Ask Not What He Will Do For Our Country

[gotsnowgotslush]

WTF Have you done for Trump, lately ?

The Rich are rewarded

Free Market!

“If you are rich in this country, you’ll like this plan. If you’re a working-class family in this country, you are going to be devastated by this plan,” Kennedy said in an interview with Boston Public Radio Tuesday. “This isn’t going to get our health care costs under control, this is going to be a massive gift to the wealthy and to insurance companies, at the expense of working-class and middle class families across the country. [President Trump] calls that a good idea, which is just astounding to me.”


http://news.wgbh.org/2017/03/07/bos...kennedy-trumps-healthcare-plan-abject-failure



My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK 1961

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Yeah but don't forget, all those Coal jobs are coming back..

WTF Have you done for Trump, lately ?

The Rich are rewarded

Free Market!

“If you are rich in this country, you’ll like this plan. If you’re a working-class family in this country, you are going to be devastated by this plan,” Kennedy said in an interview with Boston Public Radio Tuesday. “This isn’t going to get our health care costs under control, this is going to be a massive gift to the wealthy and to insurance companies, at the expense of working-class and middle class families across the country. [President Trump] calls that a good idea, which is just astounding to me.”


http://news.wgbh.org/2017/03/07/bos...kennedy-trumps-healthcare-plan-abject-failure



My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK 1961

 

[KingOrfeo]

"Extremism in the pursuit of profit is no surprise."

-- Barry Goldwater, no, really

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Yeah but don't forget, all those Coal jobs are coming back..

WTF Have you done for Trump, lately ?

The Rich are rewarded

Free Market!

“If you are rich in this country, you’ll like this plan. If you’re a working-class family in this country, you are going to be devastated by this plan,” Kennedy said in an interview with Boston Public Radio Tuesday. “This isn’t going to get our health care costs under control, this is going to be a massive gift to the wealthy and to insurance companies, at the expense of working-class and middle class families across the country. [President Trump] calls that a good idea, which is just astounding to me.”


http://news.wgbh.org/2017/03/07/bos...kennedy-trumps-healthcare-plan-abject-failure



My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK 1961

 

[sr71plt]

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK 1961

I've always thought (even when he said it) that that sounded kicky but that it was off. The whole purpose of government is to do for its citizens, collectively and individually, what they need but can't get cost effectively (or at all) individually.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Trump took a few minutes out of his day, to show how petty he is.


March 7, 2017

Today, was Trump's equivalent of kicking Obama's puppies and stomping on Hillary's kittens. He took his petty revenge out on the voters.He knows that the voters did not choose him.

The White House Visitors Office was under Hillary Clinton, when she was First Lady. Trump made it a point to pose under Hillary's portrait in today's photo op. It should have been Melania that welcomed the chiidren to the White House tour.But, anyone that dares to approach Trump's territory, will get used by Trump.

This was Trump flipping the bird at Hillary. He shoved his wife aside, to tell Hillary that he won, and that she lost. He is president, and she was only First Lady. (Trump does not think much of women.He takes petty digs at Melania, and gloats.)

Trump does intend to torment Hillary with the thought of how helpless her voters are, now that they have lost her protection.

Trump takes the nicest occasions, and gives them an undercurrent of mean and ugly.

Thanks G.O.P.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Free market = competition = better services.

Healthcare in the US is about to become world class.

Some Americans don't deserve what they got... seriously....

 

[KingOrfeo]

Free market = competition = better services.

Healthcare in the US is about to become world class.

It doesn't work that way. At present, the health insurance industry is cartelized and non-competitive; eliminating Medicare would bring it new business but would not make it competitive. Hospitals hardly ever advertise, that's how competitive they are. Doctors already compete for patients to some degree, and changes in the insurance field would not make them compete any more or less (the only thing doctors ever seriously compete for is prestige).

 

[EternalFantasies]

It doesn't work that way. At present, the health insurance industry is cartelized and non-competitive; eliminating Medicare would bring it new business but would not make it competitive. Hospitals hardly ever advertise, that's how competitive they are. Doctors already compete for patients to some degree, and changes in the insurance field would not make them compete any more or less (the only thing doctors ever seriously compete for is prestige).

You have no clue what you are talking about. The funny part is, you speak with conviction too.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You have no clue what you are talking about.

So explain how I'm wrong.

 

[EternalFantasies]

So explain how I'm wrong.

Like I told you every-time you have asked me to explain. it will be a waste of time. And I've proven it to myself when i did try to explain.

 

[sr71plt]

Like I told you every-time you have asked me to explain. it will be a waste of time. And I've proven it to myself when i did try to explain.

You have no clue what you are talking about. The funny part is, you speak with conviction too.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Like I told you every-time you have asked me to explain. it will be a waste of time.

It never was when you tried. Just because you didn't convince me doesn't mean nobody learned anything.

 

[phrodeau]

It doesn't work that way. At present, the health insurance industry is cartelized and non-competitive; eliminating Medicare would bring it new business but would not make it competitive. Hospitals hardly ever advertise, that's how competitive they are. Doctors already compete for patients to some degree, and changes in the insurance field would not make them compete any more or less (the only thing doctors ever seriously compete for is prestige).

Hospitals, clinics and doctors don't advertise much, but pharmaceuticals and device makers have massive exposure, and drive up the demand for health care.

 

[Maidboy]

Free market = competition = better services.

An eternal fantasy if ever there was one.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Hospitals, clinics and doctors don't advertise much, but pharmaceuticals and device makers have massive exposure, and drive up the demand for health care.

Yeah, why is that?

What's the point of advertising prescription drugs and devices to the general public? Such things don't get bought just because customers want them; they never get bought unless a physician prescribes them.

But apparently Big Pharma thinks that doctors will prescribe more of their products if patients have been trained to ask for them.

And Big Pharma appears to be right on that point.

 

[EternalFantasies]

It doesn't work that way. At present, the health insurance industry is cartelized and non-competitive; eliminating Medicare would bring it new business but would not make it competitive. Hospitals hardly ever advertise, that's how competitive they are. Doctors already compete for patients to some degree, and changes in the insurance field would not make them compete any more or less (the only thing doctors ever seriously compete for is prestige).

It never was when you tried. Just because you didn't convince me doesn't mean nobody learned anything.

We've had this discussion in the Socialism thread.

There are assumptions in your viewpoint that require adjusting first. Without which, it'll be as usual.

You're focusing on insurance companies, but the true threat is government and as a consequence the doctors themselves.

That's a hint. and the other is, imagining, that you be a democrat lawmaker in charge of my healthcare regulations.

Run Forest Run.

 

[EternalFantasies]

There was a meme i saw once, shoulda saved it.

It said: who of the above is in their best interest that you remain healthy.

I suppose once can deduce the list and the answer for themselves.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

But there’s one thing that this legislation does beautifully: It would cut the sweet living heck out of rich people's taxes.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...e_plan_is_a_massive_tax_cut_for_the_rich.html



The time frame for the bill is most disconcerting to Kennedy, who said he searched for a copy of the bill at the Capitol in the weeks before the release. “Even while we were going door to door in the basement of the Capitol last week trying to find a copy of this bill, they wouldn’t present it to us...they were refusing to show me a copy of this legislation,” he said. “We’ve asked to try to make this law, to strengthen the ACA, it hasn’t happened. We’ve asked for ways to make access to quality healthcare stronger in our country, they refused to work with us. Now, all of a sudden, they’ve presented a plan that guts the very promise of what healthcare is supposed to be in the wealthiest nation on earth. Now they’re saying, take it or leave, and by the way, they’re going to cram it through in 24 hours.”

http://news.wgbh.org/2017/03/07/bos...kennedy-trumps-healthcare-plan-abject-failure