The Donald accuses Barry of wiretapping Trump Tower after the election

[Conager]

Whenever the right-wing #45 supporters whine about people not respecting the precedent by not calling him Mr. Precedent, we can refer back to this thread.

An unprecedented post.

 

[Rightguide]

By wrapping this in the total Russian investigation that Sessions had to step away from, Trump effectively makes it impossible for the current Obama assistant AG to takeover the investigation.

Pretty simple. Unless you are as obsessed as our new BB wannabe. Aka: Zip and Queen.

The AG however, can wade hip deep into the investigation to find those leakers. He can impanel a grand jury with vast authority to go after them. I was listening to Joe diGenova yesterday, he believes Sessions will impanel a grand jury and people will go to prison.

He made another prediction when asked about the travel ban, if the same judge rules it illegal and sends it up to the 9th Circuit and they rule in similar fashion, articles of impeachment will be introduced in the House for all.

 

[Rightguide]

An unprecedented post.

Not completely, there were two instances.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

An unprecedented post.

Did the idiot really post that???


OMG

 

[FakeNews]

Spelling's not for eveyrone, Mr. Precedent

Remembr speling?

Neither does our president. In his first tweet as POTUS — posted at 11:57 a.m. on Jan. 21 — @realDonaldTrump tweeted, “I am honered [sic] to serve you, the great American People, as your 45th President of the United States!” (He later deleted the message.)

He governs as he campaigned. As the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank pointed out in a delicious evisceration headlined “Trump attaks and dishoners English,” Trump has managed to mangle gimmes like “shocker” (“shoker”) and “choker” (“chocker”), as well as second-round spelling-bee softballs such as “instincts” (“insticts”) and “unprecedented” (“unpresidented”).

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-fallow-misspellings-trump-20170220-story.html

 

[Carnal_Flower]

A. The matter of Russia interference. You've characterized it one way; the FBI and CIA in their report characterized it somewhat differently, as did Obama, who slapped new sanctions on them.

Regardless, there is still an open question of IF the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, in some way.

Yes Trump did "jokingly" ask Russia to hack and release. Just because you think that's nothing, the Intel agencies might beg to differ.

B. Who knows what else they're looking at? We don't know. All we know for sure is that a few associates have been caught lying/denying/ covering up their meetings with Russians.

Two people were forced to resign/recuse because Intel leaked to the press. Not made up out of whole cloth. Serious enough to bring Flynn down.

Why are they all acting guilty of something?

Could be nothing. Could be something, but your characterization of last month's reporting is not remotely accurate.

So, "stories" that have "dominated the news" that were selected by and at times created out of whole cloth by news editors hostile to Trump are "the Russia thing?"

I think it's safe for me to assume you are concerned by the "whole Russia thing" that you have read about in these "stories" that have "dominated the news" as of late?

What, in your own words, are your specific concerns? What is it that you are convinced that Trump and or associates of Trump have specifically secretly colluded with the Russians to accomplish, exactly?

The only thing I am aware of that the Russians are alleged to have had a hand in was getting the words of DNC officials and Clinton Campaign insiders before the electorate well in advance of the election.

Since that occurred long before the election, I cannot see that as currently newsworthy. Why would Trump need to have any secret communications encouraging that, when he publically praised the effort?

So, I ask again: what exactly is this "whole Russian thing" you reference?

 

[Disgustipated]

Did the idiot really post that???


OMG

You dumb summamabitch.

 

[Conager]

"Could be nothing, could be something."

"The whole Russia thing."

What is the thing that Trump may (or may not) have colluded with the Russians to actually do?

The NYT both claims to have seen actual transcripts of actual telephone calls and also claims to have hard sources that no one tapped his phones. At least one of those stories is made up.

 

[Conager]

You dumb summamabitch.

Adding mama?

 

[Rightguide]

"Could be nothing, could be something."

"The whole Russia thing."

What is the thing that Trump may (or may not) have colluded with the Russians to actually do?

The NYT both claims to have seen actual transcripts of actual telephone calls and also claims to have hard sources that no one tapped his phones. At least one of those stories is made up.

Flynn, Trump, and Sessions, are victims. The FBI and James Clappper has said there is nothing to these Russian/Trump accusations. A federal grand jury will be impaneled to seek out, identify, and indict, the leakers. They will be found guilty of violating the Espionage Act and put in jail. All of this shit will stop at that point or before. It's only a matter of time. Democrats knew this and were betting on derailing Tump long before now. Their plans are collapsing before their eyes and for some, it will end in tears.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Go ask the FBI.

They've got multiple investigations going.

"Could be nothing, could be something."

"The whole Russia thing."

What is the thing that Trump may (or may not) have colluded with the Russians to actually do?

The NYT both claims to have seen actual transcripts of actual telephone calls and also claims to have hard sources that no one tapped his phones. At least one of those stories is made up.

 

[phrodeau]

Flynn, Trump, and Sessions, are victims. The FBI and James Clappper has said there is nothing to these Russian/Trump accusations. A federal grand jury will be impaneled to seek out, identify, and indict, the leakers. They will be found guilty of violating the Espionage Act and put in jail. All of this shit will stop at that point or before. It's only a matter of time. Democrats knew this and were betting on derailing Tump long before now. Their plans are collapsing before their eyes and for some, it will end in tears.

Will the ones who lied about their contacts with Russian officials be convicted of perjury too? Only a matter of time.

 

[SyKoKo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Q90PLUsAIBdZG.jpg

 

[Disgustipated]

Adding mama?

It's a tribute to Bernie Mack, Q-####.

 

[SyKoKo]

well, this says Trump is right

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...-member-jim-himes-d-cn-justifies-spying-trump

case closed,

Belinda Obama=LOCK HER UP

 

[Rightguide]

Will the ones who lied about their contacts with Russian officials be convicted of perjury too? Only a matter of time.

If the proper referrals are made and it can be proved the "lie" actually meets the legal elements of perjury.

 

[KingOrfeo]

By wrapping this in the total Russian investigation that Sessions had to step away from, Trump effectively makes it impossible for the current Obama assistant AG to takeover the investigation.

Actually . . . no, he doesn't.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Flynn, Trump, and Sessions, are victims. The FBI and James Clappper has said there is nothing to these Russian/Trump accusations. A federal grand jury will be impaneled to seek out, identify, and indict, the leakers. They will be found guilty of violating the Espionage Act and put in jail. All of this shit will stop at that point or before. It's only a matter of time. Democrats knew this and were betting on derailing Tump long before now. Their plans are collapsing before their eyes and for some, it will end in tears.

Not even you believe a single word of that.

 

[Conager]

Go ask the FBI.

They've got multiple investigations going.

Investigations into what?

 

[Rightguide]

Not even you believe a single word of that.

This is a pathetic response but one I have come to expect in the short time I've been here. It didn't start out that way.

 

[phrodeau]

If the proper referrals are made and it can be proved the "lie" actually meets the legal elements of perjury.

Really? I don't recall that happening when Bill Clinton was convicted of perjury. Did someone film him having sex with Lewinsky?

 

[Rightguide]

Really? I don't recall that happening when Bill Clinton was convicted of perjury. Did someone film him having sex with Lewinsky?

No, he was stupid enough to lie directly to a Federal Judge.

 

[KingOrfeo]

"Could be nothing, could be something."

"The whole Russia thing."

What is the thing that Trump may (or may not) have colluded with the Russians to actually do?

Lift Obama's sanctions on Russia, probably; he's already done that.

 

[phrodeau]

No, he was stupid enough to lie directly to a Federal Judge.

Where's the proof that he lied?

 

[Rightguide]

Where's the proof that he lied?

From Wiki:

More specifically, the Independent Counsel concluded that President Clinton testified falsely on three counts under oath in Clinton v. Jones. However, Ray chose to decline criminal prosecution in favor of what the Principles of Federal Prosecution call "alternative sanctions". This included being impeached:
"As a consequence of his conduct in the Jones v. Clinton civil suit and before the federal grand jury, President Clinton incurred significant administrative sanctions. The Independent Counsel considered seven non-criminal alternative sanctions that were imposed in making his decision to decline prosecution: (1) President Clinton’s admission of providing false testimony that was knowingly misleading, evasive, and prejudicial to the administration of justice before the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas; (2) his acknowledgement that his conduct violated the Rules of Professional Conduct of the Arkansas Supreme Court; (3) the five-year suspension of his license to practice law and $25,000 fine imposed on him by the Circuit Court of Pulaski County, Arkansas; (4) the civil contempt penalty of more than $90,000 imposed on President Clinton by the federal court for violating its orders; (5) the payment of more than $850,000 in settlement to Paula Jones; (6) the express finding by the federal court that President Clinton had engaged in contemptuous conduct; and (7) the substantial public condemnation of President Clinton arising from his impeachment."



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