BDS: humanitarian or anti-semitism dressed up as justice warrior?

[snugglestruggle]

I really don't have patience for any GB progressive shenanigans.

Go read the article again, and read my previous comments if you want to engage me in a discussion.

To engage in a discussion you must first be able to disagree with another persons opinion without resorting to nana nana boo boo, Trump sucks or the ever popular blame it on Bush.

 

[underguy1]

Maybe if Pali's would learn to play nice with their neighbors, they could move forward in the world. Liberals, never met a terrorist they didn't like.

Racist scumbag.

 

[underguy1]

And she's also just as much of a warmonger as Obama and her husband were (disregarding the millions of civilian lives lost in the wars in Asia and the Middle East).

Yet the progressives keep idealising her and wanting her as a president, while singing her hypochritical kumbaia and her false anti-discriminatory stance on muslims.


The irony in all those contradictions in the GB progressive logic is actually funny.

What progressives are you referring to?

None of your play enemies are progressives. They're all right wingers voting for Hillary.

And you're a right wing idiot with them.

 

[underguy1]

As too number four, please not that she has taken the Zionist track, Israel is a government, so all the violence is on them. They're firing rockets into Gaza, they're building tunnels for terror, they're stealing all of the aid and money from the mouths of the Palestinians...,

Not that there's any such fucking thing as a Palestinian, most of them were Jordanians after they were Ottomans.

The BDS people hold everyone but the Jews as innocent fucking bystanders.

You are absolute filth. And a complete moron.

 

[hashtag45]

To engage in a discussion you must first be able to disagree with another persons opinion without resorting to nana nana boo boo, Trump sucks or the ever popular blame it on Bush.

True lol
I used to get easily annoyed by their intransigence and misinterpretations. But, as you suggested, I came to realize that their attitudes can actually be funny, once one starts to focus on the humorous side of things.
(minus RobDownSouth of course, since it's hard to see any funny in His attacks),

What progressives are you referring to?
None of your play enemies are progressives. They're all right wingers voting for Hillary.
And you're a right wing idiot with them.

1.Thanks for upgrading me from "cum stain and arepsewipe".

2.If you don't agree with me 100%, then you're a racist or a R-winger.
Now where did I hear that before?

 

[underguy1]

True lol
I used to get easily annoyed by their intransigence and misinterpretations. But, as you suggested, I came to realize that their attitudes can actually be funny, once one starts to focus on the humorous side of things.
(minus RobDownSouth of course, since it's hard to see any funny in His attacks),



1.Thanks for upgrading me from "cum stain and arepsewipe".

2.If you don't agree with me 100%, then you're a racist or a R-winger.
Now where did I hear that before?

You're welcome to disagree with me. But if you do so in a racist or right wing way you will be called on it.

Your "arguing" style is exactly that deployed by the wingnuts.

You should stop telling people what they think before they've said it.

Like your right wing friends, you'll never get it right.

 

[hashtag45]

1.You're welcome to disagree with me. But if you do so in a racist or right wing way you will be called on it.
Your "arguing" style is exactly that deployed by the wingnuts.

2.You should stop telling people what they think before they've said it.

Like your right wing friends, you'll never get it right.

While I partially agree with what you said (only with no.2 and definitely not with no.1),
ever looked in the mirror, underguy?
Now how do you think Your style of arguing comes across?

 

[hashtag45]

Quick questions for you underguy, since imo these are the main reasons that you labelled me as being a"racist".
And please don't employ the same avoidance and blaming tactics that you often use:


1.Do you think that the State of Israel is legitimate and should continue to exist?
Or not?


2. What do you think of the fact that, in the 21st century, some muslim women are still required to wear hijabs and burkas in public, even on hot days and if they don't like it? Whereas no muslim men are required to wear burkas or hijabs?
(Same goes for their jewish counterparts)

I personally find these requirements to be discriminatory of and persecutory of women.
Do you?



Honestly. That attitude on your part (avoiding the topic by diverting and calling people "racists") is a red flag for me, and makes me wonder whether you're both anti-semitic, and you think that women are beneath men.
.

 

[underguy1]

While I partially agree with what you said (only with no.2 and definitely not with no.1),
ever looked in the mirror, underguy?
Now how do you think Your style of arguing comes across?

This will sound arrogant but there's no way to say it that won't.

You have no idea of what I think, my politics, the economics involved, the social science, the linguistics, the epistemology and the nuance that comes from where I came and what I've done.

You and your cronies here are primarily concerned with getting one up on those you see as being on a different team. And most of you don't understand what your team stands for anyway, whether Liberal or Conservative.

Nearly all of you believe in a brand or other of PR that conforms to your tastes, however your tastes were formed.

You're pretty much all i thrall to the money powers i.e the financial capitalists that really rule you.

There's different flavours but it all amounts to the same thing.

More war and abject poverty abroad, less social security, declining living standards for the many, less social mobility.

And it doesn't matter which team you defend. They all are giving bad outcomes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

To engage in a discussion you must first be able to disagree with another persons opinion without resorting to nana nana boo boo, Trump sucks or the ever popular blame it on Bush.

Racist scumbag.

tee hee

tee hee

Right on cue!

Bring on the clowns, I love the clowns!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You are absolute filth. And a complete moron.

There we have it, the velvet-gloved fist that is the Left and the AV says it all...


My way, or violence! But we're not right-wingers, we're just RIGHT!


I was in the Wright church,
But it musta been the wrong pew!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You're welcome to disagree with me. But if you do so in a racist or right wing way you will be called on it.

Your "arguing" style is exactly that deployed by the wingnuts.

You should stop telling people what they think before they've said it.

Like your right wing friends, you'll never get it right.

While I partially agree with what you said (only with no.2 and definitely not with no.1),
ever looked in the mirror, underguy?
Now how do you think Your style of arguing comes across?

Everything this guy does not believe is right wing, which means that if you do not parrot him and say, yes Mr. frustrated faux intellectual, I agree with you, then you are a right-winger.

Can you imagine that?

You, Izzy and me are all in the same boat. It's almost like 99% of the world is right-wingers.

 

[hashtag45]

More deflections and tangential answers, and no answers to my two questions. Deja vu.


1.Whilst I can certainly understand why you wouldn't answer question. no. 1(legitimacy of Israel)
(I agree with the fact that the Israel - Palestinians issue is too complicated, and there have been too many human rights violations against palestinians, on Israel's part for people to even consider a yes or no answer to this question),

2.There's no reasonable justification for refusing to answer question no. 2 (the burkas /hijabs requirement)

Because I commented in the past that I find the "burka /hijab" requirement by certain muslim fundamentalists to be misogynistic (just as I find other practices by jews and christian fundamentalists to be misogynistic too).

Which led to attacks and acvusations that I'm "a racist" on your part.
Yet every time I ask you, in response to your "racism" accusations to tell me your opinion about those requirements, you refuse to engage.


It's always a one way street with you, isn't it?.
You're allowed to misinterpret my (and others') intentions and to call me "a racist"
yet you elect yourself as a moral authority and refuse to be similarly challenged.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Post #84 is a classic and the proof of everything that I have been saying about this particular bucketful of hate.


He aspires to be a genius and lashes out in anger upon discovering that no one else sees it. He's worse than Mercury14 and I never, ever thought that that would be possible on this planet...

 

[hashtag45]

Everything this guy does not believe is right wing, which means that if you do not parrot him and say, yes Mr. frustrated faux intellectual, I agree with you, then you are a right-winger.

Can you imagine that?

You, Izzy and me are all in the same boat. It's almost like 99% of the world is right-wingers.

While I can see why he gets emotional about certain topics (one can't dispute the fact that over the last years many muslims have experienced unbelievable atrocities and so on)

I'm starting to get a sense that he's more motivated by hatred of americans and jews, and much less by empathy for the suffering of muslims.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

While I can see why he gets emotional about certain topics (one can't dispute the fact that over the last years many muslims have experienced unbelievable atrocities and so on)

I'm starting to get a sense that he's more motivated by hatred of americans and jews, and much less by empathy for the suffering of muslims.

I cannot dispute that. But if you examine the nature of the atrocities, the worst are the ones they do to themselves via the main schism and in Gaza and the West Bank, most all of them are done to them by the Muslims who have seized control, refuse to live in Peace and are more concerned with doing things to the Jews than they are concerned about doing things for their people. We keep pouring money into that cesspool and they do is use it to kill Jews.

If you are an Arab Muslim, you would rather live in Israel than under the rule of Islam in the West Bank and Gaza because those people are fucking animals; feral people guided by hate, a hate that the Left keeps stoking in the same manner that they keep stoking the #BLM movement because in crises and violence, they have a tool to control masses of people. This is what motivates our good buddy here. If he can be a part of eliminating Israel, then he can abrogate human nature and bring peace to the region. That is delusion! Even where Israel has no power, the Islamic versions of underwearguy keep blowing each other up in the name of religious nuances!

 

[hashtag45]

I often say bad things about american politicians (many of whom are scum and psychopaths and have blood on their hands)
but in contrast to underguy's attitude, I have a fondness for and admire american laypeople.

Uynderguy seems to equate the two. "If your politicians are scum and if they manipulated you into believing they are good people, then you are scum too."

He doesn't seem to understand that most power structures in the world favour intelligent psychopaths who are also very persuasive, and masters at pluling the wool over the eyes of well intended and inteligent people.

This is what motivates our good buddy here. If he can be a part of eliminating Israel, then he can abrogate human nature and bring peace to the region.

I'm starting to suspect that too

I cannot dispute that. But if you examine the nature of the atrocities, the worst are the ones they do to themselves via the main schism and in Gaza and the West Bank, most all of them are done to them by the Muslims who have seized control, refuse to live in Peace and are more concerned with doing things to the Jews than they are concerned about doing things for their people. We keep pouring money into that cesspool and they do is use it to kill Jews.

If you are an Arab Muslim, you would rather live in Israel than under the rule of Islam in the West Bank and Gaza because those people are fucking animals; feral people guided by hate, a hate that the Left keeps stoking in the same manner that they keep stoking the #BLM movement because in crises and violence, they have a tool to control masses of people!

I can't comment on that yet, because as I said & obvious from my posts I always sucked at history.
But interesting things; I'll read about them tonight and come back to you after that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I often say bad things about american politicians (many of whom are scum and psychopaths and have blood on their hands)
but in contrast to underguy's attitude, I have a fondness for and admire american laypeople.

Uynderguy seems to equate the two. "If your politicians are scum and if they manipulated you into believing they are good people, then you are scum too."

He doesn't seem to understand that most power structures in the world favour intelligent psychopaths who are also very persuasive, and masters at pluling the wool over the eyes of well intended and inteligent people.

He's a provincial.

He understands nothing but his inner circle...

And, increasingly, I'm beginning to suspect that it is a circle of one bolstered by the voices in his head.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

History is a completely subjective discipline.


There is a big difference to what I was taught of history compared to what some of my students are being taught. I have three copies of Zinn's history of the US given to me by students trying to get my mind right. When he was alive (and trust me, he reads like underwearguy) all of the intellectual class went out of their way to deny that he was a communist.

Once he died and we saw his FBI files and other things hidden from us, yes, he was a Communist who hated the United States. That is why his "scholarship," much like underwearguy's posts, read like an indictment of Western Culture.

Once they destroy it, they have no real idea of what they are going to replace it with since they are all ivory-tower dreamers with unique dreams, then they will simply starve with the rest of us having acquired no real individual skills other than ornamental gadflies...

 

[hashtag45]

Btw. I'm in the mood for a humble brag.
I was good at math too.
Not as good as a couple of my cousins who routinely won all sorts of competitions, but I made the nationals twice.
Which partly explains my inflated sense of self importance here and why I don't give a shit about playing or being seen as the GB village idiot

 

[underguy1]

You're truly pathetic hash brown.

I understand now why your stalkers stalk you.

 

[hashtag45]

You're truly pathetic hash brown.

I understand now why your stalkers stalk you.

Because you often fantasize about me engaging in butt sex too?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Btw. I'm in the mood for a humble brag.
I was good at math too.
Not as good as a couple of my cousins who routinely won all sorts of competitions, but I made the nationals twice.
Which partly explains my inflated sense of self importance here and why I don't give a shit about playing or being seen as the GB village idiot

I wasn't. At all. That is why it became my double major. It was part of my understanding from the martial arts; you do not avoid that which you are weak at, you polish it relentlessly. Self-defense, self-actualization, and self-confidence do not come from doing only that which you are good at. Most of us are right-handed. I realized therefore that I needed to drill my left hand/foot techniques twice as often as my right. In fact, I quickly realized that all I had to do was learn a skill from the southpaw side of my body and the right half would acquire it by osmosis.

Programming, on the other hand, came to me as natural as breathing. Being paid to solve puzzles; what a joyful life that was!

 

[underguy1]

Because you often fantasize about me engaging in butt sex too?

Bye, you needy retard.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Bye, you needy retard.

Redneck Translation: I'll be back. Almost everyone else has put me on ignore by now...

... mama always said, I lacked the "pe-pe-pe-people skillz."