Your "belief" is not more important than my reality.

[Wrong Element]

Yeah, agree. Even with the glaring, profit-driven hypocrisy, I actually don't doubt the sincerity of their beliefs. I also don't care. People believe dumb things all the time, as is their right; they shouldn't be able to opt out of the law. Particularly "People" that are not actually, you know, people. Like fucking corporations.

Supreme Court justices don't usually snark, but I thought this line of Ginsburg's had some bite:

Until this litigation, no decision of this Court recognized a for-profit corporation's qualification for a religious exemption from a generally applicable law, whether under the Free Exercise Clause or RFRA. The absence of such precedent is just what one would expect, for the exercise of religion is characteristic of natural persons, not artificial legal entities.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Supreme Court justices don't usually snark...

That historically has been the case, but if you've read "Justice" Scalia's dissents over the past two years or so, you'd see some Vetteman-class whining and butthurt.

 

[about_average]

I wonder if Hobby Lobby has been baptized? If not, I wonder how they are going to immerse a corporation. Surely Hobby Lobby wants to go to Heaven.

 

[Phelia]

Seriously. How is it OK to not obey laws based on religious belief? When politicians would talk about how they would put God's law first and man's law second, this used to be a reason for concern and to write the dude off as a dangerous whackjob. But now it's protected?

So can Hobby Lobby refuse to employ somebody on the basis that they're gay now? Why not -- it's a sincerely held religious belief, right? How about stoning people to death? I should be able to use my religion as a defense against murder, right? Slavery, incest - can I go sell my daughters now after I bang them?

I think this decision has to be flavored and motivated by a combination of wanting to chip away at the ACA plus some good ol' fashioned chauvinism. If women are so into "choice," then they should just choose not to have sex (or get raped) if they doesn't want to get pregnant, simple as that. So we don't pay for chicks to get their whore-pills, big deal. I'm not paying for a girl to spread her legs unless it's for ME. Dames, lol.

Supreme Court justices don't usually snark, but I thought this line of Ginsburg's had some bite:

Until this litigation, no decision of this Court recognized a for-profit corporation's qualification for a religious exemption from a generally applicable law, whether under the Free Exercise Clause or RFRA. The absence of such precedent is just what one would expect, for the exercise of religion is characteristic of natural persons, not artificial legal entities.

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[KingOrfeo]

I wonder if Hobby Lobby has been baptized? If not, I wonder how they are going to immerse a corporation.

That's easy so long as their cash flow is in a liquid position! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!

 

[bg23]

I think this decision has to be flavored and motivated by a combination of wanting to chip away at the ACA plus some good ol' fashioned chauvinism. If women are so into "choice," then they should just choose not to have sex (or get raped) if they doesn't want to get pregnant, simple as that. So we don't pay for chicks to get their whore-pills, big deal. I'm not paying for a girl to spread her legs unless it's for ME. Dames, lol.



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speaking of rape, i better go get me some rape insurance! since i live in michigan now and if i didn't plan ahead for my rape i'm going to be so literally screwed when it comes to having to pay for an abortion.

i mean how red is MY face going to be when i show up and the doctor is like, "ok ma'am, let me just see your rape insurance papers and we'll get this going" and i'm like "D'oh!"

 

[bg23]

I wonder if Hobby Lobby has been baptized? If not, I wonder how they are going to immerse a corporation. Surely Hobby Lobby wants to go to Heaven.

oh well done.

 

[BotanyBoy]

speaking of rape, i better go get me some rape insurance! since i live in michigan now and if i didn't plan ahead for my rape i'm going to be so literally screwed when it comes to having to pay for an abortion.

i mean how red is MY face going to be when i show up and the doctor is like, "ok ma'am, let me just see your rape insurance papers and we'll get this going" and i'm like "D'oh!"

It would only be fair women have to buy rape insurance considering the sexist state of affairs in the auto insurance dept.


Yea....sounds right and that's how pro life while at the same time pro death penalty logic works.

 

[bg23]

It would only be fair women have to buy rape insurance considering the sexist state of affairs in the auto insurance dept.


Yea....sounds right and that's how pro life while at the same time pro death penalty logic works.

the auto insurance industry is so fucked up. especially in michigan. i've never seen such expensive insurance in my life.

also...your rates are higher if your CAR IS RED?! SERIOUSLY? THE FUCKING COLOR OF YOUR CAR?

so the fact that they also do it based on age and gender...i'm not surprised. it's fucking stupid and it should be based on the individual's record, not some bullshit statistic.

 

[eyer]

Seriously. How is it OK to not obey laws based on religious belief?

Just as the 5 ruled yesterday:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

If one person's religious belief violates another person's individual right, then that religious belief must cede. Regardless, though, the law of the land dictates first that:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

There is no individual right to employer paid contraception; there is no practical injury done to any individual by another individual or employer when they refuse to pay for another's contraception...

...as far as individual liberty goes, it shouldn't matter what reason an individual has.

So can Hobby Lobby refuse to employ somebody on the basis that they're gay now? Why not -- it's a sincerely held religious belief, right?

Now you're getting it...

...it's called individual liberty. And the First guarantees it for all. So a gay person - or any other individual or employer regardless of flavor - should naturally be able to refuse to employ anyone they don't wish to, regardless of age, color, sex, or orientation, too.

I should be able to use my religion as a defense against murder, right?

You do:

Your religion of abortion has murdered over 50 million in the last 40 years, and you're still free...

...yet, you continue to moan and bitch.

 

[Bacigalupo]

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[Phelia]

Hobby Lobby: it's a sin to take birth control, but pillaging antiquities from Iraq and likely funding ISIS in the process is juuuuuuuuuust fine.

"Christian values" on display again, I suppose. Thank god the court saw fit to protect this corporation's tightly held moral judgments.

 

[Ms_Ann]

Hobby Lobby: it's a sin to take birth control, but pillaging antiquities from Iraq and likely funding ISIS in the process is juuuuuuuuuust fine.

"Christian values" on display again, I suppose. Thank god the court saw fit to protect this corporation's tightly held moral judgments.

You used to be mildly entertaining until you went full out bat shit politico-crazy.

 

[mackiemack]

You used to be mildly entertaining until you went full out bat shit politico-crazy.

Stfu, you weirdo loser. All you do is post vanity threads about posters. You got nothing better to do. You are ugly, with a small dick in real life. Grow up, you aren't even original anymore.