My Theory Linking Discrimination and Segregation

[Adder4321]

A little while ago, I realised that every racist/sexist/discriminating person had one thing in common: They all were segregated from and had very little to do with the group that they hated. So I think that the less a person has to do with a particular group, the easier it is for that person to have prejudices against that group. I think that this is because not interacting with a group makes it easier to judge them and see them collectively, rather than as individuals. In other words, it makes it easier to see them as inhuman.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

 

[MGurkus]

We already have a hashtag, thanks for trying.

 

[Boxlicker101]

A little while ago, I realised that every racist/sexist/discriminating person had one thing in common: They all were segregated from and had very little to do with the group that they hated. So I think that the less a person has to do with a particular group, the easier it is for that person to have prejudices against that group. I think that this is because not interacting with a group makes it easier to judge them and see them collectively, rather than as individuals. In other words, it makes it easier to see them as inhuman.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

That probably would apply sometimes, but not always. For instance, a white youth in reform school would mostly associate with black youths, and they would frequently use their numerical superiority to abuse him. As a result, he would probably develop strongly negative opinions on black people in general.

Southern Democrats earned long ago that, if they were able to foment animosity between black and white members of the lower classes, they would be able to stay in power. In this case, the two groups, blacks and whites should be natural allies, but outside influences would keep this from happening.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I grew up in area that had 2 black guys in high school and 1 Asian girl. Disgusting to how many times I heard chink and n***** from certain a-holes. They had only ever seen these 3 examples and never interacted with them. All at the young age of 14-16. Couldn't even get American television back then to see a black person.

Learned behaviour from parents?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

That probably would apply sometimes, but not always. For instance, a white youth in reform school would mostly associate with black youths, and they would frequently use their numerical superiority to abuse him.

Whole lotsa wrongness in that drunk text highlighted above, but I'll just see if someone else can suss it out before this thread sinks to its eventual doom at the river bottom.

As a result, he would probably develop strongly negative opinions on back people in general.

What's so wrong with being a "back" person? Why do the front people get all the love?

Wait, now that I think about it, as much as I prefer fronts, sometimes backs do look quite attractive:

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I like them with freckles best.

 

[Adder4321]

I grew up in area that had 2 black guys in high school and 1 Asian girl. Disgusting to how many times I heard chink and n***** from certain a-holes. They had only ever seen these 3 examples and never interacted with them. All at the young age of 14-16. Couldn't even get American television back then to see a black person.

Learned behaviour from parents?

A lot of it is learned behaviour. I'm just basing this assumption on my life experience. I grew up in a very multicultural, small town with pretty much every ethnicity you could imagine living right next door to each other. I met a lot of people who were recovering racists. And almost every one of them had the same story; They had grown up, their parents refused to let them near people with different skin colours, telling them that they were all thugs and criminals. So they continued to hate them simply because they were taught that they were in the right. Eventually they ended up in the town I lived in and because they didn't have any choice but to interact with other ethnicities, they realised that they were wrong and changed.

 

[MelissaBaby]

A little while ago, I realised that every racist/sexist/discriminating person had one thing in common: They all were segregated from and had very little to do with the group that they hated. So I think that the less a person has to do with a particular group, the easier it is for that person to have prejudices against that group. I think that this is because not interacting with a group makes it easier to judge them and see them collectively, rather than as individuals. In other words, it makes it easier to see them as inhuman.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

There is more to it than that. Where I grew up there were no black people. But we saw black people in the media all the time, both on the news and in entertainment. and they were usually presented as criminals or comedic figures. The only positive images were of a few athletes or entertainers. So, it isn't just a passive thing. Ignorance can be easily corrected, but the negative conditioning is more deeply embedded.

 

[Lancecastor]

That's a nice theory, but familiarity also breeds contempt.

Take zumi, for example...the more I know about him, the less I like him.

Not because he's black or fat or balding or a booze hound or a homo.

I am discriminating by nature. In my case, I tend to seek quality and value in all things, friends included.

So, if I discriminate against zumi (or anyone else) it will be based upon that person's failure to meet my needs.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Dollie

I'm not going to comment much. I was raised on a small old farm in Minnesota. Our family went to a one room school with only white kids and white teachers. I can't remember ever seeing people of any color until we moved to Illinois.
Even there everyone was white at schools and around town.
I met my boyfriend who looks white to me. The new school I went to then was all white. I may have seen a few black people in town but can't remember.
My husband worked at a large factory and many were black. He was friends with brown, black, and white men and women.
We would ride in his car to the big city across the river. One large section seemed to be filled with black people. We talked to black kids and adults. We even met some of his black friends at their home or ours. Sometimes we went to an all white bar and those black couples were nervous. When we were in black businesses and neighborhoods we got nervous.
Yet to us color of any kind never has mattered. We were raised white yet we didn't understand this discrimination.
We adopted our grandson and moved to an area mixed with many races. Our son grew up with friends of all colors. His boss at the motorcycle shop was black and our son liked his boss' family.
We saw blacks and whites fight and call names.
We saw the nearby "black hanging tree" in the next town. We lived near Rosewood where a famous movie was made and met some of the few black famlies left there.
As far as we could tell everyone we've met of any color are human beings just trying to exist. Sure there are good and bad, color has nothing to do with that.

We still don't understand why everyone can't live in piece.

 

[FGB]

A little while ago, I realised that every racist/sexist/discriminating person had one thing in common: They all were segregated from and had very little to do with the group that they hated. So I think that the less a person has to do with a particular group, the easier it is for that person to have prejudices against that group. I think that this is because not interacting with a group makes it easier to judge them and see them collectively, rather than as individuals. In other words, it makes it easier to see them as inhuman.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

I think you have a whole lot to learn about people and the way they tend to be.

Take any group...doesn't matter what color,religion or class they are.

Mix groups and you will have individuals that find something wrong with a member or members of another group.

Separate them and they will find something wrong with some members of their own group.

The problem is inside of humans. It is spiritual and is not likely to fixed by our own efforts.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Denny

I sold my old Harley to a good friend before we moved to Florida. Mostly to Ernie because I knew he'd take care of it. Ernie is or was as black as that old panhead bike.
He came down to my house to pick up the Harley. Ernie was scared shitless. He'd never been off the main highway of "Whitie City".
One of the first things Ernie saw was our neighbor's yard. An old van, a truck up on blocks with no wheels, an old ugly style school bus painted black with the name of a rock band on the sides, two little kids barefoot and in diapers. Typical rednecks in the midwest. Back then we didn't call them rednecks.
Ernie looked a that yard and said something that shocked me. Ernie didn't speak like this at work.
"Looks like ya got a bunch of Niggers next door Denny!"

No, I told Ernie, that's "white trash."

There was more but let's jump up a few weeks later when my wife and I were invited to Ernie's for an appreciation thank you dinner.

Coincidentally Ernie also lived on a cul-de-sac in the big city. Nice clean neighbor hood, well trimmed lawn, and everything clean.......... Except that one house down near the end. Pretty much the same scenerio as the white trash Smith's next door to us, except they were black.
Old Ernie had a way with words. "See Denny, we got Niggers in our neighbor hood too."

We hadn't met Ernie's wife till then. "Ernie get in here and hush."
As were were introduced, ate, drank, and talked Ernie told me something I've remembered over 20 some years.

Many neighborhoods have that one family that makes all the neighborhood look bad. You got your "white trash" and we got those Niggers." Ain't no diffferent, just differnet names for different colors. They all ruin the neighborhood and give us all a bad name!

 

[FGB]

I sold my old Harley to a good friend before we moved to Florida. Mostly to Ernie because I knew he'd take care of it. Ernie is or was as black as that old panhead bike.
He came down to my house to pick up the Harley. Ernie was scared shitless. He'd never been off the main highway of "Whitie City".
One of the first things Ernie saw was our neighbor's yard. An old van, a truck up on blocks with no wheels, an old ugly style school bus painted black with the name of a rock band on the sides, two little kids barefoot and in diapers. Typical rednecks in the midwest. Back then we didn't call them rednecks.
Ernie looked a that yard and said something that shocked me. Ernie didn't speak like this at work.
"Looks like ya got a bunch of Niggers next door Denny!"

No, I told Ernie, that's "white trash."

There was more but let's jump up a few weeks later when my wife and I were invited to Ernie's for an appreciation thank you dinner.

Coincidentally Ernie also lived on a cul-de-sac in the big city. Nice clean neighbor hood, well trimmed lawn, and everything clean.......... Except that one house down near the end. Pretty much the same scenerio as the white trash Smith's next door to us, except they were black.
Old Ernie had a way with words. "See Denny, we got Niggers in our neighbor hood too."

We hadn't met Ernie's wife till then. "Ernie get in here and hush."
As were were introduced, ate, drank, and talked Ernie told me something I've remembered over 20 some years.

Many neighborhoods have that one family that makes all the neighborhood look bad. You got your "white trash" and we got those Niggers." Ain't no diffferent, just differnet names for different colors. They all ruin the neighborhood and give us all a bad name!

Yeah.

I dislike some people because I come to know their ways and they are not mine nor could I abide them.

Good upstanding people have a tendency to loose their color and religion as we get to know them.

 

[hsnh]

Oh, the memories… .

This thread reminded me of my first months on Lit., when Sean was Tourettes trolling me ("you racist retard"), over some nonsense.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

That's a nice theory, but familiarity also breeds contempt.

Take zumi, for example...the more I know about him, the less I like him.

Not because he's black or fat or balding or a booze hound or a homo.

I am discriminating by nature. In my case, I tend to seek quality and value in all things, friends included.

So, if I discriminate against zumi (or anyone else) it will be based upon that person's failure to meet my needs.

This is how the similarities amongst disparate peoples can surprisingly sync up, because I feel the qwhite the same way about the above sixty-something barely legal-leering creepo.

You can tell a lot about a man's insecurities by how he projects his skipping-record also-ran insults towards his betters. In this case, we can surmise he hasn't seen a pair of swimming trunks below a 50 waist since freshman year in college, has hair care products for pompadour wigs stacked against his bathroom mirror like a pyramid to wage war against his genetically expanding solar panel and a secret subscription to Uncut Magazine filled with the bodies he wished he had feeding the flow of masturbation material tucked under the bed.

Has little to do with his being a white male prick, but it does enable a certain sort of privilege specifically endemic to assholes of his ilk. Luckily for him, the James Gandolfini avatar he's currently rocking as a cipher for his manhood covers all the bases on those said insecurities, since that guy actually lived that high life with the same physical attributes PLUS having a drug monkey on the back, while this nameless and fame-less schmuck is stuck online popping blood vessels in frustration with the other aging impotent lifers every time Laurel creates a GB sub-forum.

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But that's not actual discrimination against this type of person, it's just simply not caring to commiserate with empty shitstains who do nothing for me. They exist for something, though. I mean, even flies have their function in this world, as per God's creations.

 

[Hypoxia]

My mountain hamlet is nestled in some of California's smaller, whiter counties. Very little black or Latino trash up here, and no Asian trash. Some Native American trash but not bad. And lots and lots of redneck white trash. Immense fatties. Crackhead teeth. Places where ambulance and fire crews refuse to go without police escort.

Civilization is creeping up into the foothills from the Sacramento Valley as home prices explode down there. Suburbanization sprawls uphill... to be followed by gangs, but they ain't here yet. What will multicultural trash look like here in a couple decades?

 

[Comshaw]

A little while ago, I realised that every racist/sexist/discriminating person had one thing in common: They all were segregated from and had very little to do with the group that they hated. So I think that the less a person has to do with a particular group, the easier it is for that person to have prejudices against that group. I think that this is because not interacting with a group makes it easier to judge them and see them collectively, rather than as individuals. In other words, it makes it easier to see them as inhuman.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

In a word, No. I was raised in the northwest in a small town with only one black family. There was some that were prestigious against them but not many, or I never saw it if there was. Those that were, were immigrants from other parts of the country, primarily the south. I did see however a lot of bias and prestigious against the native Americans around here.

In the 60's at 17 I made trip to Oklahoma to stay with family for the summer. That was my first exposure to a large population of black people. I was totally and completely surprised by the bias, prestigious and hate I saw from both the white and black populations for each other. Not everyone was that way, but a large majority of both sides were. I won't get into the whys and wherefores, just that it was.

So I believe your premise is flawed.


Comshaw

 

[Comshaw]

Yeah.

I dislike some people because I come to know their ways and they are not mine nor could I abide them.

Good upstanding people have a tendency to loose their color and religion as we get to know them.

So I take this to mean only if they meet your definition of "Upstanding" and you can't look past their religion or color if they don't. Yeh, Ok. Your post unintentionally speaks volumes.


Comshaw

 

[ejredlady]

I was raised in the south as a child of the 50's and teenager in the 60's. We always had a maid until '66 and need I say she was black? I wasn't taught to hate, fear or or look down on blacks. As I matured I realized people are people regardless of their skin color. Only during the last decade have income to realize some people cannot escape their "raising". Trash is going to be trash and class is going to be class, color or finances has no bearing on either.