Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[SgtSpiderMan]

QUESTION ASKED: Is Hillary In Danger of Pulling a Dukakis?

Like Dukakis, she not only fancies herself the candidate of careful, deliberate reason, she’s quite pleased with herself for it—a prideful trap. If asked how she would react to killers attacking Americans, Clinton will want to contrast herself with her loose-cannon opponent. She will want to show off her mastery of the policy details. She will want to demonstrate her judicious and scrupulous commitment to the legalistic niceties. She will want to detail her experience in dealing with pressing international problems. And along the technocratic way, she may forget to mention, and fail to convey, that terrorism is heinous.

They’re both terrible at presidential politicking, but Dukakis carried a lot less baggage.

This isn't your writing.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/is-hillary-in-danger-of-pulling-a-dukakis/article/2004437

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You haven't debunked shit.

You come up with that top tier federal office that Trump abused yet? Can you cite the federal crimes he committed that compromised national security?

Or are you still being a shill for Clinton pushing that "He did the same thing she did." lie???

Yes you are aren't you??

Keep chugging that Kool-Aid sawwent!

I certainly did. You tried to pass off your opinion as a fact, you were wrong.

He certainly did do the same thing people have accused Hillary of, he used his "charity" to benefit from personally.

Like I asked days ago, please find one statement where I said anything nice about HRC in my slightly over a decade tenure on this board.

You've gone loony if you're going to accuse someone of saying both major party candidates are bad as being an HRC shill.

You've got some deep issues you need to deal with.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I certainly did. You tried to pass off your opinion as a fact, you were wrong.

You were the one with the opinion.

You tried claiming bribing an official was the same thing as being the official abusing their office.

And it's still not the same thing.

certainly did do the same thing people have accused Hillary of, he used his "charity" to benefit from personally.

That wasn't even part of our earlier discussion where you tried claiming Trumps bribery was the same as Clinton whoring the powers of her offices out.

Nice try though slinking back after a few days out running around picking out new goal posts to run about with.

got some deep issues you need to deal with.

Nice follow up with personal insults....very mature, adds much credence.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I've always thought of politician as a job title.

If you hold an elected office you're a politician, if you're appointed you're a bureaucrat, if you're heavily or even professionally involved with politics and not an office holder then you're a politico/adviser/aid/campaign manager/commentator/lobbyist etc. There are different titles describing the types of involvement.

Carters is a president, and Ben Carson is a failed candidate. Neither are politicians.



I don't think so, otherwise we wouldn't give them titles that aren't "politician".

Fair enough. Though I personally think you are being a bit narrow. I don't think anybody thinks that Bill is anything but a politician. I would probably go with once you've won it's what you are forever.

But we don't give them the job title of "politician" to the best of my knowledge no such job exists. We give the the title "Mayor, Representative, Secretary of State, President" so on and so forth. But carry on, wasn't trying to start an argument just wanted a teeny bit of clarity.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You were the one with the opinion.

I've never claimed otherwise, you're the one who is having a great deal of difficulty separating your opinions from actual facts.

You tried claiming bribing an official was the same thing as being the official abusing their office.

And it's still not the same thing.

Wrong again. I never tried to claim that, I did claim that. I personally believe that the person doing the bribing & the person accepting the bribe are both in the wrong, and in the eyes of the law, both are illegal. If you believe differently that's great, but you need to understand that's YOUR opinion.

That wasn't even part of our earlier discussion where you tried claiming Trumps bribery was the same as Clinton whoring the powers of her offices out.

I never claimed it was part of our earlier discussing and again, I never tried to claim that, I did claim that. The conversation had turned to Trump using his charity as his own personal slush fund, one need not be a politician to do that. You're the one who felt the need to go back to a conversation we had over a week ago.

Nice try though slinking back after a few days out running around picking out new goal posts to run about with.

I haven't moved my goalposts, I think both major party candidates are in the wrong, and the more we learn about them the more that seems to be true.

Nice follow up with personal insults....very mature, adds much credence.

That's not an insult, that's me telling you that you need some help to deal with whatever you have going on. Again, I never said one candidate is better than the other and I've said they're both bad, but you immediately called me a shill, I'm guessing shill isn't a personal insult to you. Saying that someone is drinking Kool-Aid isn't a personal insult to you. Seriously dude, think about what you've been saying in this thread.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Fair enough. Though I personally think you are being a bit narrow. I don't think anybody thinks that Bill is anything but a politician. I would probably go with once you've won it's what you are forever.

But we don't give them the job title of "politician" to the best of my knowledge no such job exists. We give the the title "Mayor, Representative, Secretary of State, President" so on and so forth. But carry on, wasn't trying to start an argument just wanted a teeny bit of clarity.

You're right we do give them specific titles and no such title exists.

Kinda like nobody is called "bureaucrat" but secretary/director/chairdouche etc.

So a classification of government officials of the elected variety....as opposed to the appointed bureaucrats.

Bill is in spirit, that's why he's a speaker...but he wields no real power beyond being connected to those who do. I'd give ya once you win you are forever.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I've never claimed otherwise, you're the one who is having a great deal of difficulty separating your opinions from actual facts.

Really? What opinion exactly am I having difficulty separating from fact?

I never tried to claim that, I did claim that.

And...
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wrng.gif

I personally believe that the person doing the bribing & the person accepting the bribe are both in the wrong, and in the eyes of the law, both are illegal.

I agree, they are both wrong and illegal, but that's irrelevant to the fact that they are not the same thing. That's why they are considered different crimes and carry both different names and charges.

Bribery=/=corruption.

Attempted murder =/= assault and battery.

Sexual harassment =/= rape.

Crime classifications change depend on the circumstances, and holding a position of authority is a circumstance changer.

If you believe differently that's great, but you need to understand that's YOUR opinion.

I don't believe differently.

 

[xbb]

If Trump wins the election, who will be the MVP of his win?????????


of course that is after BUSYBODY who endorsed him from point A!


I know the answer

I bet YOU dont

 

[phrodeau]

One of the electoral college members in Ohio has just quit over a dumbass comment she made in a recent interview.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...mp-campaign-chair-no_racism-before-obama.html

The Mahoning County chair for Donald Trump's campaign sparked outrage after telling a reporter that there was no racism until Barack Obama became president and calling the Black Lives Matter movement "a stupid waste of time."

"I don't think there was any racism until Obama got elected," Miller told a Guardian reporter for the England-based paper. The publication is doing a series on the U.S. election called Anywhere but Washington.

“If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault. You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”

She has been replaced by a stand-by elector. If they run out of Republican stand-by electors, it could spell trouble in the unlikely chance that Trump will take Ohio.

 

[RoryN]

One of the electoral college members in Ohio has just quit over a dumbass comment she made in a recent interview

Good to see there are still consequences for being a moronic asshole.

 

[xbb]

she was 100% right

 

[RoryN]

she was 100% right

If she had been, she would still have a job.

Now, she doesn't - just like you.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

One of the electoral college members in Ohio has just quit over a dumbass comment she made in a recent interview.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...mp-campaign-chair-no_racism-before-obama.html


She has been replaced by a stand-by elector. If they run out of Republican stand-by electors, it could spell trouble in the unlikely chance that Trump will take Ohio.

Slightly related.

"The grievance in their mind is that the animus, the anger -- they hate white people, because white people are successful and they're not," Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican, said on the BBC's "Newsnight." "I mean, yes, it is, it is a welfare state. We have spent trillions of dollars on welfare, where we put people in bondage so that they cannot be all that they're capable of being."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/politics/robert-pittenger-north-carolina-charlotte-protests/index.html

 

[Aglaopheme]

If Trump wins the election, who will be the MVP of his win?????????


of course that is after BUSYBODY who endorsed him from point A!


I know the answer

I bet YOU dont

Yeah

 

[phrodeau]

100% right winger.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Really? What opinion exactly am I having difficulty separating from fact?

The one I pointed out over a week ago, who has more power is your personal belief.

And...
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wrng.gif

Ok, so I'm wrong and I didn't claim that? Then I really don't see what you're going on about.

I agree, they are both wrong and illegal, but that's irrelevant to the fact that they are not the same thing. That's why they are considered different crimes and carry both different names and charges.

You'll have to refresh my memory, I actually said they're the same thing, or I said Trump shouldn't escape scrutiny for bribing public officials while HRC faces scrutiny for accepting bribes?

Bribery=/=corruption.

Attempted murder =/= assault and battery.

Sexual harassment =/= rape.

Crime classifications change depend on the circumstances, and holding a position of authority is a circumstance changer.



I don't believe differently.

You're comparing unlike things. In the case of bribery all parties agreed to participate in an illegal act. In your other two cases there's a party who did something illegal and a victim.

I'm not so sure you know what you believe.

 

[Disgustipated]

Character counts

http://i.imgur.com/5TRTZdu.jpg

 

[xbb]

Yeah

Intended to shake him up

It worked

 

[xbb]

http://i.imgur.com/5TRTZdu.jpg

yeah, NIGGER wont hold the umbrella for ColoredCunt

 

[xbb]

http://i.imgur.com/5TRTZdu.jpg

http://patterico.com/files/2013/05/Obama-Umbrella.pngcharacter counts

NIGGER doesn't have it

 

[xbb]

NIGGER is too STUPID to hold an umbrella

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2147818/thumbs/o-OBAMA-UMBRELLA-FAIL-570.jpg

 

[Disgustipated]

Intended to shake him up

It worked

yeah, NIGGER wont hold the umbrella for ColoredCunt

http://patterico.com/files/2013/05/Obama-Umbrella.pngcharacter counts

NIGGER doesn't have it

NIGGER is too STUPID to hold an umbrella

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2147818/thumbs/o-OBAMA-UMBRELLA-FAIL-570.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GT2Laz2.jpg

 

[Super-Surprise]

http://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/allah-seed_large.jpg

 

[BotanyBoy]

The one I pointed out over a week ago, who has more power is your personal belief.

No it's not.

Senators and Secretaries of Whatever the fuck both hold considerably more power within the US Federal Government than ANY civilian or military personnel.

POTUS, Congress, SCOTUS are the top 3 tiers of the power cake as far as authority of force in this country go.

That is an IRREFUTABLE, well documented, not even up for debate FACT.

Ok, so I'm wrong and I didn't claim that? Then I really don't see what you're going on about.

You'll have to refresh my memory, I actually said they're the same thing, or I said Trump shouldn't escape scrutiny for bribing public officials while HRC faces scrutiny for accepting bribes?

You said they're the same thing and you stood behind it repeatedly.

You're comparing unlike things. In the case of bribery all parties agreed to participate in an illegal act. In your other two cases there's a party who did something illegal and a victim.

I'm not so sure you know what you believe.

When public officials, and top appointed officials do something illegal, everyone is the victim, the public is the victim.

Yes....even when Democrats do it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And nobody, yourself included honestly believe it. We all know that our government is bought and paid for by people who don't have official titles and cannot be held responsible for their actions. They have lobbyists. That's why Trump is running so hard on this self funded story (or was originally he's quietly let it die) and why Bernie was running on "get the money out of politics".

Hell isn't your argument against Hillary that she's the Whore of Wallstreet and they'll be the ones in control? Cus I swore that was your argument, and one I only partially disagree with. I think they fund people who like the the things they like, not they find people who disagree with them and then buy them until they do. The latter seems incredibly like holding a tiger by the tail where as the former is just luring a grizzly with honey.