Advisers never talked to con artist about Paris decision

[someoneyouknow]

Apparently, using their own words, spokesperson Sean "Goebbels" Spicer and head of the EPA, Scott "Shove It" Pruitt, have never talked to the con artist about climate change. Ever.

This admission raises serious questions such as: how is it possible, the person who speaks for the con artist, has never discussed with him his views on the matter of climate change when the propaganda minister has to confront the hordes of truth seeking media? This is especially more interesting since the con artist made a random decision to back out of an agreement already agreed to without bothering to mention it to his propaganda minister.

Then there is the matter of the man who is supposed to be heading the agency in charge of making sure the air, water and land isn't raped into oblivion through toxic waste dumping, Love Canals in everyone's back yards, the spewing of heavy metals by coal burning power plants and the pervasive stench of all that borscht being produced. How is it remotely possible this person, who is supposed to work in conjunction with the con artist to set environmental policy, never inquired, discussed or even mentioned the effects climate change will produce?

It's almost as if chaos reigns unabated in the con artist regime where literally, one hand does not know what the other is doing. Where amateur hour is taken to new heights of absurdity in an apparent attempt to show the world how disorganized, disjointed and dedicated to dismissive denials the con artist regime can be.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-epa-head-top-spokesman-say-they-havent-talked-to-him-about-his-climate-change-views/

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Because the con artist thinks it's all a hoax, and Scott Pruitt is a climate change denier.

Pruitt was not brought on to protect the environment anymore than Betsy Devos was brought on to help students. They're merely there to gut the agencies they head of regulations and to raid the federal coffers and privatize as much as they can.


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[ChloeTzang]

Well, why would he. It was one of his core campaign promises and our Great Leader has Delivered yet again. Winning and Making America Great Again just comes naturally to the Illustrious Helmsman steering us towards a better future. Next up, The Wall. And maybe a few million deportations and a few less work visas. Yep, winning all the way.

Btw, did you see that HuffPost / YouGov survey on the media. Used to be 50% of Trump voters saw the media as the enemy of us. Now it's up over 80%. Gotta love the left wing media for firming up Trumps support. Thanks guys.

 

[phrodeau]

Well, why would he. It was one of his core campaign promises and our Great Leader has Delivered yet again. Winning and Making America Great Again just comes naturally to the Illustrious Helmsman steering us towards a better future. Next up, The Wall. And maybe a few million deportations and a few less work visas. Yep, winning all the way.

Btw, did you see that HuffPost / YouGov survey on the media. Used to be 50% of Trump voters saw the media as the enemy of us. Now it's up over 80%. Gotta love the left wing media for firming up Trumps support. Thanks guys.

Bully for you, consulting an enemy for news about the media.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Why feed the trolls


http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/linda-blair-green-vomit.jpg

Bully for you, consulting an enemy for news about the media.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Why feed the trolls

Coz you'd have no one else left to talk to except the sycophants and some of them aren't to smart. You at least are smart and have a delightful command of the vernacular that I do admire, even tho I find your politics sadly reprehensible. Still, it's a delight to exchange insults with you, although I fear my tongue is not so barbed as yours, alas. Still, I read your words and attempt to learn.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Bully for you, consulting an enemy for news about the media.

Well, it was interesting. I'll dig up the link and add it in tomorrow. Quite fascinating. And I do read the left propaganda stuff of and on. Understand the enemy.

 

[JackLuis]

Some remarks on Climate and Trump's speech in the Rose garden.

 

[handysr]

Bully for you, consulting an enemy for news about the media.

Well, it was interesting. I'll dig up the link and add it in tomorrow. Quite fascinating. And I do read the left propaganda stuff of and on. Understand the enemy.

Most "news" sites have at least a glimmer of truth to them before they go onto their tangent. Some have more raw details, some have feelings, and some turn it all into politics. This is on all sides of the spectrum. Every once in a while I'll look at HuffPo, but the politics and bleeding hearts usually drive me away fairly quick. It's too painful to ingest that rubbish.

Back on topic, have you read why Trump withdrew from the agreement? The conditions in it haven't changed since obama went around congress to sign it, so why should he waste time consulting staff about it? Just cancel the thing and move on.

Of course, the overly vocal minority is upset with him. It's fine for other countries to continue to pollute the planet like crazy while the US moves jobs to those countries, but we also pay out the ass to subsidize the other countries building new coal plants and smelters while ours shut down. Wouldn't it be fun to spend trillions of dollars and lose tons of jobs in order to save 1/2 a degree in twenty years? Have you seen China's pollution? They are still making new coal power plants.

Isn't that the UN and NATO way? Have the US bankroll somebody else's agenda, ignoring the will of the people who don't want to turn the US into a subordinate or some other governing board.

 

[sr71plt]

Would that vocal minority be the three million more people who voted for Clinton than who voted for Trump?

 

[magicalmoments]

Well, why would he. It was one of his core campaign promises and our Great Leader has Delivered yet again. Winning and Making America Great Again just comes naturally to the Illustrious Helmsman steering us towards a better future. Next up, The Wall. And maybe a few million deportations and a few less work visas. Yep, winning all the way.

Btw, did you see that HuffPost / YouGov survey on the media. Used to be 50% of Trump voters saw the media as the enemy of us. Now it's up over 80%. Gotta love the left wing media for firming up Trumps support. Thanks guys.

You are wrong, again.

His campaign promise was to cancel the Paris Agreement.

He hasn't done that. All he has done is given notice of the USA's' intention to withdraw from it. At the same time he has clearly indicated his willingness to be part of a new agreement. That suggests he believes global warming is a real threat, why else would he make such an offer?

So... He has not delivered, he was never going to deliver on that promise, and I believe he knew he could never deliver on it. In short he lied, again!

Yes next up deporting all those illegal immigrants who are simultaneously stealing American jobs and too fucking lazy to do a fair days work

 

[ChloeTzang]

Of course, the overly vocal minority is upset with him. It's fine for other countries to continue to pollute the planet like crazy while the US moves jobs to those countries, but we also pay out the ass to subsidize the other countries building new coal plants and smelters while ours shut down. Wouldn't it be fun to spend trillions of dollars and lose tons of jobs in order to save 1/2 a degree in twenty years? Have you seen China's pollution? They are still making new coal power plants.

Isn't that the UN and NATO way? Have the US bankroll somebody else's agenda, ignoring the will of the people who don't want to turn the US into a subordinate or some other governing board.

Exactly. It was a farce from the start and Hussein bypassed Congress to sign it and once again ignored the Constitution. Trump did the right thing here and kudos to him. Of course the ignorant Left hates it. My rule of thumb is, if the Left hates it and objects vociferously, it's the right thing to do.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Climate change is so fake the con artist cited it in his petition to build a sea wall around his Irish golf course:

His application included an environmental impact statement that explicitly mentions "global warming and its effects." According to Politico's report, that statement says that rising sea levels in that region could accelerate erosion.

The statement cited a study by the Irish government predicting a steady rate of erosion through 2050, but the statement says that the study failed to take climate change into consideration.

"If the predictions of an increase in sea level rise as a result of global warming prove correct, however, it is likely that there will be a corresponding increase in coastal erosion rates not just in Doughmore Bay but around much of the coastline of Ireland. In our view, it could reasonably be expected that the rate of sea level rise might become twice of that presently occurring. ... As a result, we would expect the rate of dune recession to increase," the statement said, according to the report.​

So yup, completely fake. Except when it comes to his golf course.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/may/26/donald-trump-wants-to-build-a-wall-to-save-his-golf-course-from-global-warming

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-denies-climate-change-but-wants-to-protect-one-of-his-golf-courses-from-effects/

 

[ChloeTzang]

Climate change is so fake the con artist cited it in his petition to build a sea wall around his Irish golf course:......

Yep, but there's a big difference between that and signing an agreement that has us paying out trillions to other countries while they go ahead and build a gazillion cola fired power stations, like China and India plan to. That's just fucking stupid. Let them fund their own programs. We're already trillions in debt, why the fuck should we bankroll the world? Screw that for a bad joke. You want to do that, you go ahead and donate your own money. I've got better uses for mine. And thankfully, Trump has better uses for our tax dollars.

Besides, Hussein had no authority to sign that Treaty, it would've eventually gone to the Supreme Court and been struck down anyhow coz it's never been ratified by Congress. Hussein went to great lengths to try and get round that, but our Great Leader just cut the Gordian Knot for us. End of Story.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Yep, but there's a big difference between that and signing an agreement that has us paying out trillions to other countries while they go ahead and build a gazillion cola fired power stations, like China and India plan to. That's just fucking stupid. Let them fund their own programs. We're already trillions in debt, why the fuck should we bankroll the world? Screw that for a bad joke. You want to do that, you go ahead and donate your own money. I've got better uses for mine. And thankfully, Trump has better uses for our tax dollars.

Besides, Hussein had no authority to sign that Treaty, it would've eventually gone to the Supreme Court and been struck down anyhow coz it's never been ratified by Congress. Hussein went to great lengths to try and get round that, but our Great Leader just cut the Gordian Knot for us. End of Story.

First, it wasn't "trillions" to other countries. A few million would be directed to UN climate programs.

Second, China is already reducing its coal-fired plants and has several which have higher efficiencies meaning less pollution. This doesn't include wind and solar generated electricity which is increasing since China, unlike the U.S., is investing heavily in solar panel production to create jobs. Again, unlike the U.S.

Third, let's go back to how many "treaties" were signed by former Republican presidents but never ratified by the Senate. I'm sure those were perfectly acceptable, right?

Finally, nice deflection. The con artist talks about climate change being fake then turns around uses that very reason as justification for a sea wall to protect his golf course. No hypocrisy there. Apparently a golf course is more important than clean air and water in this country.

What will really be funny is when his Mar-a-Lago goes under water as the sea level rises. What excuse will he use then?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-climate-change-mar-a-lago-florida-flooded-sea-level-rise-global-warming-winter-white-a7677596.html

Of course, when asked, the con artist admitted humans have some connection to climate change:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/donald-trump-climate-change-new-york-times/index.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-climate-change-new-york-times-2016-11

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-climate-change-mar-a-lago-florida-flooded-sea-level-rise-global-warming-winter-white-a7677596.html

The con artist thinks he'll bring coal back. To use the phrase, "It's dead, Jim". It's not coming back. Not for another two hundred years when oil and natural gas supplies are depleted. And by then, solar will have picked up the slack.

Even Exxon predicted climate change. Forty years ago. So go ahead and whine at them as well:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

So yeah, end of story. The anti-science, anti-truth legions will continue to lie and deny anything is wrong, just like the tobacco companies did for decades. Then, when reality hits, the uneducated deplorables will look around and ask, "Why didn't anyone tell us?"

 

[phrodeau]

A sea wall won't protect Mar-A-Lago. The threat is from the porous rock bed beneath it that will fill with ocean water as the ocean rises.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

It's interesting how the braindead have become unwitting mouthpieces for the 1% as if they are billionaires, too.

Koch Brothers + Rush Limbaugh = Army of Drones who believe the "United States" is getting shafted. Translation: the 1% DON'T WANT TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. Trump's entire foreign policy and "domestic agenda" is nothing but a whine of the rich, eagerly embraced by the dumb fucks.

 

[KUJACK]

Omg

The world is coming to an end. Heat, cold, pestilance, rain, snow, cats and dogs living together. Run forest run,

 

[ChloeTzang]

You just absolutely do not get it do you. You're done. Toasted. Obsolete. It's a class war and you're on the wrong side.

Listen to Trump. “I was elected to help the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. It is time to put Youngstown, Ohio; Detroit, Michigan; and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, along with many other locations within our great country, before Paris, France. .....”

Think about it. Who propelled Trump to the Presidency? Key swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan because he won blue-collar whites by a 40-point margin over the Sea Hag. If you haven't figured it out for yourselves, let me spell it for you. Trump’s America-first message appeals to working-class white voters, especially those in the Rust Belt states. The Demonrats and their idiotic pandering to the greens and the left and the various special interest groups have lost the exact same voting group they need to win any election - white working class voters.

The Paris Climate BS is the very type of issue that won Trump so many Obama voters. It pits traditional Demonrat industrial base voters against the progressive left. And the progressive left will only carry a few localities. Trump has gone with his campaign promises and his electoral base and that's what we voted on. He won and you know what, that's what elections are for. Candidates stand on platforms, they get elected and then they implement those platforms.

Last time round. Obama won. He implemented all sorts of stuff we didn't like. And company's like Target are suffering for not understanding that. Sucks to be them. We didn't like Obama signing on to the Paris Climate fraud thing, you don't like Trump signing out and you know what, you've lost this one. That's what elections are all about. Sucks to lose them.

Live with it, coz one of these years a Demonrat will be in again, altho the way things are going with you Demonrats, maybe not. and really, do you want to make ungovernablity a fact of life, coz really, what comes around goes around. Actually, you know what, on second thoughts forget I even said that coz every word out of your mouths just convinces more and more people that you creatures of the left are just crazies (which you are, and I know that and you know that but there's still a few that haven't realized).

Anyhow, have a wonderful weekend. I'm off to do fun things for the rest of today and tomorrow while the sun's shining down and its's beautiful outside. Hope you all get out and enjoy too.

 

[phrodeau]

Pittsburgh is pissed at what Trump has done.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/c...eement-environmentalists/stories/201706020115

 

[someoneyouknow]

Pittsburgh is pissed at what Trump has done.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/c...eement-environmentalists/stories/201706020115

Stop injecting facts to refute their ramblings. Let them wallow in their white supremacist world of uneducated white men being the savior of the world while ignoring the raping, pillaging and destruction done by the same.

Considering those same states which the con artist won have turned their back on him, as have cities such as Pittsburgh, shows how delusional they are to think the Rust Belt is coming back.

 

[magicalmoments]

You're spot on with your analysis.

The part of the Paris agreement that set targets and amounts to be paid was entirely discretionary. All govts ensured that they retained the right to vary these at their whim. Obama made sure this was the case because he was farsighted and could see that administrations following him might be more isolationist and lack vision.

First, it wasn't "trillions" to other countries. A few million would be directed to UN climate programs.

Second, China is already reducing its coal-fired plants and has several which have higher efficiencies meaning less pollution. This doesn't include wind and solar generated electricity which is increasing since China, unlike the U.S., is investing heavily in solar panel production to create jobs. Again, unlike the U.S.

Third, let's go back to how many "treaties" were signed by former Republican presidents but never ratified by the Senate. I'm sure those were perfectly acceptable, right?

Finally, nice deflection. The con artist talks about climate change being fake then turns around uses that very reason as justification for a sea wall to protect his golf course. No hypocrisy there. Apparently a golf course is more important than clean air and water in this country.

What will really be funny is when his Mar-a-Lago goes under water as the sea level rises. What excuse will he use then?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-climate-change-mar-a-lago-florida-flooded-sea-level-rise-global-warming-winter-white-a7677596.html

Of course, when asked, the con artist admitted humans have some connection to climate change:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/donald-trump-climate-change-new-york-times/index.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-climate-change-new-york-times-2016-11

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-climate-change-mar-a-lago-florida-flooded-sea-level-rise-global-warming-winter-white-a7677596.html

The con artist thinks he'll bring coal back. To use the phrase, "It's dead, Jim". It's not coming back. Not for another two hundred years when oil and natural gas supplies are depleted. And by then, solar will have picked up the slack.

Even Exxon predicted climate change. Forty years ago. So go ahead and whine at them as well:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

So yeah, end of story. The anti-science, anti-truth legions will continue to lie and deny anything is wrong, just like the tobacco companies did for decades. Then, when reality hits, the uneducated deplorables will look around and ask, "Why didn't anyone tell us?"

 

[magicalmoments]

What a load of claptrap.

I understand your logic and to a certain extent acknowledge the populist truth of what you say but that is all it is. Populist claptrap.

The truth of the matter is that to do the things Trump has promised to do he must isolate the USA from the rest of the world. That could be seen by anyone who listened to what he was saying during the campaign. Most people (including the GOP), thought the presidential Trump would move away from grandstanding campaign Trump.

But no he is true to his word and is isolating the USA, reducing USA influence in world affairs, and that is slowly dawning on the very people that rejected the "establishment" and voted Trump in. The idea of a USA that is no longer leader of the Free world frightens them.

I think the demise of Trump might happens a lot sooner than you predict.

You just absolutely do not get it do you. You're done. Toasted. Obsolete. It's a class war and you're on the wrong side.

Listen to Trump. “I was elected to help the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. It is time to put Youngstown, Ohio; Detroit, Michigan; and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, along with many other locations within our great country, before Paris, France. .....”

Think about it. Who propelled Trump to the Presidency? Key swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan because he won blue-collar whites by a 40-point margin over the Sea Hag. If you haven't figured it out for yourselves, let me spell it for you. Trump’s America-first message appeals to working-class white voters, especially those in the Rust Belt states. The Demonrats and their idiotic pandering to the greens and the left and the various special interest groups have lost the exact same voting group they need to win any election - white working class voters.

The Paris Climate BS is the very type of issue that won Trump so many Obama voters. It pits traditional Demonrat industrial base voters against the progressive left. And the progressive left will only carry a few localities. Trump has gone with his campaign promises and his electoral base and that's what we voted on. He won and you know what, that's what elections are for. Candidates stand on platforms, they get elected and then they implement those platforms.

Last time round. Obama won. He implemented all sorts of stuff we didn't like. And company's like Target are suffering for not understanding that. Sucks to be them. We didn't like Obama signing on to the Paris Climate fraud thing, you don't like Trump signing out and you know what, you've lost this one. That's what elections are all about. Sucks to lose them.

Live with it, coz one of these years a Demonrat will be in again, altho the way things are going with you Demonrats, maybe not. and really, do you want to make ungovernablity a fact of life, coz really, what comes around goes around. Actually, you know what, on second thoughts forget I even said that coz every word out of your mouths just convinces more and more people that you creatures of the left are just crazies (which you are, and I know that and you know that but there's still a few that haven't realized).

Anyhow, have a wonderful weekend. I'm off to do fun things for the rest of today and tomorrow while the sun's shining down and its's beautiful outside. Hope you all get out and enjoy too.

 

[phrodeau]

Stop injecting facts to refute their ramblings. Let them wallow in their white supremacist world of uneducated white men being the savior of the world while ignoring the raping, pillaging and destruction done by the same.

Considering those same states which the con artist won have turned their back on him, as have cities such as Pittsburgh, shows how delusional they are to think the Rust Belt is coming back.

But Trump didn't win Pittsburgh… oh right. Facts.

 

[handysr]

What a load of claptrap.

I understand your logic and to a certain extent acknowledge the populist truth of what you say but that is all it is. Populist claptrap.

The truth of the matter is that to do the things Trump has promised to do he must isolate the USA from the rest of the world. That could be seen by anyone who listened to what he was saying during the campaign. Most people (including the GOP), thought the presidential Trump would move away from grandstanding campaign Trump.

But no he is true to his word and is isolating the USA, reducing USA influence in world affairs, and that is slowly dawning on the very people that rejected the "establishment" and voted Trump in. The idea of a USA that is no longer leader of the Free world frightens them.

I think the demise of Trump might happens a lot sooner than you predict.

No he's not isolating the US from the rest of the world. It's more like ensuring the nation can govern itself, not to be managed by an outside group. The USA doesn't need some group like the UN or NATO, not to mention some EU-style group.

Ages ago the country fought for independence, and now you want to give that away?