Videogames Harming Kids - 1997 Jack Thompson vs 2017 Liberals

[Chris_Michael]

Source: The Daily Telegraph

So, what's the difference between Republican outcry in the late 90s over videogames and Liberal's 2015-2017 outcry over videogames.

Nothing. Both are censorship and both are extreme conservatism. Showing boobs is bad! We live in a rape culture! Videogames perpetuates rape culture in America!

Face it, Liberals. You are extreme Conservatives in disguise. These people complaining about nudity aren't Christians from the late 90s. It's YOU. You want censorship, you want to cover up women's bodies, and you want Sharia Law because "Islam is the most feminist religion on Earth."

Why do I criticize Liberals? Actual question. Answer: Because they're not liberal. They're extreme Conservatives, like Republicans on steroids. The Republicans from the 90s would agree with you about these videogames harming children.

PORN-influenced heroines in video games with “impossibly big breasts” and unreal bodies are harming a generation of Australian children.

The stark warning comes from concerned body image experts, who warn the increasingly graphic sexual poses and depictions of women in mainstream video games fuel harmful stereotypes and body dysmorphia.

Among the toxically augmented characters in highly suggestive outfits that have burst onto video game screens are Rainbow Mika and Laura Matsuda from Street Fighter V, and Honoka from the Dead or Alive franchise.

“Even when women are depicted as kicking arse, they have to be ‘hot’ doing it,” youth and women’s advocate Melinda Tankard Reist said.

“Attention is drawn to her sexual characteristics, with tight clothing emphasising large, surgically enhanced breasts. It is almost assumed that boys wouldn’t want to play games without sexy women in them.

“We don’t really see strong women depicted without being sexualised first.”

According to Sydney psychologist Sarah McMahon, director of BodyMatters, “these images set up impossible expectations”.

“The women in these video games have impossibly big breasts, they are not athletic,” said Ms McMahon, who specialises in treating patients with eating disorders and body shame issues.

“It adds to a growing culture of self-surveillancing, where girls are watching and worrying about how they look.”

Salvation Army research shows only 16 per cent of Australian girls are happy with their body and weight. And The Butterfly Foundation spokeswoman Sarah Spence said the depiction of women in video games was “becoming more graphic” and negatively affecting boys as well as girls.

“It’s more than just an issue of body esteem and body image,” said Ms Spence, whose organisation supports people affected by eating disorders and negative body image. “It’s very much about over-sexualising women.”

La Trobe University’s senior research fellow Dr Liz Conor said there was a wider issue culturally about unrealistic body images.

“Why is the fantasy of female action figures essentially soft porn?” Dr Conor said. “It’s sexist and values their f ... ability over everything else about them.”

 

[badbabysitter]

Wow, words cannot describe the stupid here

First of all, nowhere and I do repeat NOWHERE in your link is censorship mentioned. You brought up it to prove some point that is not being made. To say that is intellectually honest is a huge misunderstatement

Secondly, Jack Thompson resurfaced as a hero for the gamergate movement; a huge overwhelmingly neo-conservative alt right movement no less; suddenly his censorship wasnt bad as long as it was meant to shut women up


Third, hyper sexualizing women isnt the best way to appeal to women, especially in a business that is infamous for hypersexualizing women and children.

Fourth, if there were to be hypersexualizing of men to sell products to children and teens, you can bet there would be outrage

Fifth, what is the integral and vital game element that absolutely demands that female heroes have tits as big as their heads and run around in their panties?

 

[Chris_Michael]

Wow, words cannot describe the stupid here

First of all, nowhere and I do repeat NOWHERE in your link is censorship mentioned. You brought up it to prove some point that is not being made. To say that is intellectually honest is a huge misunderstatement

Secondly, Jack Thompson resurfaced as a hero for the gamergate movement; a huge overwhelmingly neo-conservative alt right movement no less; suddenly his censorship wasnt bad as long as it was meant to shut women up


Third, hyper sexualizing women isnt the best way to appeal to women, especially in a business that is infamous for hypersexualizing women and children.

Fourth, if there were to be hypersexualizing of men to sell products to children and teens, you can bet there would be outrage

Fifth, what is the integral and vital game element that absolutely demands that female heroes have tits as big as their heads and run around in their panties?

I sincerely hope Vault Girl isn't a Fallout reference, because if so, I'm not even responding to this.

http://t11.deviantart.net/bXqSrL_JZwdbMBfmz3UyvIUvAQY=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre03/d640/th/pre/f/2016/003/c/4/vault_girl_by_zed_draws-d9mlro7.png

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1151/images/14252-2-1464375978.gif

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1151/images/14252-3-1464375977.gif

 

[badbabysitter]

I sincerely hope Vault Girl isn't a Fallout reference, because if so, I'm not even responding to this.

http://t11.deviantart.net/bXqSrL_JZwdbMBfmz3UyvIUvAQY=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre03/d640/th/pre/f/2016/003/c/4/vault_girl_by_zed_draws-d9mlro7.png

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1151/images/14252-2-1464375978.gif

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1151/images/14252-3-1464375977.gif

You do realize those are pics designed by modders and not by Bethesda right?

Otherwise, this is even more intellectual dishonesty

 

[Chris_Michael]

You do realize those are pics designed by modders and not by Bethesda right?

Otherwise, this is even more intellectual dishonesty

You do realize that you're talking to one of the biggest Fallout lovers ever and that I know there is no such thing as Vault Girl. It's either 1. The mod you use to create a preset character with from Nexus Mods or 2. the art style by the person who originally created the Vault Girl Perks mod.

Bethesda has never created Vault Girl content.

And this just goes to show that you play on console.

Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout 4, and Fallout: New Vegas are all 400+ hour games for me. And I have all 100% achievements for each of those titles.

 

[badbabysitter]

You do realize that you're talking to one of the biggest Fallout lovers ever and that I know there is no such thing as Vault Girl. It's either 1. The mod you use to create a preset character with from Nexus Mods or 2. the art style by the person who originally created the Vault Girl Perks mod.

" Art style"

Key words there

Bethesda does not have overly large bouncing breasts officially depicted or enforced in their games

Bethesda has never created Vault Girl content.

Proving my point

And this just goes to show that you play on console.

So if I play on console, that means I am allowed no opinion on giant breasts needlessly in games?

Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout 4, and Fallout: New Vegas are all 400+ hour games for me. And I have all 100% achievements for each of those titles.

Congratulations, in no way does that change my points

 

[Chris_Michael]

So, since you know oh-so-much about Fallout's Vault Girl and you know she's over sexualized, what made you choose to use a title like that.

*looks at your profile picture*

Oh right. Right. Yep, let's do it.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f9/f9d031e5ece3cef14379307bdb0293e61225f697833f4223c093a18c6a0d066a.jpg

 

[badbabysitter]

So, since you know oh-so-much about Fallout's Vault Girl and you know she's over sexualized, what made you choose to use a title like that.

I used what you posted.

It's not my fault that you decided to post something that proved my point

I used it because I put in hundreds of hours into the game, not because of sex. I just never got around to changing it

You would have to prove to me that Fallout Girl is an officially endorsed product in order for you to show me that she's over sexualized.

But.. you just went and did the exact opposite

So so are essentially giving me shit for doing something that I never did

*looks at your profile picture*

So? I in no way am using my picture to sell video games to minors... I mean , wow, that's a pretty desperate stretch pal

You are flailing now