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Petition to change electoral votes to favor HRC.

Fuck that. We lost, thems the rules. If we want to change the rules 2018 is the year, not that we're ever going to change the rules. Not without a MASSIVE Democrat control of this country that I don't believe is possible.
 
This petition is one of the strangest outcomes of all. I guess this is the bargaining stage in the 12 steps.
 
patient1 said:
This petition is one of the strangest outcomes of all. I guess this is the bargaining stage in the 12 steps.
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LOL....the butthurt is so fucking real this year.

It's every bit as deep as Obama winning in 08' but the other sides turn.
 
Don't forget you folk did not vote for a president. You just suggested which way the folk who do elect the president should vote. Also the majority of Yanks voted for Billy's wife. So all you conservatives, don't get too smug. The American people do not elect the POTUS. In most cases if the Electoral College felt it was in the better interest of the US to have someone of their choosing as POTUS, there is little you could do about it.

Even with a Democrat majority every where. The smaller states will never get rid of the Electoral College without some other way of increasing their say in things.
 
Oh hell NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want just the west coast electing the Pres. Deal with the lost asshole, it was good enough for the founding fathers and they were a hell of a lot smarter than you
 
Hard_Rom said:
Don't forget you folk did not vote for a president. You just suggested which way the folk who do elect the president should vote. Also the majority of Yanks voted for Billy's wife. So all you conservatives, don't get too smug. The American people do not elect the POTUS. In most cases if the Electoral College felt it was in the better interest of the US to have someone of their choosing as POTUS, there is little you could do about it.

Even with a Democrat majority every where. The smaller states will never get rid of the Electoral College without some other way of increasing their say in things.
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It was a very slim majority and it reflected not the nation but the People's Republic of California which is absolutely dominated by just one party...

You subtract the Cali votes and Trump's win is Yu-u-u-u-u-ge!


:D ;) ;)
 
The number of signers is pretty impressive.

It's not like it's a boycott of Trump's daughter's QVC store. That would be useless.
 
I've said for years the electoral college is anti-democratic. An institution set up to favour slave owning states is somewhat anachronistic.
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
It was a very slim majority and it reflected not the nation but the People's Republic of California which is absolutely dominated by just one party...

You subtract the Cali votes and Trump's win is Yu-u-u-u-u-ge!


:D ;) ;)
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Last time I checked California was a part of the US of A. And if you took Texas out the Hillary would have won even more of the vote. Cherry pick your numbers all you want. Billy's wife won the majority of the voters.

Look at Trumps Tweets when even he expected to lose.

I can understand a system that gives a bigger voice to smaller states. All in the name of the greater good and national unity. But when a system was devised because the founding fathers did not trust the unwashed masses to make the right decision. That's dumb. And undemocratic. But the again the Democrats lost.
 
Hard_Rom said:
Last time I checked California was a part of the US of A. And if you took Texas out the Hillary would have won even more of the vote. Cherry pick your numbers all you want. Billy's wife won the majority of the voters.

Look at Trumps Tweets when even he expected to lose.

I can understand a system that gives a bigger voice to smaller states. All in the name of the greater good and national unity. But when a system was devised because the founding fathers did not trust the unwashed masses to make the right decision. That's dumb. And undemocratic. But the again the Democrats lost;).
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Those Trump tweets are from 2012. ;)
 
Aglaopheme said:
Those Trump tweets are from 2012. ;)
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They called the 2012 race for Obama when he was still behind in the popular vote, hence the dumbbell's anger. Obama ended up winning easily, of course, once the Pacific coast came in.


This is the epitome of a stupid and futile gesture. The time to deal with the Electoral College was before the election, not after. A lot of people convinced themselves that 2000 was a fluke, because it had been 112 years since it had happened. But it's possible any time you get a year where a big state is decided by a very small margin, let alone four of them like this year.

The Popular Vote Compact (states agreeing that their electoral votes will go to the winner of the national popular vote) is the most likely way for this to get changed. But the likelihood is that it won't be changed until the first time Republicans are on the screwed end of the popular/electoral vote split, something that has never once happened. Why would the GOP, currently in control of pretty much everything in a 50/50 country, want to change a system that obviously works for them?
 
Hard_Rom said:
I can understand a system that gives a bigger voice to smaller states. All in the name of the greater good and national unity. But when a system was devised because the founding fathers did not trust the unwashed masses to make the right decision. That's dumb. And undemocratic. But the again the Democrats lost.
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I was in a discussion on Facebook the other day with people saying that exact same thing: "We need the Electoral College, because otherwise, the big states will get their way on everything!"

This doesn't make much sense, for two reasons. First, not all the "big states" vote the same way. The two biggest are California and Texas. Point made.

The second is that the response begs the question. Why shouldn't the majority win?

Back when I was in school, when you had to be intimately familiar with the life of Benjamin Harrison to even realize you could win the popular vote and lose an election, I had to do a report on the arguments for and against the Electoral College, and then offer my own opinion. I summarized the pros and cons, and came up with a conclusion: all the arguments why the Electoral College is a good thing are subordinate to the risk that the person who gets the second-most votes might actually become president. I haven't changed my mind on that.
 
Wrong Element said:
They called the 2012 race for Obama when he was still behind in the popular vote, hence the dumbbell's anger. Obama ended up winning easily, of course, once the Pacific coast came in.


This is the epitome of a stupid and futile gesture. The time to deal with the Electoral College was before the election, not after. A lot of people convinced themselves that 2000 was a fluke, because it had been 112 years since it had happened. But it's possible any time you get a year where a big state is decided by a very small margin, let alone four of them like this year.

The Popular Vote Compact (states agreeing that their electoral votes will go to the winner of the national popular vote) is the most likely way for this to get changed. But the likelihood is that it won't be changed until the first time Republicans are on the screwed end of the popular/electoral vote split, something that has never once happened. Why would the GOP, currently in control of pretty much everything in a 50/50 country, want to change a system that obviously works for them?
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Of course they won't change it. Nor will the get
money out of politics of fix the rigged gerrymandering. They will gut more early voting and expand voter ID, we'll try, wherever they are able.
 
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