Las Vegas shooting

I'm trying real hard not to say "fuck you."

And.......no, I don't think I am going to make it.

Fuck you.

Principled folk who support the law do NOT "enable" mass murders. Not in any way, shape or form.

The right to own a personal firearm is PROTECTED by LAW.

The commission of assault and murder is PROHIBITED by LAW.

Principled folk who embrace both the protection and the prohibition are hardly guilty of assuming an inherently contradictory position. For that matter, principled folk also fully support the right of folks like you, also presumably principled, to change the law to whatever construct you may desire as long as you obtain the sufficient legislative majority to do so and do so lawfully.

Despite making the dumbest fucking statement I believe I have had the misfortune to hear in quite some time.


Colonel Hogan, I laughed so hard reading your reply. I know you didn't intend it to be funny but it was man, it was.
 
We Didn't Know

Words and Music by Tom Paxton (1965)

We didn't know said the Burgomeister,
About the camps on the edge of town.
It was Hitler and his crew,
That tore the German nation down.
We saw the cattle cars it's true,
And maybe they carried a Jew or two.
They woke us up as they rattled through,
But what did you expect me to do?

[Cho:]
We didn't know at all,
We didn't see a thing.
You can't hold us to blame,
What could we do?
It was a terrible shame,
But we can't bear the blame.
Oh no, not us, we didn't know.

We didn't know said the congregation,
Singing a hymn in a church of white.
The Press was full lf lies about us,
Preacher told us we were right.
The outside agitators came.
They burned some churches and put the blame,
On decent southern people's names,
To set our colored people aflame.
And maybe some of our boys got hot,
And a couple of niggers and reds got shot,
They should have stayed where they belong,
And preacher would've told us if we'd done wrong.

[Cho:]

We didn't know said the puzzled voter,
Watching the President on TV.
I guess we've got to drop those bombs,
If we're gonna keep South Asia free.
The President's such a peaceful man,
I guess he's got some kind of plan.
They say we're torturing prisoners of war,
But I don't believe that stuff no more.
Torturing prisoners is a communist game,
And You can bet they're doing the same.
I wish this war was over and through,
But what do you expect me to do?

[Cho:]
 
We Didn't Know

Words and Music by Tom Paxton (1965)

We didn't know said the Burgomeister,
About the camps on the edge of town.
It was Hitler and his crew,
That tore the German nation down.
We saw the cattle cars it's true,
And maybe they carried a Jew or two.
They woke us up as they rattled through,
But what did you expect me to do?

[Cho:]
We didn't know at all,
We didn't see a thing.
You can't hold us to blame,
What could we do?
It was a terrible shame,
But we can't bear the blame.
Oh no, not us, we didn't know.

We didn't know said the congregation,
Singing a hymn in a church of white.
The Press was full lf lies about us,
Preacher told us we were right.
The outside agitators came.
They burned some churches and put the blame,
On decent southern people's names,
To set our colored people aflame.
And maybe some of our boys got hot,
And a couple of niggers and reds got shot,
They should have stayed where they belong,
And preacher would've told us if we'd done wrong.

[Cho:]

We didn't know said the puzzled voter,
Watching the President on TV.
I guess we've got to drop those bombs,
If we're gonna keep South Asia free.
The President's such a peaceful man,
I guess he's got some kind of plan.
They say we're torturing prisoners of war,
But I don't believe that stuff no more.
Torturing prisoners is a communist game,
And You can bet they're doing the same.
I wish this war was over and through,
But what do you expect me to do?

[Cho:]

In the case of the United States and with respect to the false equivalency to Nazi genocide, I expect you to pull your head out of your ass and stop holding an entire government responsible for acts of violence that are already prohibited by law, which, just by the way, are also falsely compared to government policies and actions that were either specifically legal or, in the case of enhanced interrogations, merely questionably so.

There is nothing questionable about the illegality of murder as codified by law.

Nor is there anything remotely supportable by your vile accusation that people who support the law, "empower, enable, own, perpetuate, or love" the mass slaughter of innocents prohibited by it.

It is such a monstrously obscene accusation that it compels me to say once again: FUCK YOU!!
 
They don't empower it, they just have to live with it.

At least the survivors do.
 
Those who acquiesce to evil, empower evil.
Those who accept mass murder, support mass murder.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
--Edmund Burke

Excuses can be made.

"I didn't do it!" No, but you allowed it.
"But it's legal!" Doesn't mean it is right.
"We can't change it!" Not if you don't try.

Amerikkka is set in its way. We'll see no meaningful firearms controls; they've become impossible. We'll see more massacres; they've become inevitable. We'll hear much wailing, whining, accusations, excuses, yada yada. It boils down to: We let it happen. We won't stop it.
 
They don't empower it, they just have to live with it.

At least the survivors do.

No argument there.

But "living with it" is not equivalent to "it's acceptable." If it was acceptable it wouldn't be against the law.

"Living with it" more correctly means "beyond reasonable (or even unreasonable), practical means to eradicate it."
 
We now have more than a few people in Congress with direct experience of gun violence, which ought to sway their opinions on gun regulation.

But then, we have a number who have found abortions to be necessary but still vote against them.
 
But what is the goal? Corporations can't donate to a political cause? Individuals can only donate $x amount? Can't the corporation (which is after all just a group of people) just run its own ads? Or are they prohibited from commenting at all in politics? Wouldn't an extremely wealthy candidate just be able to spend his/her own money and bury a candidate of moderate means because the poor candidate can't raise much money? I don't like candidates or politicians pandering to big donors either, but it just seems that every solution proposed most likely will make the problem worse.

Class is out of session. Did you read the link? Read up on citizens united vs FEC.
 
New ISIS Infographic on Vegas Shooting Claims Paddock Converted Six Months Ago

The Islamic State continued insisting that they have a connection to Sunday night's massacre in Las Vegas with the publication of an infographic about the crime filling the second page of their 16-page weekly newsletter...

The newsletter used the nom de guerre that ISIS bestowed up Paddock earlier in the week: "Abu Abdul Barr al-Amriki" -- the American.

ISIS claimed through their Amaq news agency Monday morning that the "Las Vegas attacker is a soldier of the Islamic State who carried out the attack in response to calls for targeting coalition countries." They claimed he had converted to Islam recently.

In the new al-Naba issue, the terror group claims Stephen Paddock converted to Islam six months ago. ISIS persisted in its full-court press effort to claim responsibility for the attack after the Amaq news agency claim with their official Nashir channel and affiliated al-Batar Media Foundation all insisting Paddock acted on behalf of the terror group.

"The brother Abu Abdul Barr stationed himself for the invasion on the 32nd floor of a hotel overlooking a concert, and opened fire continuously on the crowds using 23 guns and more than 2,000 rounds, and died, may Allah accept him, after exhausting his ammunition," al-Naba states.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...ting-claims-paddock-converted-six-months-ago/
 
Let's be clear. If you belong to NRA, if you support public use of personal firearms, you own this crime. You are an un-indicted co-conspirator in all mass shootings.

"Oh no," you say, "it's not me, I didn't pull the trigger." No, but you enabled it. You were not born a weapons addict -- you converted. Just as a religious converso buys-into the crimes of their faith, so gun-worshipers bear onus to mass shootings. You make the slaughter possible. Smell the powder.

Blah blah, blah.

Such a fucking broken record Pox.

Will you not call upon me to come to your sorry ass camp when the weirdos and freaks come in?

Or are you going to to wait a half hour or an hour for the cops to show up?

Or perhaps you feel more comfortable in the states that are afraid of guns. Hmmm.

Or you can be in a free state. With people that have training, know how to use the guns and are not afraid of their own shadows.

When the shit hits the fan, let's see where the sheeple gravitate towards.
 
NRA members. 2nd amendment enthusiasts. Listen up:
You own the slaughters. You perpetuate slaughters. You love slaughters.
And you'll enable yet more slaughters. And more.
You get to deal with your consciences.
Sleep tight.

What a fucking lunatic LOL

I sleep like a fuckin' champ.
 
What a fucking lunatic LOL

I sleep like a fuckin' champ.

I am sleeping well.

She / he knows better. Lived in AZ for a little bit.

The lefties know, if shit hits the fan.... Barry, Hill / Billary, Chuck, Maxine or the disgusting ilk can't save their asses. Phro Dough and all will be making their way to our camps. Looking for food, comfort and human interaction.

The leftist food is pretty bleak.

Nutrition and common sense are survival.

The question at this point is, should Addy be allowed to enter?

I say.....
 
I am sleeping well.

She / he knows better. Lived in AZ for a little bit.

The lefties know, if shit hits the fan.... Barry, Hill / Billary, Chuck, Maxine or the disgusting ilk can't save their asses. Phro Dough and all will be making their way to our camps. Looking for food, comfort and human interaction.

The leftist food is pretty bleak.

Nutrition and common sense are survival.

The question at this point is, should Addy be allowed to enter?

I say.....

I say a big fucking NO!

Lol.
 
For you Colonel

Here sighs and lamentations and loud cries
were echoing across the starless air,
so that, as soon as I [Dante] set out, I wept.

Strange utterances, horrible pronouncements,
accents of anger, words of suffering,
and voice shrill and faints, and beating hands -

All went to make a tumult that will whirl
forever through that turbid, timeless air,
like sand that eddies when a whirlwind swirls.

And I - my head oppressed by horror - said:
"Master [Virgil], what is it that I hear? Who are
those people so defeated by their pain?"

And he to me: "This miserable way
is taken by the sorry souls of those
who lived without disgrace and without praise.

They now commingle with the coward angels,
the company of those who were not rebels
nor faithful to their God, but stood apart.

The heavens, that their beauty not be lessened,
have cast them out, nor will deep Hell receive them -
even the wicked cannot glory in them."

And I: "What is it, master, that oppresses
these souls, compelling them to wail so loud?"
He answered: "I shall tell you in few words.

Those who are here can place no hope in death,
and their blind life is so abject that they
are envious of every other fate.

The world will let no fame of theirs endure;
both justice and compassion must disdain them;
let us not talk of them, but look and pass."

And I, looking more closely, saw a banner
that, as it wheeled about, raced on - so quick
that any respite seemed unsuited to it.

Behind that banner trailed so long a file
of people - I should never have believed
that death could have unmade so many souls.

After I had identified a few,
I saw and recognized the shade of him
who made, through cowardice, the great refusal.

At once I understood with certainty:
this company constrained the cowardly,
hateful to God and to His enemies.

These wretched ones, who never were alive,
went naked and were stung again, again
by horseflies and by wasps that circled them.

The insects streaked their faces with their blood,
which, mingled with their tears, fell at their feet,
where it was gathered up by sickening worms.
 
Principles trump pragmatism.
The right to possess personal firearms trumps public safety.
But guess what? Principled folk empower and enable mass murderers.
Excuses are easy. "Oh no, I didn't send trains to death camps!"
Of course you didn't. You merely paid for the fuel.

NRA members. 2nd amendment enthusiasts. Listen up:
You own the slaughters. You perpetuate slaughters. You love slaughters.
And you'll enable yet more slaughters. And more.
You get to deal with your consciences.
Sleep tight.

Hypoxia is an oxygen deficiency. No doubt due in your case to finally slipping beneath the surface of that huge puddle of leftwing shit you've been up to your chin in most of your miserable life. Go ahead try and take one last breath.:rolleyes:
 
Tell me how Chicago is doing today Em. Day to day, year to date. Anything you choose. DC? Rahm and the Bros got that sheet unda control right? With all that gun control right?

chicago is a poor city in america. australia is a country and a continent on the opposite of the world.
 
chicago is a poor city in america. australia is a country and a continent on the opposite of the world.

Well not to split hairs, but Chicago is anything but cheap, sure certain parts are called Chiraq for a reason, then there's other parts that it'll cost you about $750,000 for a .10 acre lot with a 1500 sq ft ranch... that needs fixing up..
 
Well not to split hairs, but Chicago is anything but cheap, sure certain parts are called Chiraq for a reason, then there's other parts that it'll cost you about $750,000 for a .10 acre lot with a 1500 sq ft ranch... that needs fixing up..

do you think he was talking about any other part of chicago than chiraq?
 
Blah blah, blah.

When the shit hits the fan, let's see where the sheeple gravitate towards.

Some of the gun nuts religiously subscribe to their self-fulfilling prophesy about the total disintegration of society. They are working actively to make this happen, while harboring the illusion that they will be largely immune to the impacts of their holy apocalypse, because of their personal arsenals.
 
Some of the gun nuts religiously subscribe to their self-fulfilling prophesy about the total disintegration of society. They are working actively to make this happen, while harboring the illusion that they will be largely immune to the impacts of their holy apocalypse, because of their personal arsenals.

This post speaks to me, and requires this

https://youtu.be/xOrgLj9lOwk
 
If Indiana banned gun sales to non-residents, gun crime in Chicago would plummet. The only reason that doesn't happen is because the NRA lobbies and invests heavily in Indiana's state house.
 
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