big WIP, which takes a well known myth cycle and tells it EB style.

That way, you won't HATE the story from the first word. You won't get to see Clearwater's stable boy cameo though, nor an enticing group of witches.

Your loss. Talk to the hand .

Oh, now, don't be like that. Sheesh. I love me some mythology.

 

[BiscuitHammer]

And to be honest, since I have a time travel story on here, I enjoy seeing what other people do with history. My premise is that history cannot be changed (You cannot travel back in time and kill your grandfather before he has your father so that you're never born, SOMETHING will stop you), history can be at best underwritten or sub-texted to an eventual end in one's own time.

I enjoy seeing alt-histories, or alt-U stuff (given the show I work on, I'd bloody-well better). I just have a hard time when people take someone else's established fiction and change it (except for humour, I'll always take humour). Make me laugh my butt off and it's all good.

 

[Handley_Page]

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[Handley_Page]

Anyone here a fan of alternative history, or re-writing historic events into their stories?

I was watching an SNL skit about Lews & Clark that implied Clark was gay (and had a thing for Lewis), and added in some details that [were quite hot, if I'm honest], and wondered if anyone here had written anything like that.

History re-write ?
I thought that's what revisionists did all the time, publishing in 'social media' and so on.

PS. Erm, SNL ?

 

[JasonClearwater]

History re-write ?
I thought that's what revisionists did all the time, publishing in 'social media' and so on.

PS. Erm, SNL ?

I just go where YouTube takes me, mate.

Edit: SNL = Saturday Night Live.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Anyone here a fan of alternative history, or re-writing historic events into their stories?

I was watching an SNL skit about Lews & Clark that implied Clark was gay (and had a thing for Lewis), and added in some details that [were quite hot, if I'm honest], and wondered if anyone here had written anything like that.

I love a good alt-history, but writing that kind of thing requires more depth of historical knowledge than I have.

A few (mostly non-sexy) that I've enjoyed:

Sarah Gailey's "A River of Teeth": based on a RL scheme to farm hippos in the USA, this is set in a world where it happened and the Mississippi was overrun with feral hippos. I'm about to start on the sequel, "Taste of Marrow".

Kim Newman and Eugene Byrne, "Back in the USSA": book of short stories in a world where the revolution of 1917 happened in America instead of Russia. Al Capone becomes a Stalin-like figure, and Ed Gein becomes a Hero of the Workers for his services to the meat industry...

"Kelly Country" (I forget the author): an Australian one where the bushranger Ned Kelly is victorious at Glenrowan and goes on to lead a revolt against British rule.

 

[Kantarii]

The thought of rewriting the Woodstock era of “feee love” and the hippie movement and shifting it to the time of the Gulf War was an interesting idea of mine at one time.
Kant

 

[Handley_Page]

Re: Flashman

I know nothing of these.

I commend the works of George McDonald Frazer

 

[Zeb_Carter]

...

Were there robots?

No. Sorry. I do have Androids in my Warrior One series. But that's in the future.

 

[Blind_Justice]

Parts of an (as of yet) unpublished fantasy novel I'm working off and on takes place during the last 300-odd years, from the 1740's all through to the modern day. Since most people can't see "fantasy" races like Orcs and Dark Elves, they obviously didn't factor in during the witch trials or the French Revolution or the Victorian Age, but I'm pretty sure they were there. After all, one of those dark elves whispered her secrets to me...

 

[jehoram]

David Harris wrote a book called (IIRC) Fatherland about a guy solving a crime in post WW2 Berlin, in a timeline where Germany won the war. I always thought that was kind of clever.

 

[Bramblethorn]

David Harris wrote a book called (IIRC) Fatherland about a guy solving a crime in post WW2 Berlin, in a timeline where Germany won the war. I always thought that was kind of clever.

Robert Harris. Yeah, that's a good one, but grim.

 

[xelliebabex]

Anyone here a fan of alternative history, or re-writing historic events into their stories?

I was watching an SNL skit about Lews & Clark that implied Clark was gay (and had a thing for Lewis), and added in some details that [were quite hot, if I'm honest], and wondered if anyone here had written anything like that.

I ham a huge fan of sci-fantasy and David Gemmel has the basis of some of his better books in real history and then twists it majorly. His last series, finished by his wife Leigh recounts the events of Troy.
The Lion of Macedon Series is Alexander the great starting from his boyhood and moving on. Raven heart series is a Roman invasion of Britain history focusing on the Scottish people, I could go on. Well worth the read if people are into history with a fantasy twist. Not so much erotic but nor for the faint heart either.