The Donald accuses Barry of wiretapping Trump Tower after the election

It must have been someone else in Oreo drag posting under your username who just called someone a liar for saying Obama was a liar.

Rightguide called Obama a pathological liar who lied to the country continuously for eight years, and that's a damned lie.
 
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Ex-NSA analyst: Intel community thinks Trump’s wiretapping paranoia about Obama is a ‘kooky fantasy’

“Let’s be perfectly clear here: The scenario painted by President Trump of his predecessor tasking the IC with wiretapping Trump Tower simply could not have happened without a far-reaching and highly illegal conspiracy involving the White House and several of our spy agencies, above all the National Security Agency,” Schindler wrote. “My friends still at NSA, where I served as the technical director of the Agency’s biggest operational division, have told me without exception that Trump’s accusation is wholly false, a kooky fantasy.”

Schindler, who has an extensive background in domestic surveillance, explained how improbable Trump’s allegations were.

“In the first place, the White House doesn’t ask for such wiretaps, ever; such requests come directly from NSA, the FBI, or the Justice Department. Involvement of any White House in such highly classified requests would immediately set off enormous red flags in the IC and DoJ due to their glaringly political—and therefore illegal—aim,” he explained.

“Having worked with a lot of FISA collection during my time in the spy business, I can state without reservation that President Trump’s accusations are so inherently implausible as to render them an absurdity” Schindler continued. “He needs to offer hard evidence for such incendiary claims or back down publicly, preferably with an apology to his predecessor, whom he has maligned without cause.”

The former analyst did leave the door open to the notion that there might be wiretaps at Trump Tower — just not ones aimed specifically at Trump and none involving Obama.

“It’s very plausible that NSA and other spy agencies intercepted Kremlin communications which might have incidentally involved associates of our current president,” he explained. “But neither Donald Trump nor his surrogates were being spied on as themselves. If they didn’t realize their shady Russian friends might be considered foreign intelligence targets by NSA and other Western intelligence services, that’s on them.”
 
so he says its KOOKY and he says its possible

in other words

HE IS KOOKY
 
I am not even sure why I am bothering with you copy and paste Queen. But screw it, proving idiots wrong is fun even if they do not see it. Lets just look at point one:

James Comey, the FBI director, has discredited Trump’s wiretap-related tweets

No he didn't. Everything you hear about this comes from a NYT article that only mentions a "high level source says". This is not a fact at all. Given the NYT history of making up sources and posting fake news there is more proof that it isn't true. Add that top the fact that the owner of the NYT lost 16 billion thanks to Trump and only a idiot would take that story at face value.

The White House say you're full of shit.
The White House on Monday pushed back against FBI Director James Comey, with spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying President Donald Trump does not accept the assertion from Comey that former President Barack Obama did not order an illegal wiretap of Trump Tower.
 
Trump Aides Keep Leaking Embarrassing Stories About How He Can’t Handle Embarrassment

The president is a 70-year-old child whose TV time must be closely monitored — because any news story that upsets his ego will trigger a temper tantrum followed by irrational demands that his indulgent, overwhelmed guardians will be helpless to refuse.

Or so Donald Trump’s aides keep confiding to the nearest available reporter.

On Sunday, one of the president’s confidantes told Politico that his staffers have to “control information that may infuriate him,” a task made difficult by the fact that the leader of the free world “gets bored and likes to watch TV.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ant-stop-blabbing-about-how-hes-a-madman.html
 
in the 24 hour news cycle a story from january might as well be from fucking 1812.
 
Has Trump offered any evidence about the illegal voting he has alleged?

He doesn't do that, he accuses and let's the thing take care of itself. More often than not it works because his intention is to distract not to actually accomplish whatever it is he's complaining about.
Now he's trying to get people to ignore the whole Russia thing but it's not really working and I imagine that is bugging the heck out of him.
 
He doesn't do that, he accuses and let's the thing take care of itself. More often than not it works because his intention is to distract not to actually accomplish whatever it is he's complaining about.
Now he's trying to get people to ignore the whole Russia thing but it's not really working and I imagine that is bugging the heck out of him.

What "whole Russia thing?"
 
Back to the topic at hand, and something I don't understand: Why did The Donald ask Congress to investigate? Has nobody told him that the FBI works for him? I hear they can do investigations.
 
Back to the topic at hand, and something I don't understand: Why did The Donald ask Congress to investigate? Has nobody told him that the FBI works for him? I hear they can do investigations.

1) He's a fucking moron who doesn't even understand how government works

2) As a smokescreen because just like the 3 million illegals who he says voted in California, he really doesn't want an investigation.
 
Back to the topic at hand, and something I don't understand: Why did The Donald ask Congress to investigate? Has nobody told him that the FBI works for him? I hear they can do investigations.

By wrapping this in the total Russian investigation that Sessions had to step away from, Trump effectively makes it impossible for the current Obama assistant AG to takeover the investigation.

Pretty simple. Unless you are as obsessed as our new BB wannabe. Aka: Zip and Queen.
 
By wrapping this in the total Russian investigation that Sessions had to step away from, Trump effectively makes it impossible for the current Obama assistant AG to takeover the investigation.

Pretty simple. Unless you are as obsessed as our new BB wannabe. Aka: Zip and Queen.

Actually the president can neither order, nor be informed of the progress of a criminal investigation. That is one of the firewalls that is SUPPOSED to be in place to prevent the use of the FBI for political purposes. Further, all criminal investigations are done behind the curtain. Congressional investigations on the other hand are out in the view of the public. So if the yahoo's making fun of Trump for calling on congress knew shit they wouldn't have shot off their mouths in this thread.

The one area where the president can initiate an FBI investigation and receive updates is WRT national security.

Ishmael
 
Barack Obama is turning his new home in the posh Kalorama section of the nation's capital -- just two miles away from the White House -- into the nerve center of the mounting insurgency against his successor, President Donald J. Trump.

Obama's goal, according to a close family friend, is to oust Trump from the presidency either by forcing his resignation or through his impeachment.

And Obama is being aided in his political crusade by his longtime consigliere, Valerie Jarrett, who has moved into the 8,200-square-foot, $5.3-million Kaloroma mansion with the former president and Michelle Obama, long time best friends.

Jarrett played a vital -- if at times low-key -- role in the Obama presidency. She lived in the White House, dined with the Obamas, and help shape his domestic and foreign policies.

Daily Mail
 
The stories that have dominated the news for the last month or more. No doubt you are casting bait but I am not currently hungry.

So, "stories" that have "dominated the news" that were selected by and at times created out of whole cloth by news editors hostile to Trump are "the Russia thing?"

I think it's safe for me to assume you are concerned by the "whole Russia thing" that you have read about in these "stories" that have "dominated the news" as of late?

What, in your own words, are your specific concerns? What is it that you are convinced that Trump and or associates of Trump have specifically secretly colluded with the Russians to accomplish, exactly?

The only thing I am aware of that the Russians are alleged to have had a hand in was getting the words of DNC officials and Clinton Campaign insiders before the electorate well in advance of the election.

Since that occurred long before the election, I cannot see that as currently newsworthy. Why would Trump need to have any secret communications encouraging that, when he publically praised the effort?

So, I ask again: what exactly is this "whole Russian thing" you reference?
 
"I have, right here in my hand, a list of US Senators that have had treasonous contacts with the RUSSIAN Ambassador!!"

:rolleyes:
 
Whenever the right-wing #45 supporters whine about people not respecting the precedent by not calling him Mr. Precedent, we can refer back to this thread.
 
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