The Revolution

[LincolnDuncan]

When Trump loses and the revolution begins, who will you kill first?

 

[Ms_Ann]

When Trump loses and the revolution begins, who will you kill first?

I just don't know where to begin?

Alphabetically?

 

[Hard_Rom]

The US was started by revolutionaries. Won't another revolution be by counter-revolutionaries? Soviets always had lots to say about counter-revolutionaries. Many tyrants who emerged fro, revolutionary groups in Africa after the demise of colonialism like to jail political opponents.

How about adding how you would kill them. Usually up against the wall or strung up from lampposts as an example to others.

Would it be a revolution, counter revolution or another civil war?

Newt Gingrich would be my first choice to string up from a lamppost.

Bloody Yanks. Revolted in 1776 and have been revolting ever since.

 

[Ms_Ann]

The US was started by revolutionaries. Won't another revolution be by counter-revolutionaries? Soviets always had lots to say about counter-revolutionaries. Many tyrants who emerged fro, revolutionary groups in Africa after the demise of colonialism like to jail political opponents.

How about adding how you would kill them. Usually up against the wall or strung up from lampposts as an example to others.

Would it be a revolution, counter revolution or another civil war?

Newt Gingrich would be my first choice to string up from a lamppost.

Bloody Yanks. Revolted in 1776 and have been revolting ever since.

Aren't all revolutions "counter"???
Revolting in favor of something seems counter-productive.

 

[Not Normal]

Its been my experience that those who talk big and loud NEVER actually do anything. I'm not at all worried about an Amerikan Revolution.

 

[Ms_Ann]

Its been my experience that those who talk big and loud NEVER actually do anything. I'm not at all worried about an Amerikan Revolution.

I know. People worry too much about the dumbest things. Though, in general, the ties that bind this fragile thing we like to call "civilized society" are extremely tenuous.

 

[Not Normal]

I know. People worry too much about the dumbest things. Though, in general, the ties that bind this fragile thing we like to call "civilized society" are extremely tenuous.

I'm not sure I'd call society civilized.

 

[Ms_Ann]

I'm not sure I'd call society civilized.

A civilized society is a lot more civil than one that isn't.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Is anyone expecting an organized revolution?

 

[Ms_Ann]

Is anyone expecting an organized revolution?

There are pockets of revolution going on right now...if you look around.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

There are pockets of revolution going on right now...if you look around.

Yes, I agree. But now you have a presidential candidate from a major political party calling for revolution. I expect at least an increase of assaults on minorities as well as some organized revolutionary activities.

 

[Ms_Ann]

Yes, I agree. But now you have a presidential candidate from a major political party calling for revolution. I expect at least an increase of assaults on minorities as well as some organized revolutionary activities.

Aren't most revolutions started by the poor? That's already going on. They tend to be poorly organized tho.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

The dum fuck nigger thugs go first.

The newspapers go 2nd.

Main stream media dies 3rd.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Aren't most revolutions started by the poor? That's already going on. They tend to be poorly organized tho.

No. The self employed start revolutions.

 

[Hypoxia]

Experience of a number of successful revolutions, according to Robt Heinlein, shows that after the victory, those purged include... the revolutionaries. Say you're the leader. Once you've won power, you don't want pesky militants around to maybe revolt against you, too. Much safer to send your underlings to safe and useless, or reliably dangerous, posts and assignments. Keep them away from actual power. Then, when convenient, let them be imprisoned or offed. That's how the Russian revolution and the Nazi takeover evolved. Or you can just send them to the executioner as in the cannibalistic French revolution. (Cannibal, because it devoured its own leaders.)

How would a Trompian revolution work? He's no strategist, so some bright general would lead the insurrection. After victory, would that general be satisfied with a thank-you? Or would she keep drugged Tromp as a neutered figurehead, or denounce and purge him as an enemy of 'true' revolution? Beware the revolution -- you might win.

The revolution will not be digitized.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

The dum fuck nigger thugs go first.

The newspapers go 2nd.

Main stream media dies 3rd.

Do you have a plan or do you expect to just kill indiscriminately in black communities?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Aren't most revolutions started by the poor? That's already going on. They tend to be poorly organized tho.

Although unorganized they usually work. Nothing scares the ruling classes more than thousands of peasants in revolt. The entire US armed forces are dwarfed by the population of New York city. The ruling class only makes up 1%. Add a few middle class as revolution leaders and out goes the ruling class. And with the guns in the hands of many US citizens the peasant can leave their pitchforks and scythes at home.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Although unorganized they usually work. Nothing scares the ruling classes more than thousands of peasants in revolt. The entire US armed forces are dwarfed by the population of New York city. The ruling class only makes up 1%. Add a few middle class as revolution leaders and out goes the ruling class. And with the guns in the hands of many US citizens the peasant can leave their pitchforks and scythes at home.

But, do you expect that to happen?

 

[Hard_Rom]

But, do you expect that to happen?

Hell no! Trump doesn't have enough support to win an election let alone the popular support to conduct a successful revolution. Best a radical Tromper can hope for is some sort of insurgency. This could lay the ground work for perhaps a revolution. I believe Heinlein says that no revolution has won in the face of a strong government. I believe you need a power vacuum to succeed.

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a good blueprint for revolution.

Notice in the Kansas militia incident there was an undercover FBI agent in on it. Heinlein talks about how many members of the revolution would be police agents.

Britain was involved in European affairs at the time or else it would have descended on the US and strung up a few thousand radicals as they did in Scotland in '45. Without French military aid and a few timely mistakes by British authorities the rebellion would have failed.

Most revolutions only seem to replace those at the top with new faces. Not much changes.

American revolutionists were fighting for their rights a Englishman. A British government that tried to tax without representation would have had the primary heads of government displayed over the gates of London.

No conventional army has ever beaten an unconventional one which has the support of the people.

A revolution in the US would impede the sale of new iPhones. That the citizenry will not put up with.

Here are a few resources, history and revolutionary theory to help.

http://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution

http://socialistworker.org/2010/10/14/marxs-theory-of-revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_and_tactics_of_guerrilla_warfare

Urban guerilla warfare
http://www.mccdc.marines.mil/Portal...rban Guerrilla - Carlos Marighella (1969).pdf

The Anarchist Cookbook
http://bnrg.cs.berkeley.edu/~randy/Courses/CS39K.S13/anarchistcookbook2000.pdf

 

[Hypoxia]

Aren't most revolutions started by the poor? That's already going on. They tend to be poorly organized tho.

I just now dug out my old copy of World Atlas of Revolutions. No, most revs aren't started by the poor. The US rev was quite middle- and upper-class, led by those feeling dissed by the colonial power structure. The French and Russian revs, as many others, fed on popular resentments, but were started by more educated and organized players. The revolution needs popular support, sure, or at least not much serious popular opposition.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Hell no! Trump doesn't have enough support to win an election let alone the popular support to conduct a successful revolution. Best a radical Tromper can hope for is some sort of insurgency. This could lay the ground work for perhaps a revolution. I believe Heinlein says that no revolution has won in the face of a strong government. I believe you need a power vacuum to succeed.

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a good blueprint for revolution.

Notice in the Kansas militia incident there was an undercover FBI agent in on it. Heinlein talks about how many members of the revolution would be police agents.

Britain was involved in European affairs at the time or else it would have descended on the US and strung up a few thousand radicals as they did in Scotland in '45. Without French military aid and a few timely mistakes by British authorities the rebellion would have failed.

Most revolutions only seem to replace those at the top with new faces. Not much changes.

American revolutionists were fighting for their rights a Englishman. A British government that tried to tax without representation would have had the primary heads of government displayed over the gates of London.

No conventional army has ever beaten an unconventional one which has the support of the people.

A revolution in the US would impede the sale of new iPhones. That the citizenry will not put up with.

Here are a few resources, history and revolutionary theory to help.

http://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution

http://socialistworker.org/2010/10/14/marxs-theory-of-revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_and_tactics_of_guerrilla_warfare

Urban guerilla warfare
http://www.mccdc.marines.mil/Portal...rban Guerrilla - Carlos Marighella (1969).pdf

The Anarchist Cookbook
http://bnrg.cs.berkeley.edu/~randy/Courses/CS39K.S13/anarchistcookbook2000.pdf

I don't expect Trump to lead anything. He never gets his hands dirty. However, those on the far right who want revolution have been fermenting since long before Trump decided to run for emperor.

 

[underguy1]

The world would be a much better place if the Americans overthrew their ruling class.

 

[eyerlives]

When Trump loses and the revolution begins, who will you kill first?

With almost 50 million innocents already intentionally and tortuously killed by progressives...

..."first" quick actually applying a long, long time ago.



BTW, a revolutionary heads-up to all you PPsoSS:

One of your most collectively egregious, fatal faults is your native inability to see anything and anyone in any other way but through your practical blindness of wholesale relativism and chronic generalization.

Keep fantasizing Timothy McVeighs and Clive Bundys et al represent anything or anyone else but who and what they actually are: just simple malcontent lemmings, veritable branches of the same collective tree you hang from, the same wannabe tree where offensive action is "justified" according to whatever man-made interpretation of what's "tolerant" and "open-minded" and "equal" happen to be the flavors of whatever progressive day it might be.

All humans only face two options:

Get right with God...

...or die.

Choose wisely, grasshoppers.

 

[BotanyBoy]

There won't be any fuckin' revolution.....fucking pussies wont' get out and vote for him what makes you think people are going to kill their friends and family for him?


Nobody is going to do shit.

We will elect HRC and continue our journey down the toilet.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I don't expect Trump to lead anything. He never gets his hands dirty. However, those on the far right who want revolution have been fermenting since long before Trump decided to run for emperor.

And in the 60s it was the radical left suggesting revolution. How did that turn out? In fact there may have been a backlash against the radical left. I suspect there could be a similar backlash against a radical right if they start to get violent.

http://www.history.com/topics/1970s