Awards and Contests nominations

[oggbashan]

I have just been looking at the Awards and Contests Forum for the nominations in various categories for 2016.

There is a disturbing number of minimal posting identities plugging the same author across several categories. They seem like created alts just for the nominations.

Please could some of the Authors' Hangout consider nominating authors and stories for 2016 (NOT me or my stories) to get some balance in the contests?

 

[SusanJillParker]

I have just been looking at the Awards and Contests Forum for the nominations in various categories for 2016.

There is a disturbing number of minimal posting identities plugging the same author across several categories. They seem like created alts just for the nominations.

Please could some of the Authors' Hangout consider nominating authors and stories for 2016 (NOT me or my stories) to get some balance in the contests?

This is the case every year. A sad state of affairs, one would think that the authors' who write here would have more pride in their work than to allow a few imposters to post their names so that they can win a meaningless contest.

After being the only writer who was nominated as the best writer and the best poet in 2008, when I wrote as BostonFictionWriter, I refuse to subject myself to such lunacy.

 

[sr71plt]

I have just been looking at the Awards and Contests Forum for the nominations in various categories for 2016.

There is a disturbing number of minimal posting identities plugging the same author across several categories. They seem like created alts just for the nominations.

Please could some of the Authors' Hangout consider nominating authors and stories for 2016 (NOT me or my stories) to get some balance in the contests?

Oh, no, Ogg, Laurel won't allow comments on the reality of this. She erased them on the nominations thread and said that discussion of reality wouldn't be permitted.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I have just been looking at the Awards and Contests Forum for the nominations in various categories for 2016.

There is a disturbing number of minimal posting identities plugging the same author across several categories. They seem like created alts just for the nominations.

Please could some of the Authors' Hangout consider nominating authors and stories for 2016 (NOT me or my stories) to get some balance in the contests?

Where do I look? I don't mind putting a few in but I'm afraid I had no idea this was going on.

 

[NotWise]

Where do I look? I don't mind putting a few in but I'm afraid I had no idea this was going on.

Go to the "Literotica Discussion Board" link at the top of the page, then from there select "Awards and Contests"

 

[oggbashan]

Where do I look? I don't mind putting a few in but I'm afraid I had no idea this was going on.

There are several categories for nominations but many seem to be filled by the same person and one story.

 

[TxRad]

There are several categories for nominations but many seem to be filled by the same person and one story.

One 70 chapter story.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Go to the "Literotica Discussion Board" link at the top of the page, then from there select "Awards and Contests"

Ah ha. None so blind as them using their phone to browse. Thank you

 

[Boxlicker101]

How many of the nominations are by people with no other posts?

 

[oggbashan]

This is the place to look at the nominations and to add your own:

http://forum.literotica.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7

 

[sr71plt]

One 70 chapter story.

About half that. The contest is for 2016 only. So two stories and then lots of chapters of one more, yet-to-be-completed story.

 

[oggbashan]

Nominations - final call coming soon.

The last day for nominations is 31st March.

When the nominations are listed, voting will begin. No nomination? No votes possible.

 

[lovecraft68]

Pilot and I both had posts deleted for having the nerve to call out the bs. I also mentioned laurels bogus claim that she was going to look at eliminating unfinished long running series. If you look through a couple of the one post wonders are already banned.

I nominated silkstockinglover. Once the nom8nations,are over and the real voting starts I will push for her as much as I can.

It's sad what a joke these are and sadder the site could care less

 

[RejectReality]

So, let's go through this again.

dirtyfish89 Join Date: Jun 2014 Signed up to comment on a story. https://www.literotica.com/stories/storyfeedbackboard.php?id=782580&pagehint=6

Kapes Join Date: Dec 2016 Joined to comment on stories. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=UTF-8#q=Kapes+comments+site:literotica.com&*

Muledriver Join Date: Aug 2014 Lit published author. https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=2107678&page=submissions Prolific commenter. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...8#q=Muledriver+comments+site:literotica.com&*

biggleswade Join Date: Apr 2003 Member for going on 14 years.

PussyLickersRus Join Date Apr 2016 Prolific commenter. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...ussyLickersRus+comments+site:literotica.com&*

GnomeDePlume Join Date Feb 2013 Signed up to comment. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...q=GnomeDePlume+comments+site:literotica.com&*

andya Join Date May 2016 Prolific commenter. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=UTF-8#q=andya+comments+site:literotica.com&*

That is working straight down the nomination list. These are members who joined up to engage which is exactly what everyone says they want readers to do. They're commenting on stories, voting, and even taking the time to come to the forum to nominate an author. Some only joined last year, while others have been here more than a decade.

But because their forum post count is low, they're being trashed as non-entities and told their nomination should be disqualified. The nominated authors are being told they should be ashamed of themselves for inspiring engagement in their readership and should drop out.

If you want readers to engage, stop treating those who do as if they're pond scum simply because they're not your readers.

 

[oggbashan]

The individuals? Possibly not. They obviously enjoy Tefler's work.

But the pattern of nominations looks like an orchestrated campaign.

What I wanted was a more reasonable spread of nominations if these contests are going to have any value at all. Tefler will probably win "Most Influential Author" no matter how many other authors are nominated because Tefler's stories are popular with a significant number of people.

When I can be nominated as "Most Influential Poet of 2015" and come second? There's something amiss with the contest. I posted ONE poem in 2015.

There are other categories that need nominations as well as 'most influential".

If there is no, or very limited, participation in the nomination process or voting I think these contests should be ended.

 

[lovecraft68]

The first problem is in general few readers do anything here other than soak up free material. Voting is too much of an effort for most.

Second issue is "influential author" to the readers is simply a popularity contest. It should involve more than just liking one person's story. But to them it's all they care about

Third issue the endless advantages to unending series that create this type of fan base. What is the number one comment we all see here on lit on all our stories regardless of category?

More.

We want more chapters. This story needs more. I want more. So when someone panders to that by going on and on and on they get more of a fan base than someone who jumps from category to category or writes mostly stand alone material. Chapter series- And even lits biggest defender reject reality has argued this- should not be allowed in any contest. Unless perhaps if they are actually finished.

Last and biggest issue is the site feeding us carp about wanting our feedback or promising changes and then not bothering to do anything at all.

[Politics belong in the political forum]

I'll add one more thing to oggs point about a campaign...twitter. a lot of lit authors use social media to get off lit votes. That's part of the reason for a lot of new one post sign ups.

Also the reason some authors get huge vote totals in the themed contest they tweet about it with a link and to vote in those one doesn't even have to sign up

 

[CyranoJ]

Looking at the Tefler story, it just looks to me like the guy has a legit large readership of a legit successful story, a cluster of whom came here to nominate it. Maybe the author asked his readers "please vote for me" but it needn't be a more "orchestrated campaign" than that.

(It's impressively prolific, too. 70 freaking Chapters of 10 Lit pages each? Wowsers. But it looks competently done and not like it's some rando sending out a flying monkey squad or something.)

That said I shall try to pay more attention to this contest this time out and get some nominations in.

 

[sr71plt]

Sorry, but essentially parts of one running story in the qualifying year in one category only just doesn't cut it in any shape or from as the "most influential" writer on Literotica for that year. That's an insult to both Literotica and the other writers here. So, in essence, the Web site is sponsoring a contest and giving reward to an insult to itself and its body of writers for 2016.

 

[RejectReality]

So, now promoting your work ( assuming it even happened ) is scumbaggery? Readers who are inspired to contact each other and encourage each other to nominate an author they love is scumbaggery?

Why would anyone who spends enough time on the forum to acquire "personhood" through their post count even want to nominate anyone? There's ample evidence that doing anything to support another author opens you up to accusations of incestuous backscratching or worse.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't understand what "most influential writer" means, and I don't see why it isn't just styled "writer of the year" or "best writer of the year". Wouldn't that better get at what people really want to vote for?

You also could have a category of "best stand alone story of the year".

If non-writing readers can vote, then how does it make sense to have an award for "most influential"? I think what people care most about is what authors they like, not which ones influence them.

In Tefler's case, for example, obviously he has an avid following, and his stories get high ratings, but the views for each individual chapter rank much lower than those of many other stories over the last 12 months, according to the toplists. His work seems more admired than influential. Which is fine, as far as I'm concerned, but clarification of the categories would make sense.

 

[sr71plt]

Why would anyone who spends enough time on the forum to acquire "personhood" through their post count even want to nominate anyone?

Out of respect for what would actually constitute the most influential writer on Literotica for 2016? Someone who takes the category seriously and is insulted that others don't by nominating someone who had essentially one story that year in one category and nothing else to support influence as a writer here--no evidence of helping other writers to Literotica do anything at all?

I think I have spent enough time on the forum to acquire "personhood" and also posted a lot of stories to the Web site in 2016 (79) more than Tefler did certainly and in far more categories than Tefler did in 2016. And I did exactly what you question that anyone with "personhood" on the forum would do--I nominated someone for the "most influential writer" category who I think actually deserves a nomination--and a win, for that matter.

 

[CyranoJ]

I don't understand what "most influential writer" means, and I don't see why it isn't just styled "writer of the year" or "best writer of the year". Wouldn't that better get at what people really want to vote for?

Yeah, that one rather stumps me, too. I have no way of measuring who's the most "influential" writer on Lit. It could mean any number of things.

 

[RejectReality]

No matter how you slice it, this annual hatefest is telling readers that they're stupid and/or scumbags and any author who doesn't refuse the nomination of their stupid/scumbag readers is a scumbag themselves.

And it always starts with post count. If you're not here posting on the word chains thread a dozen times a day, you're not real regardless of how many years you've been here, how many comments you've made, how many votes you've cast, how many stories you've posted, or anything else.

 

[SimonDoom]

No matter how you slice it, this annual hatefest is telling readers that they're stupid and/or scumbags and any author who doesn't refuse the nomination of their stupid/scumbag readers is a scumbag themselves.

And it always starts with post count. If you're not here posting on the word chains thread a dozen times a day, you're not real regardless of how many years you've been here, how many comments you've made, how many votes you've cast, how many stories you've posted, or anything else.

I think it's a little more complicated than that. I think the problem is having an award called "most influential" but then not having criteria or a nominating or voting process that has anything to do with picking a writer who is influential (as opposed to popular).

You could resolve this problem by having two awards: a "writer of the year" award open to any Lit member to vote for the writer he or she likes best, and an "influential writer" or writers award that rewards the author that actually has influenced other writers on this site. They're both legitimate subjects for an award, but they're different things.

 

[Laurel]

I think it's a little more complicated than that. I think the problem is having an award called "most influential" but then not having criteria or a nominating or voting process that has anything to do with picking a writer who is influential (as opposed to popular).

It's specified in the very first post on the nominating thread:

In this category, please nominate the writer who affected you the most in 2016. Whose stories did you seek out and enjoy? Who made laugh/cry/etc.? Whose body of work most had an effect on you or your writing (if you're an author) this year?

Author must be an active Literotica author (meaning their account is still currently on Literotica – it has not been removed or cancelled) who submitted stories during the year 2016 (and those submissions must still be on the site).

One nomination per member, please. If multiple nominations are made by a member, only the first listed will count.