Have you looked at your investments lately?

I was looking into buying some Russian stocks or an ETF but now that Trump seems to be morphing into a typical neo-con and "better relations" with Russia seem to be slipping away, I'll stick to US stocks.
 
Yeah, I keep waiting for this market to get the kick in the pants it needs.
 
Sell, sell, SELL!!!

And go to bonds? Their worthless. Gold? (Maybe) Oil? ( nah, OPEC could take another crack at putting those US frackers out of business), maybe short some REITS?


Come on man!!! If your going to give advice don't half ass it!!! :D
 
And go to bonds? Their worthless. Gold? (Maybe) Oil? ( nah, OPEC could take another crack at putting those US frackers out of business), maybe short some REITS?


Come on man!!! If your going to give advice don't half ass it!!! :D

There are rumblings about the Gold Standard in the Administration, I was following some of the links in an American Thinker blog earlier.

Interesting times.
 
"There is timing in the void."

Miyamoto Musashi



Hiring ticked up and unemployment ticked up, good signs for the future.
 
And go to bonds? Their worthless. Gold? (Maybe) Oil? ( nah, OPEC could take another crack at putting those US frackers out of business), maybe short some REITS?


Come on man!!! If your going to give advice don't half ass it!!! :D

I've been playing in and out of JNUG lately. Timing is everything.

I'm guessing you're being tongue-in-cheek, but for those who don't "get it" stocks are THE best growth investment. A diversified stock portfolio is the very best way to passively make money.

BUT...very few people enjoy true financial growth in a declining stock market. Bonds, commodities and your good ol' bank money market are NOT worthless. They're just not designed to be lucrative. They still fair far better than keeping your money under the mattress in the event of a house fire, which, during bad times is about all you can hope for your money.

Like you said, "timing is everything." And if there was ever a time ripe for the pendulum to swing in the opposite direction, we're THERE!
 
I'm guessing you're being tongue-in-cheek, but for those who don't "get it" stocks are THE best growth investment. A diversified stock portfolio is the very best way to passively make money.

BUT...very few people enjoy true financial growth in a declining stock market. Bonds, commodities and your good ol' bank money market are NOT worthless. They're just not designed to be lucrative. They still fair far better than keeping your money under the mattress in the event of a house fire, which, during bad times is about all you can hope for your money.

Like you said, "timing is everything." And if there was ever a time ripe for the pendulum to swing in the opposite direction, we're THERE!

Tongue-in-cheek is always a safe assumption with me and correct in this case. ;)

Not worthless but also not what they use to be. Buffet made billions in bonds by getting in before the tech burst. Of course that was when the feds could lower interest rates as a tool for a shit stock market. ( Investments for dummies: Interest rates go down, yields go up). In today's interest rate environment that is not a option. But hell, back then some bonds were pulling 6-10%. Hell, tax free munis were yielding 3-5%.

End result: Bonds as a tool for protection in a down market that will still give you a decent yield are dead....
 
Thanks Obama!

Market goes from 8,000 to 19,700 "Its fake money!"

Market goes from 19,700 to 20,000 "Prez Mr. T is a genious"

You can't make this shit up 'cause no one would believe it.

These are not mutually exclusive. The difference is that there is no QE going on at the moment. Right now, business, investors and consumers are feeling more confident in the future and the business policies of the Administration in particular and Republicans in general. Obama lost you the election by making it about him generally and Hillary drove the last nail into her political coffin when she labeled anyone who supported Trump a deplorable.

But yes, we are still playing with inflated dollars...
 
He tries soooo hard!

These are not mutually exclusive. The difference is that there is no QE going on at the moment.

QE ended 2 1/2 years ago. Stock market has done well since then. Red Herring

Obama lost you the election by making it about him generally
Obama didn't run in the last election

Hillary drove the last nail into her political coffin when she labeled anyone who supported Trump a deplorable.
She called a subset of Trump voters deplorable, which you Conagerized to "anyone" because it's a lot easier to criticize positions you arbitrarily assign to people.
 
LOL um...I don't have a single investment. Maybe a couple hundred in a 401K and what little i have in Social Security...maybe 2k in the bank right now. Oh I have a house, two cars and a motorcycle and a few other material possesions but...man I guess I'm screwed!
 
Lost 32% during banking crisis, gained back 7.5% next year, lost 8.5% during Greek crisis, gained 7.5 back, then gained 24% last 3 years has been just over 10% a year, high growth, high risk, single bachelor not gambling with kids legacy or wife's pension supplements, haven't seen last years results yet. Trump has had little effect. Bush years were bad, Greece was bad, Obama if anything was good. Hopefully Brexit and EU instability doesn't hurt too much.
 
The price of gas has gone up under Trump as well.

Now subtract what you'll end up paying at the pump and in heating costs over the next 4 years.

:rolleyes:
 
Canada's trade surplus with the US has taken a huge hit with falling oil prices. But that has let us stay out of the orange gits sights. If oil prices rise so will our trade surplus with the US. Then the orange git will start looking at our participation in NAFTA like he has Mexico. In fact we might even have a trade deficit. That is not good!
 
Let's take a look at things four or eight years from now. Obama inherited an economic shitstorm. Trump inherited a pretty decent situation. (Here's where our lunatic fringe argues that it's all a mirage and fake money.) I think we need more than two weeks to crown Trump our "economic savior."
 
Since Prez Mr. T took over my mutual fund is way up :cool:

If your mutual fund is just now being "way up" you have a shitty mutual fund. For the past 8 years things have been flying high. Third longest streak of increases in stock market history and (I think) the second highest gain in history.

You can thank Obama for all that. Unless your fund has been in cash for the past 8 years in which case the fund manager is an idiot.
 
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