Who's the biggest SJW on the GB?

[BotanyBoy]

So that's why my guts clench and why I worry, because they're at risk and they're being victimized.

Who is they and how are they being victimized?

Who is victimizing them?

 

[Fata Morgana]

Well, that's why I'm open to discussing this issue with you:

1.Not only because you were kind to me lately and when I started, but also because I never saw you engage or encourage the pattern of harassment that those progressive turds engage in.
I have no respect for them; I respect you

2.Unfortunately, I'm still biased because I caught a period of the GB where I've seen Ann behave well and she was never mean to me. Moreover, given my own experiences and what I've seen around me too, I harbour quite a bit of contempt for the progressives.

That's why I'll continue to be judgmental of and interfere in the progressives soup like an annoying fly (I love it when they get frustrated and pissed off despite pretending to have the upper hand),
- but I decided to no longer interfere between you and Ann like I did before.

Nevertheless, I've taken what you said on board and I'll be vigilant about such issues. It's possible that I will change my mind; hell, I already changed my views on many things around here

Fair comments, my little butter bean.

 

[Recidiva]

Who is they and how are they being victimized?

Who is victimizing them?

I'm sure the right answer somehow is 'anybody who is not a white male' and 'white male' but oddly enough, the news does actually show that sometimes it is in fact a white male doing the bad thing and a non-white non-male getting the bad thing done.

So here's something from today:

Indigenous Activist Zip-Tied & Locked in Dog Kennel for 6 Hours for Protesting Dakota Access Pipeline

I'm entirely open to white males being victimized, it happens and it happens a lot. It just doesn't happen exactly like this... a lot.

Seems to happen to other people though.

 

[Fata Morgana]

YES! Phil getting the chop is great news!

If you haven't read all of Tana French, do it, "The Trespasser" just came out and it should be in your head. *nods*

Job from "Banshee" is one of the best fictional creations evah.

Let's see... good stuff we've been watching... Oh - "Braindead" is a now terribly relevant satire of American politics. Hoping they renew it. It is... actually really funny though it doesn't sound like it - the theory is that alien bugs have eaten people's brains (or at least half) and Tony Shalhoub is the absolute best. (I know this is a hard sell, but it's really worth it. Can't explain. Must be experienced.)

"Timeless" is a cool little bit of historical trivia gathering where there's folks attempting to maintain the timeline and folks attempting to keep it as it is -which means stuff like 'Make sure Lincoln gets shot in the head as per history.' Thus leading into a several-day 'discussion' between Ulaven and I as to whether or not given a time machine and a gun... do either of us shoot Trump? The problem is, Mike Pence is worse. So make sure he isn't born? Hmmmm...

I'm trying to remain cool and not get my hopes up. They are making massive cuts at work and his post is deleted in the restructure. I think mainly because he's upset so many people in the past, senior management are sick of dealing with the fallout from it all. It's a shame cos in some ways he's a clever bloke. He should be in the kinda job where he's in a room on his own dealing with stats and reports. He has no management skills whatsoever. My job is safe anyway so that's the main thing!

Oh god yeah, Job was fucking brilliant. I loved him. The last season was a tad weak compared to the others but I guess they'd gone as far as they could with the plots. I need something new to get my teeth into now! Gutted Penny Dreadful finished too, but not watched last season yet. Strangely I'm kinda loving the new Exorcist! I thought it would be utter shite but it's really good, and a great twist/storyline (not a remake thank fuck). The new season of AHS is so dreadful I can't watch it anymore, it's basically torture porn.

Will check out the Tana French book. Here's one I loved this year; Eileen by Ottessa Moshfegh. Eileen was an unholy mess of a girl, a bowel obsessed mad cunt but oddly endearing. I think maybe my fave book of the year. That and A Man Called Ove by Fredrik Backman, which was both hilarious and heart breaking. I think you would love both!

 

[Fata Morgana]

Reci, do I need to read The Secret Place first or is it stand alone?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I'm sure the right answer somehow is 'anybody who is not a white male' and 'white male' but oddly enough, the news does actually show that sometimes it is in fact a white male doing the bad thing and a non-white non-male getting the bad thing done.

So here's something from today:

Indigenous Activist Zip-Tied & Locked in Dog Kennel for 6 Hours for Protesting Dakota Access Pipeline

I'm entirely open to white males being victimized, it happens and it happens a lot. It just doesn't happen exactly like this... a lot.

Seems to happen to other people though.

Not to mention that as a white man, my odds of being shot to death during a traffic stop are minuscule no matter where I'm pulled over. As a straight white man I'm not going to be discriminated against no matter where I go in the states, your hyperventilating aside BotanyB. Were I a woman, a minority, or LGBTQ I'd be concerned for my safety a good portion of the time, especially considering the President elect's stirring up the bigots and giving them a voice.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm entirely open to white males being victimized, it happens and it happens a lot. It just doesn't happen exactly like this... a lot.

OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING RACIST!!!


LMFAO....


In all seriousness though that sound like a major asshole government problem....seems to me skin color has fuck all to do with it.

 

[Sean]

I'm answering here because I don't want to make the other thread about me.

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[Recidiva]

Reci, do I need to read The Secret Place first or is it stand alone?

The books are in order:

In The Woods
The Likeness
Broken Harbor
The Secret Place
The Trespasser

The way the books work are that the books are told from the first person view of a Dublin murder detective. So the first narrator is Adam Ryan and his partner is Cassie Maddox. Then the next book is Cassie Maddox narrating. The first two books, In The Woods and The Likeness ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ROCK because... of Cassie Maddox. The next two suffer due to the lack of Cassie Maddox, frankly.

The Trespasser has another kickass and complicated female detective narrating and she's not Cassie, but damn is she good and I love her in that complicated gotta give it to the girl way.

She's still an amazing author no matter what story she is telling, but the lack of Cassie Maddox means lack of kickass banter in some ways.

So ratings for the books in my opinion

In The Woods - 10
The Likeness - 10
Broken Harbor - 7
The Secret Place - 7
The Trespasser - 10

So the reason to burn through them all in order, which will take you, like... a week? Then a few more weeks to burn through the first two and the last again... the narrated versions on Audible are great too. They're all good books and she has a talent for accurate psychological portrayals, complicated plotting and 'what the fuck is going on here?' for that added first-person hand-cam lack of narrator and certainty.

I have to give "The Trespasser" a 10 for the most complicatedly and awesomely plotted book I may have ever heard (twice)

Tana French is excellent at poetry and prose, hard to find. If the first few pages of "In The Woods" are not entrancing, someone's dead inside.

Broken Harbor and The Secret Place are still great books, but don't rise to the complexity of the first two and the last and the protagonists are well built but NOT CASSIE MADDOX (yes, I'm bitter.)

BUT... the reason to go through all of them is that this is the same murder squad the entire way through, and the characters are continuous and they change through time.

You can read each book alone and it will stand alone, though.

*hops up and down* I LOVE HER!

 

[Fata Morgana]

The books are in order:

In The Woods
The Likeness
Broken Harbor
The Secret Place
The Trespasser

The way the books work are that the books are told from the first person view of a Dublin murder detective. So the first narrator is Adam Ryan and his partner is Cassie Maddox. Then the next book is Cassie Maddox narrating. The first two books, In The Woods and The Likeness ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ROCK because... of Cassie Maddox. The next two suffer due to the lack of Cassie Maddox, frankly.

The Trespasser has another kickass and complicated female detective narrating and she's not Cassie, but damn is she good and I love her in that complicated gotta give it to the girl way.

She's still an amazing author no matter what story she is telling, but the lack of Cassie Maddox means lack of kickass banter in some ways.

So ratings for the books in my opinion

In The Woods - 10
The Likeness - 10
Broken Harbor - 7
The Secret Place - 7
The Trespasser - 10

So the reason to burn through them all in order, which will take you, like... a week? Then a few more weeks to burn through the first two and the last again... the narrated versions on Audible are great too. They're all good books and she has a talent for accurate psychological portrayals, complicated plotting and 'what the fuck is going on here?' for that added first-person hand-cam lack of narrator and certainty.

I have to give "The Trespasser" a 10 for the most complicatedly and awesomely plotted book I may have ever heard (twice)

Tana French is excellent at poetry and prose, hard to find. If the first few pages of "In The Woods" are not entrancing, someone's dead inside.

Broken Harbor and The Secret Place are still great books, but don't rise to the complexity of the first two and the last and the protagonists are well built but NOT CASSIE MADDOX (yes, I'm bitter.)

BUT... the reason to go through all of them is that this is the same murder squad the entire way through, and the characters are continuous and they change through time.

You can read each book alone and it will stand alone, though.

*hops up and down* I LOVE HER!

Oh god I'm excited. Especially now I know they're set in Ireland! I think I'll order the first one and start from the top!

 

[Recidiva]

OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING RACIST!!!


LMFAO....


In all seriousness though that sound like a major asshole government problem....seems to me skin color has fuck all to do with it.

I'm going to speak quietly but in fact this is something that should be shouted.

Major Asshole Governments are populated by Major Assholes and the majority of them are white males.

If you do not think that skin color or gender had anything to do with a white man putting a female Native American in a dog kennel in order to 'show her the place that she belongs' and illustrate exactly how Major Assholes see minorities and women...

You are mistaken.

If you don't think white males in America are given a pass, authority and the right to abuse it at will, just check out Jeffrey Dahmer's case, where a Filipino boy whose brother was raped and killed by Jeffrey was delivered back to him by the police who considered it a lover's quarrel when the boy managed to escape and report what happened to him. And the cops were vindicated and served no time.

Awful lot of stories go this way and if you want to be 'colorblind' and 'gender blind' where you just think that's an asshole...

Then I don't care what you call it - but women and minorities happen to have recognized the actual pattern and how about listening to them?

Maybe point out the assholes, call them whatever you want, I don't care. But if one of them does happen to be white and male, in fact a LOT of them, maybe acknowledge the evidence and not decide it's a conspiracy.

 

[Fata Morgana]

Back the fuck up! I've read number one!

 

[Liar]

OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING RACIST!!!


LMFAO....


In all seriousness though that sound like a major asshole government problem....seems to me skin color has fuck all to do with it.

Does this proportionally happen to white people in similar circumstances?

I'm gonna go ahead and guess no. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Recidiva]

Oh god I'm excited. Especially now I know they're set in Ireland! I think I'll order the first one and start from the top!

YES! YES! YES!

I think you will love them. I can't imagine that you wouldn't... that just does not match reality.

At least for me, I love the Audible versions with the accents because... I always thought Slainte was actually 'slaynt' - it's been a fabulous education for an American. She is an amazing author. The things I learn. Plus I now have ordered pear cider because who knew such things existed?

 

[Fata Morgana]

YES! YES! YES!

I think you will love them. I can't imagine that you wouldn't... that just does not match reality.

At least for me, I love the Audible versions with the accents because... I always thought Slainte was actually 'slaynt' - it's been a fabulous education for an American. She is an amazing author. The things I learn. Plus I now have ordered pear cider because who knew such things existed?

I fucking love pear cider. I also like strawberry & lime cider which is surprisingly lovely.

 

[Recidiva]

Back the fuck up! I've read number one!

CASSIE MADDOX!

Seriously, she never does tell Rob's story of what happened and she's promised she would and I am continually bitter that I DO NOT KNOW.

TELL ME TANA!

I love that book so much.

 

[Recidiva]

I fucking love pear cider. I also like strawberry & lime cider which is surprisingly lovely.

See, now I want that!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not to mention that as a white man, my odds of being shot to death during a traffic stop are minuscule no matter where I'm pulled over.

They are minuscule for everyone....and taking into account white vs. black interaction rates you have a microscopically higher odds for being gunned down by cops.

As a straight white man I'm not going to be discriminated against no matter where I go in the states, your hyperventilating aside BotanyB.

LOL come to SF....

Not to mention about a dozen cities where being white in the wrong neighborhood can get your ass put in the hospital if not killed.

Were I a woman, a minority, or LGBTQ I'd be concerned for my safety a good portion of the time, especially considering the President elect's stirring up the bigots and giving them a voice.

You genuinely think your skin color and penis make you safer?? LOL

Being male (especially those under 30) puts you at a SIGNIFICANTLY elevated risk of being the victim of a violent crime.

And if you're a minority you know who your biggest threat is almost entirely?

OTHER MINORITIES!! Not white people....

LGBTQ? Keep your sex life to yourself not only are they not abnormally persecuted but their biggest threat once again is members of their own community.

 

[Recidiva]

LOL come to SF....

Not to mention about a dozen cities where being white in the wrong neighborhood can get your ass put in the hospital if not killed.

Having lived in NYC, SF and LA...

Let me call bullshit on this one. Loads and loads of bullshit. I was warned that "The Tenderloin" in SF was so very dangerous, and other than Orlando, this sweet older gentleman who wanted to recruit me so he could be my pimp, which I kindly declined and he said was a shame... when I lived there, the amount of potential crime or violence was just not there compared to living in NYC in any way.

Seriously, Ulaven works in NYC... and here we go - my 'black brother in law' who people believe I made up in a sock puppet sense is real. And he gets pulled over for driving while black several times a year between his commute of Montclair and NYC. Ulaven? Zero times a year.

My brother in law has experienced SO MUCH RACISM... for a lifetime... and in exactly the same place where I experience none, where my husband experiences none.

How about you listen to the actual minorities who know what they're talking about?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Major Asshole Governments are populated by Major Assholes and the majority of them are white males.

If you do not think that skin color or gender had anything to do with a white man putting a female Native American in a dog kennel in order to 'show her the place that she belongs' and illustrate exactly how Major Assholes see minorities and women...

You are mistaken.

None of that makes major asshole is an inherent white male trait.

How much do you want to bet there are minorities and women among those cops??

Minority and female cops have been caught doing corrupt heinous shit JUST like white cops.

Then I don't care what you call it - but women and minorities happen to have recognized the actual pattern and how about listening to them?

I have, and nothing they have shown me has indicated that being white or male makes someone a racist fucking scum bag.

Maybe point out the assholes, call them whatever you want, I don't care. But if one of them does happen to be white and male, in fact a LOT of them, maybe acknowledge the evidence and not decide it's a conspiracy.

Evidence of WHAT?

Does this proportionally happen to white people in similar circumstances?

The government shitting on them? Yea...happens all the fucking time.

Cops gunning them down?? Yea....happens all the fucking time.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess no. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

You'd guess wrong and I've posted proof for YEARS on this site only to be called a racist for it.

ANYTHING outside the SWJ narrative = racism, sexism or xenophobia. LOL

 

[BotanyBoy]

How about you listen to the actual minorities who know what they're talking about?

OHHHHHH so me being Korean, I'm not an ACTUAL minority anymore...I don't know what it's like.

LMFAO.

The fucking arrogance of the uppity white liburhul....

Oh please white lady, lecture me more about what it's like to deal with racist assholes.

And you can call bullshit all you want I've seen people gunned down in the streets of both SF and Oakland, hell even on the bay bridge.

 

[Liar]

You'd guess wrong and I've posted proof for YEARS on this site only to be called a racist for it.

What, like, statistics?

 

[Recidiva]

None of that makes major asshole is an inherent white male trait.

How much do you want to bet there are minorities and women among those cops??

Minority and female cops have been caught doing corrupt heinous shit JUST like white cops.



I have, and nothing they have shown me has indicated that being white or male makes someone a racist fucking scum bag.

Evidence of WHAT?

The government shitting on them? Yea...happens all the fucking time.

Cops gunning them down?? Yea....happens all the fucking time.

You'd guess wrong and I've posted proof for YEARS on this site only to be called a racist for it.

ANYTHING outside the SWJ narrative = racism, sexism or xenophobia. LOL

I am not saying that white males are all racist scum. I happen to be married to one and a daughter of one and they were and are amazing people who protected people that did not have representation.

Guess who those people were? Most often... not other white males. Who did they push back against? Other white males who wished to privately share their racism and misogyny.

Yes, everyone, of all genders, races and upbringing, has the potential to be an evil fuck.

They don't all have the power to achieve the level of evil fuckery that can elevate a complete abusive douche of a human being like Donald Trump to the office of the President because their voters otherwise would have to vote for a woman and we can't have that.

The difference is access to power, not capacity. Everyone has the capacity. White males happen to have more opportunity and that's why the numbers skew in their direction in America, because it is white males that hold the power.

It is not an absolute, but it is a potential, because the power is concentrated in one demographic and therefore abuse of power will tend to represent that demographic.

It's really not that hard of a concept to understand that if 'a majority' of abusers in any demographic in any country hold power, those are the ones abusing it potentially.

 

[Recidiva]

OHHHHHH so me being Korean, I'm not an ACTUAL minority anymore...I don't know what it's like.

LMFAO.

The fucking arrogance of the uppity white liburhul....

Oh please white lady, lecture me more about what it's like to deal with racist assholes.

And you can call bullshit all you want I've seen people gunned down in the streets of both SF and Oakland, hell even on the bay bridge.

I don't believe I spoke to you, only to my experience in being in SF versus being in NYC. That's also borne out by crime statistics.

Oakland is scary, yo. So is that bridge. I mean it's HIGH. Plus there are all these movies where it keeps being destroyed. It's just not safe.

Oh, and earthquakes and shit. Seriously. What the fuck? I was there for the Los Gatos quake and FUCK. THAT.

I'm not trying to tell you how to deal with them, I'm trying to point out that recognizing them and the fact that some of them are male and white is not a conspiracy, it's statistics.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What, like, statistics?

And news reports both mainstream and alt media of various flavors.

But most people don't give a shit if the EPA throws white family off their farm on totally fucking bogus bullshit charges for Monsanto.

Destroys them economically with millions of dollars in fines for something they had permits for.

Nobody gives a fuck if CHP shoots an unarmed 19 year old white boy.



If anyone gets upset about that they are just white supremacist.