Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

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QUESTION ASKED: Is Hillary In Danger of Pulling a Dukakis?

Like Dukakis, she not only fancies herself the candidate of careful, deliberate reason, she’s quite pleased with herself for it—a prideful trap. If asked how she would react to killers attacking Americans, Clinton will want to contrast herself with her loose-cannon opponent. She will want to show off her mastery of the policy details. She will want to demonstrate her judicious and scrupulous commitment to the legalistic niceties. She will want to detail her experience in dealing with pressing international problems. And along the technocratic way, she may forget to mention, and fail to convey, that terrorism is heinous.

They’re both terrible at presidential politicking, but Dukakis carried a lot less baggage.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In your eyes. Tell that to all of the contractors he has left high and dry, the folks he refused to rent to, the workers he's screwed over.

Back to what I was saying earlier, do you think his character will magically change if he were to be elected?

Those were voluntary engagements ruled by contracts all which when broken left both parties to civil action in court.

What about all the little people the politicians Hillary and Bill screwed over?

Do they not matter more?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That shows what you know about what Trump has said. Here is an exact quote from his convention speech:

"Lastly, and very importantly we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. We don't want them in our country. "


No shit dummy. In the real world, that is known as common fucking sense.

The key word here is "compromised."

Your degree in in English?

Logic?

 

[sr71plt]

Do some reading on their efforts in Haiti and the funneling of donations to her brother and then get back to me. I stopped reading as soon as I discovered your willful ignorance of the workings of the Clinton Foundation.

Dupe is a strong word. I have stated many times and do so again; if you are unwilling to hold her accountable for acts in public office, I don't give a shit about what he did in the private sector. I'm not voting for either one of them. As far as I am concerned she is a corrupt politician (I know, a possible oxymoron). He might be corrupt, but he's not a politician. He's Rodney Dangerfield explaining how the real world works to the smug and arrogant professor of theories...

Yes, I can see how you've let yourself be duped by the con man. Something to do with pea-sized brains, I think.

I don't have to have any feelings about Clinton at all to know what a disaster Trump is.

 

[toubab]

Some of these polls are so corrupt it's almost unbelievable they are treated seriously by anybody. The recent NBC national poll giving Clinton a 6% lead is an example. Looking at the internals, 47% of those polled voted for Obama in 2012, and only 33% voted for Romney. It's remarkable Clinton only came out with a 6% lead from such a grossly unbalanced sample.

 

[sr71plt]

You make her point for her. When he called JEB! low energy, it stuck.

When he dismissed "little" Marco, it was effective.

When he finally engaged "lyin'" Ted,

It worked.



"Corrupt" Hillary hit the nail..., too easy, it tore into the Achilles' Heel of her status as inevitable, invincible and invulnerable, no mortal politician she...

Well, Drumpf really was the family name, so I don't see that you have a point other than blind hatred.

 

[sr71plt]

And none of them will be of the angry white Democrat demographic in the rust-belt states?

You assume that Hillary has a lock on every single Democrat vote?

Not all of them are as partisan as yourself sir.

I haven't assumed anything. Declaring the voting close brings out the Democratic vote. That's simply a known phenomenon and CNN, for one, has been fingered with hyping Trump's numbers for exactly that purpose.

And, yes, Trump is the last person running (including the minor candidates--even the former CIA guy) that I think should be elected, on sanity grounds, so, yes, I'm in favor of the Democratic vote turning out.

 

[sr71plt]

Drumpf is an effective nickname only to the people who employ it.

As I noted. Drumpf isn't a nickname. It was the family's real name. That using it upsets you amusing me.

 

[sr71plt]

4est seemed to be implying that because he is not a politician his actions should be held to a different standard.

And yet, he's been running, as a politician, which is what you are when you are angling for a political office, for president since 2000--about as long as Hillary Clinton has been and before she held a political office.

 

[underguy1]

Dukakis was never supported by the establishment, including the establishment wing of the Democratic Party.

Hillary IS the establishment candidate, especially for establishment Republicans, Democrats, zionists, neocons, neoliberals, Wall St, big ag, big pharma and the military industrial complex.

 

[Wrong Element]

Dukakis was never supported by the establishment, including the establishment wing of the Democratic Party.

Uh, he certainly was. Once Biden and Gary Hart went belly-up before folks even began voting, his main competition in 1988 became Jesse Jackson. His not-so-main competition was Al Gore, who had the bright idea of trying to run as a "conservative Democrat" back when the deep thinkers in punditry still thought they had any significance. Who else were establishment Democrats going to back?

I don't care who the establishment (whatever that even means) is supporting. I tend to put more stock in who the dope down the street with the Confederate flag decal on his truck is supporting, as a guide to what not to do.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yes, I can see how you've let yourself be duped by the con man. Something to do with pea-sized brains, I think.

I don't have to have any feelings about Clinton at all to know what a disaster Trump is.

Now you are acting as a pure partisan pea-brained idiot.

I cannot bring myself to vote for either one of them, but if elected, he is clearly the lesser of two evils...



I see no one took up my challenge on Hillary's brother, Haiti and where the money went.

There are more angles:

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2016/09/19/i-hillary-rodham-clinton-haitis-pay-to-play-ihrc/

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Well, Drumpf really was the family name, so I don't see that you have a point other than blind hatred.

Yes, and when my family arrived our name was change by the people who kept the records.

You see, the hard D and thick accent could easily have been recorded in the new country as a T.

But that still does not make your point, it makes Lady F's because most people only know Trump, so when you dig deep into the memos of the opposition research to use his distant relative's name as a clear and unimpeachable example of his malfeasance, most people just look at it as you're making fun of the name. That is childish, whereas his clever labeling actually had a significant political impact. Yours is just supercilious...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And yet, he's been running, as a politician, which is what you are when you are angling for a political office, for president since 2000--about as long as Hillary Clinton has been and before she held a political office.

Proof?

 

[BotanyBoy]

That shows what you know about what Trump has said. Here is an exact quote from his convention speech:

That shows your level of reading comprehension.

The proposal of temporarily suspending immigration from certain known hostile and or openly anti-American populations until security measures the people who are charged with our security are more comfortable with is hardly a call to stop immigration, certainly not at large. And most would argue is prudence and or common sense.

That's right up there with "Maybe 2A people can stop her." = Trump calling for HRC's assassination.

LOL SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092011/reverse-1317386418_eric_girardi__spinning_top.gif

And yet, he's been running, as a politician, which is what you are when you are angling for a political office, for president since 2000--about as long as Hillary Clinton has been and before she held a political office.

Angling ain't running bubba, nice try to alleviate the Queen of Wall St. of owning her place in society though.

 

[sr71plt]

Proof?

Proof of what? That Trump was floating feelers to run for president in 2000? It's there. Do your own research. That you don't want to admit he toyed running third party then reflects ignorance on your part.

(But since you won't bother to educate yourself because you don't want to know the truth, here, start with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2000)

I'll be waiting for you to come back and declare with a straight face that he wasn't being a national-level politician as of 2000.

That Hillary Clinton hadn't held political office until after 2000? Do you seriously want to challenge that and look as dopey as you are?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Exploratory Committee...

Epic Fail.

Minuscule third party.

Yes. I've heard him talk of it before, in the last two years. I've also heard Hillary denying that she was running so many times since 2000 that the lie became a running joke. But when he finally got serious, it was The Night They Burned Old Dixie Down...

I'm one of those people who have said at every step of the way, that there is no way he can win all through the primaries and the general and then came Labor Day and suddenly, he can win. As the Sword-Saint Musashi said "In the void, there is timing..." and "Keep a near view of distanced things and a distant view of near things."

Now, what were his efforts in 2004, 2008 and 2012?

Was he running then?

Hillary was...

 

[sr71plt]

Sure he was being a politician in all the intervening years. He was playing the political angles and buying and selling political influence. The lie that he hasn't been a politician continuously over the last two decades is just another one of the Big Trump Lies. It's just good that he hasn't actually gotten on a ballot and won anything else. He's managed the ballot this time; just need to see that the majority of the voters don't go for the Big Trump Lies and keep him out of office.

Of course part of me would like to see him win just so his deplorable supporters have that little jolt of recognition when reality sets in and they see that he can't carry through on much of anything he has said he'll do--and that much of what he tries to do will actually be to the left of Clinton--that he's duped them with the Big Trump Lies. Mainly, though, if you think a Republican Congress has stiff armed Obama, you ain't seen nothing yet as they'd do to Trump

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sure he was being a politician in all the intervening years.

Then you should have no problem providing the exact office he healed and what dates as they are public record.

But being the dishonest regressive (D) that you are I'm guessing you can do no such thing.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That does raise an interesting conversation on what is and isn't a politician. Are you a politician only while in office? Making The Bushes NOT politicians. Are you a politician when you politician once you've won and office but forever after? Making Jimmy Carter a politician. Does running for office making you a politician? Making Ben Carson and politician. Are you a politician by consistently engaging in political action even without an elected office?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

"Lastly, and very importantly we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. We don't want them in our country. "


No shit dummy. In the real world, that is known as common fucking sense.

The key word here is "compromised."

Your degree in in English?

Logic?

For the win!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yes, and when my family arrived our name was change by the people who kept the records.

You see, the hard D and thick accent could easily have been recorded in the new country as a T.

But that still does not make your point, it makes Lady F's because most people only know Trump, so when you dig deep into the memos of the opposition research to use his distant relative's name as a clear and unimpeachable example of his malfeasance, most people just look at it as you're making fun of the name. That is childish, whereas his clever labeling actually had a significant political impact. Yours is just supercilious...

"If Jon Stewart is so above it all & legit, why did he change his name from Jonathan Leibowitz? He should be proud of his heritage!"

Trump

 

[BotanyBoy]

That does raise an interesting conversation on what is and isn't a politician. Are you a politician only while in office? Making The Bushes NOT politicians. Are you a politician when you politician once you've won and office but forever after? Making Jimmy Carter a politician. Does running for office making you a politician? Making Ben Carson and politician.

I've always thought of politician as a job title.

If you hold an elected office you're a politician, if you're appointed you're a bureaucrat, if you're heavily or even professionally involved with politics and not an office holder then you're a politico/adviser/aid/campaign manager/commentator/lobbyist etc. There are different titles describing the types of involvement.

Carters is a president, and Ben Carson is a failed candidate. Neither are politicians.

you a politician by consistently engaging in political action even without an elected office

I don't think so, otherwise we wouldn't give them titles that aren't "politician".

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

How exactly does a put down expose all of a persons hypocrisies?

Sounds like some serious deep to me, Level: Legendary.



Did you find out which federal office Trump held and abused???

Or are you still pushing your lies?

Too busy debunking yours.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Too busy debunking yours.

You haven't debunked shit.

You come up with that top tier federal office that Trump abused yet? Can you cite the federal crimes he committed that compromised national security?

Or are you still being a shill for Clinton pushing that "He did the same thing she did." lie???

Yes you are aren't you??

Keep chugging that Kool-Aid sawwent!