Milwaukee

[Christobal]

That was different.


You were appropriating my culture.

Could you please define this and explain why it is wrong?

 

[Saint Peter]

Hey...your use of "Chief" is a bit racist, don't you think?

How 'bout this Choctaw girl come kick your ass?

Do. It.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hey...your use of "Chief" is a bit racist, don't you think?

How 'bout this Choctaw girl come kick your ass?

Not necessary, young squaw! "Chief" in this case is an honorific, and traditionally Americans use the highest honorific even after folks leave office (which is why Fox News calls Sarah Palin "Governor Palin").

4est_4est_Gump (tribal birthname: Dances With Falsehoods) was named an honorary Chief in the HomoNoMo tribe after successfully completing the "gay cure" course at former Congresswoman Michelle Bachman's husband's clinic.

AJ has been #PenisFreeSince1993

 

[Ishmael]

Yes it does have a history.

http://communityjournal.net/racial-history-of-milwaukee-from-1963-to-today/

That is 1/2 a history. How did it all get that way?

In the late 50's and through the 60's the economy was booming. The "boomers" were coming into their own. Detroit couldn't make cars fast enough. Same with refrigerators, etc. The rust belt states as well as some of the north-eastern states passed very liberal welfare acts. Wisconsin in particular was quite generous. So the unskilled, semi-skilled, and unemployed blacks in Chicago moved to Milwaukee. Wisconsin pitched a fit, as well they should. Those benefits were meant for their own citizens, not welfare refugees. There was an exodus of blacks from the south to the states with the generous benefits.

Soooo, the various senators in DC got together to pass the Federal welfare act. It was easy to get everyone on board. A standardized welfare system nation wide. It would stop the welfare refugees from running like locusts to which ever state paid the most. The exodus from the south stopped thus preserving the 'share cropper' economy in the agricultural belt. But the damage had already been done.

Whites left the cities in droves. They wanted mo part of the uneducated black culture that was evolving in their cities. Nor did they want their children going to school with unruly, fatherless, children. A culture that persists to this day that no parent with any means whatsoever would willingly subject their child to.

Those blacks that did elevated themselves to skilled jobs via education got their asses out of there too.

What was left behind was the unemployable or barely employable at best. The educational system didn't fail them so much as they turned their back on the system. (That be 'Whitey shit.') Crime became a way of life. Crime got you street cred., bling, and lengthy rap sheets.

Were the motives racist? On the part of the southern senators it certainly was. For the others it was just a case of fiscal responsibility.

But the fact remains that the black community can turn itself around at anytime it wants to. It merely takes the will and the willingness to face the fact that for the most part they are a product of their own creation. That they aren't so much victims as they are being used by a host of liberals, liberals of every race and creed. Just start cleaning up your neighborhood, one house at a time.

Ishmael

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Things You Don't Learn In The "Black People" Class Ishmeal Teaches, Part 675:

Redlining (1937- )

Redlining refers to a discriminatory pattern of disinvestment and obstructive lending practices that act as an impediment to home ownership among African Americans and other people of color. Banks used the concept to deny loans to homeowners and would-be homeowners who lived in these neighborhoods. This in turn resulted in neighborhood economic decline and the withholding of services or their provision at an exceptionally high cost.

The origin of the term stems from the policies developed by the Home Owners Loan Corporation (HOLC) created in 1933 by the Franklin Roosevelt Administration to reduce home foreclosures during the Depression and then institutionalized by the 1937 U.S. Housing Act which established the Federal Housing Association (FHA). Federal housing agencies including the HOLC and the FHA determined whether areas were deemed unfit for investment by banks, insurance companies, savings and loan associations, and other financial services companies. The areas were physically demarcated with red shading on a map. In contrast, zones which were to receive preferential lending status were marked in green shading and intermediate areas in blue shading. Often these decisions were arbitrarily based on the area’s racial composition rather than income levels. While the practice was almost universal before 1968, the Civil Rights Act passed that year theoretically outlawed redlining. Nonetheless its impact was felt long after that date. In a series of Pulitzer Prize winning articles which appeared in 1988 under the title “The Color of Money,” Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Bill Dedmen described how Atlanta banks still discriminated by the racial designation of neighborhoods. His article illustrated how these banks were nearly twice as likely to lend to homeowners and prospective home buyers in low-income white neighborhoods as in affluent black areas.

As a consequence of redlining, neighborhoods that local banks deemed unfit for investment were left underdeveloped or in disrepair. Attempts to improve these neighborhoods with even relatively small-scale business ventures were commonly obstructed by financial institutions that continued to label the underwriting as too risky or simply rejected them outright. When existing businesses collapsed, new ones were not allowed to replace them, often leaving entire blocks empty and crumbling. Consequently African Americans in those neighborhoods were frequently limited in their access to banking, healthcare, retail merchandise, and even groceries. One notable exception to this was (and still is) the proliferation of liquor stores and bars which seemingly transcended the area’s stigma of financial risk.

Redlining also led to an appreciable dearth of employment opportunities in these neighborhoods as prospective small scale employers were disinclined to locate there. Crime often followed in the wake of these declining neighborhoods making future investment less likely. These developments created a cycle which seemingly justified the initial redlining practices.

Sources:
Bill Dedmen, “The Color of Money,” The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, May 1, 1988; Jack M. Guttentag and Susan M. Wachter, Redlining and Public Policy (New York: New York University, 1980); Kenneth T. Jackson, Crabgrass Frontier: The Suburbanization of the United States (New York: Oxford University Press, 1985); Gregory D. Squires, ed., Insurance Redlining: Disinvestment, Reinvestment, and the Evolving Role of Financial Institutions (Washington, D.C.: Urban Institute Press 1997).

http://www.blackpast.org/aah/redlining-1937#sthash.C3T9Wum1.dpuf

http://38.media.tumblr.com/786f5ca688291184e01ae3102b742fbd/tumblr_inline_nooeadoVc41qfa8wb_500.gif

 

[Wrong Element]

I guess noted TV sheriff/world famous scolder of black people in front of white audiences David Clarke isn't the solution for everything that ails Milwaukee after all.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Good, I hope they riot more.

I hope the next time they lynch 200 white males on live TV. Torture, kill and parade their bodies around triumphantly in the name of progress.


It's what America needs.....

 

[patient1]

I guess noted TV sheriff/world famous scolder of black people in front of white audiences David Clarke isn't the solution for everything that ails Milwaukee after all.

The county sheriff has had his differences with the City mayor, police chief, many of the Aldermen, and the current county executive. Clark means what he says. I wouldn't be surprised that the police force would choose him as a leader over Flynn ( who had a 99.7% no confidence vote from the union ) oand hasn't been honest with the public. For that matter, if Clark wanted to become Governor, he could get the job.

From the Wikipedia on police chief Ed Flynn-

"Milwaukee, Wisconsin[edit]

Flynn was sworn in as Milwaukee police chief, on January 7, 2008.[9] He was only the second outsider in the history of the Milwaukee Police Department to be named chief.[2]

In June 2011, Flynn criticized the state's proposed concealed-carry bill, saying that the bill did not provide enough supervision.[12]

In December 2011, Flynn and Milwaukee county sheriff David A. Clarke, Jr engaged in a war of words over bus safety in Milwaukee after an increase in the number of reports of fighting incidents on buses. Clarke also attacked Flynn for rising response times to crime and for bringing the culture of another area to Milwaukee.[13]

In late 2011 his contract was renewed for an additional four years.[14] Flynn's second term marked the first time since 1863 that a Milwaukee police chief was reappointed. He was credited with crime reductions every year of his tenure in Milwaukee, as well as mending police-citizen relations.[15]

In 2012, it was revealed that complaints were filed against seven Milwaukee police officers and a sergeant alleging that they performed unauthorized rectal searches during traffic stops. Flynn announced that all of them had been stripped of their police powers while the allegations were under investigation and urged citizens who felt that they had been subjected to an illegal strip search to come forward.[16]

In May 2012, a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel investigative report revealed that more than 500 incidents since 2009 were misreported to the FBI as minor assaults and not included in the city's violent crime rate data. Hundreds of beatings, stabbings and child abuse cases were missing from the count on which the Milwaukee Police Department bases their statistical reporting.[17] The errors in reporting would have changed Chief Flynn's claim that violent crime had decreased by 2.3% in 2011 to an increase by 1.1%. Wisconsin governor Scott Walker joined state and city officials in calling for an independent audit of Milwaukee police crime data.[18]

Personal life[edit]

Flynn and his wife Susan have been married since 1973. The couple has two grown children.[2] Susan has remained in Virginia while Flynn has worked in Massachusetts and Wisconsin due to her career and desire to stay close to family.[19]

In 2009, it was alleged that Flynn had an affair with journalist Jessica McBride.[9][19][20] In response to these allegations, he was quoted as saying "I have done my wife and family a great wrong, and I profoundly regret the hurt I have inflicted on them and others affected by my conduct [...]".[9][19][20] Although he claimed that the affair had ended he became the center of a new scandal in July 2012 when documents were submitted to the fire and police commission and City Hall that the affair continued throughout 2012.[21]"

In other words, violent crime has been under-reported since Flynn got the job, and the reductions in violent crime played no small part in him being the first chief re-appointed since 1863. Go figure.

 

[Ishmael]

I guess noted TV sheriff/world famous scolder of black people in front of white audiences David Clarke isn't the solution for everything that ails Milwaukee after all.

Are you some sort of parrot, or just not thinking clearly?

The sheriff, no matter who they may be, has neither the authority nor the resources to FIX anything. Further, that's not his job.

Clark clearly has a handle on what the problem is and has so stated on numerous occasions. But his job is to enforce the law, not make policy or allocate the budgets associated with policy.

So ragging on the black guy for not doing what he isn't elected to do, and hasn't the authority to do, makes you look, well, small.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That is 1/2 a history. How did it all get that way?

In the late 50's and through the 60's the economy was booming. The "boomers" were coming into their own. Detroit couldn't make cars fast enough. Same with refrigerators, etc. The rust belt states as well as some of the north-eastern states passed very liberal welfare acts. Wisconsin in particular was quite generous. So the unskilled, semi-skilled, and unemployed blacks in Chicago moved to Milwaukee. Wisconsin pitched a fit, as well they should. Those benefits were meant for their own citizens, not welfare refugees. There was an exodus of blacks from the south to the states with the generous benefits.

Soooo, the various senators in DC got together to pass the Federal welfare act. It was easy to get everyone on board. A standardized welfare system nation wide. It would stop the welfare refugees from running like locusts to which ever state paid the most. The exodus from the south stopped thus preserving the 'share cropper' economy in the agricultural belt. But the damage had already been done.

Whites left the cities in droves. They wanted mo part of the uneducated black culture that was evolving in their cities. Nor did they want their children going to school with unruly, fatherless, children. A culture that persists to this day that no parent with any means whatsoever would willingly subject their child to.

Those blacks that did elevated themselves to skilled jobs via education got their asses out of there too.

What was left behind was the unemployable or barely employable at best. The educational system didn't fail them so much as they turned their back on the system. (That be 'Whitey shit.') Crime became a way of life. Crime got you street cred., bling, and lengthy rap sheets.

Were the motives racist? On the part of the southern senators it certainly was. For the others it was just a case of fiscal responsibility.

But the fact remains that the black community can turn itself around at anytime it wants to. It merely takes the will and the willingness to face the fact that for the most part they are a product of their own creation. That they aren't so much victims as they are being used by a host of liberals, liberals of every race and creed. Just start cleaning up your neighborhood, one house at a time.

Ishmael

And then, as we learned in KC, the fix for this unintended consequence was to pull white kids out of their neighborhood schools, ship them into the inner city where they were treated as enemies while at the same time shipping the inner city out to the suburbs to ensure that no real learning could take place there as the culture of diversity quickly turned into a war zone where every black kid had a 'fro and a big-ass com whose handle was honed into a shiv...

 

[Disgustipated]

And then, as we learned in KC, the fix for this unintended consequence was to pull white kids out of their neighborhood schools, ship them into the inner city where they were treated as enemies while at the same time shipping the inner city out to the suburbs to ensure that no real learning could take place there as the culture of diversity quickly turned into a war zone where every black kid had a 'fro and a big-ass com whose handle was honed into a shiv...

http://i.imgur.com/IqBUpxP.jpg

Also;

no real learning could take place there as the culture of diversity quickly turned into a war zone where every black kid had a 'fro and a big-ass com whose handle was honed into a shiv...

Just in case you thought you could bury the lead.

​

 

[Que]

http://i.imgur.com/IqBUpxP.jpg

Also;


Just in case you thought you could bury the lead.

​

Evidently, you need to learn how prepositions function. "Run-on" does not equal "long."

 

[Disgustipated]

It's no fun when it's this easy.

Anyway, I understand the need to ignore your fellow card-carrying member's bullshit, lies, and racism.

BUT PREPOSITIONS!

 

[Que]

Things You Don't Learn In The "Black People" Class Ishmeal Teaches, Part 675:

Redlining (1937- )

Redlining refers to a discriminatory pattern of disinvestment and obstructive lending practices that act as an impediment to home ownership among African Americans and other people of color. Banks used the concept to deny loans to homeowners and would-be homeowners who lived in these neighborhoods. This in turn resulted in neighborhood economic decline and the withholding of services or their provision at an exceptionally high cost.

The origin of the term stems from the policies developed by the Home Owners Loan Corporation (HOLC) created in 1933 by the Franklin Roosevelt Administration to reduce home foreclosures during the Depression and then institutionalized by the 1937 U.S. Housing Act which established the Federal Housing Association (FHA). Federal housing agencies including the HOLC and the FHA determined whether areas were deemed unfit for investment by banks, insurance companies, savings and loan associations, and other financial services companies. The areas were physically demarcated with red shading on a map. In contrast, zones which were to receive preferential lending status were marked in green shading and intermediate areas in blue shading. Often these decisions were arbitrarily based on the area’s racial composition rather than income levels. While the practice was almost universal before 1968, the Civil Rights Act passed that year theoretically outlawed redlining. Nonetheless its impact was felt long after that date. In a series of Pulitzer Prize winning articles which appeared in 1988 under the title “The Color of Money,” Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Bill Dedmen described how Atlanta banks still discriminated by the racial designation of neighborhoods. His article illustrated how these banks were nearly twice as likely to lend to homeowners and prospective home buyers in low-income white neighborhoods as in affluent black areas.

As a consequence of redlining, neighborhoods that local banks deemed unfit for investment were left underdeveloped or in disrepair. Attempts to improve these neighborhoods with even relatively small-scale business ventures were commonly obstructed by financial institutions that continued to label the underwriting as too risky or simply rejected them outright. When existing businesses collapsed, new ones were not allowed to replace them, often leaving entire blocks empty and crumbling. Consequently African Americans in those neighborhoods were frequently limited in their access to banking, healthcare, retail merchandise, and even groceries. One notable exception to this was (and still is) the proliferation of liquor stores and bars which seemingly transcended the area’s stigma of financial risk.

Redlining also led to an appreciable dearth of employment opportunities in these neighborhoods as prospective small scale employers were disinclined to locate there. Crime often followed in the wake of these declining neighborhoods making future investment less likely. These developments created a cycle which seemingly justified the initial redlining practices.

Sources:
Bill Dedmen, “The Color of Money,” The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, May 1, 1988; Jack M. Guttentag and Susan M. Wachter, Redlining and Public Policy (New York: New York University, 1980); Kenneth T. Jackson, Crabgrass Frontier: The Suburbanization of the United States (New York: Oxford University Press, 1985); Gregory D. Squires, ed., Insurance Redlining: Disinvestment, Reinvestment, and the Evolving Role of Financial Institutions (Washington, D.C.: Urban Institute Press 1997).

http://www.blackpast.org/aah/redlining-1937#sthash.C3T9Wum1.dpuf

http://38.media.tumblr.com/786f5ca688291184e01ae3102b742fbd/tumblr_inline_nooeadoVc41qfa8wb_500.gif

How about considering blackpresent, not just your favored version of blackpast.

Redlining has been illegal and subject to monitoring for virtually your entire lifetime. The Community Reinvestment Act has REQUIRED banks to make loans in yhe communities they serve and Clinton-era intetpretations and FNMA policies has monetarily incentivized banks to loan in areas that any sane person would understand would likely result in default. They are actually rewarded for doing so. Further, modern lending is not a bank holding and servicing a loan that the bank originated. They profit at origination tgdn divest themselves.

Originators of home loans dont give a shit about the color of the person they're loaning the money to, the owner occupancy rate of the subject neighborhood, or even whether the person has the ability to repay that loan. It is packaged and sold to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac and is never seen again by the loan originator, so to suggest that the blight seen commonly in current black communities is a result of an inability to access capital is absolute bullshit. You'd know that if you knew anything about lending, real estate, or black communities.

 

[Que]

It's no fun when it's this easy.

Anyway, I understand the need to ignore your fellow card-carrying member's bullshit, lies, and racism.

BUT PREPOSITIONS!

You are missing a noun between "card carrying" and "members." Card carrying members of what organization?

I cannot imagine how you ever got the idea that grammar and spelling are a higher priority than expessing a cogent, relevant thought or that you of all people are the most qualified here to police that.

I'd be shocked to find that your scholastic acheivment was note-worthy.

 

[Disgustipated]

You are missing a noun between "card carrying" and "members." Card carrying members of what organization?

I cannot imagine how you ever got the idea that grammar and spelling are a higher priority than expessing a cogent, relevant thought or that you of all people are the most qualified here to police that.

I'd be shocked to find that your scholastic acheivment was note-worthy.

It's weird you view me as a Lit God.

BTW, 2 misspellings and a whole lot of unwarranted admiration.

 

[Wrong Element]

Post #19000

Are you some sort of parrot, or just not thinking clearly?

The sheriff, no matter who they may be, has neither the authority nor the resources to FIX anything. Further, that's not his job.

Clark clearly has a handle on what the problem is and has so stated on numerous occasions. But his job is to enforce the law, not make policy or allocate the budgets associated with policy.

So ragging on the black guy for not doing what he isn't elected to do, and hasn't the authority to do, makes you look, well, small.

Ishmael

See, that's "sarcasm" a la Trump.

If any crime anywhere in the United States is the fault of the President -- and I've been reading that here for 7 years -- then surely civil unrest in Milwaukee could fairly be attributed to the sheriff and to the governor of Wisconsin.

In the meantime, why can't Clarke get the fuck off Fox News once in a while and do his damn job?

 

[Que]

It's weird you view me as a Lit God.

BTW, 2 misspellings and a whole lot of unwarranted admiration.

Delusional self-aggrandizement much?

The ability to look for a little red squiggles on Firefox or whatever it is you're using does not a spelling champion make

 

[Aglaopheme]

Things You Don't Learn In The "Black People" Class Ishmeal Teaches, Part 675:

I thought reading was actually part of a class. I don't think he actually read the article I posted.

These were working families, families with both parents in the home, that came to Milwaukee.

late as 1979, 15 large Milwaukee manufacturing companies reported that two-thirds of their black employees held low-paying, unskilled and semi-skilled jobs, compared to only 29% of their white counterparts. People of Color were winding up on the statistical short side of the emerging Gap Analyses, as pervasive racial discrimination appeared to persist throughout the city.

 

[Aglaopheme]

It's weird you view me as a Lit God.

BTW, 2 misspellings and a whole lot of unwarranted admiration.

Is he actually critiquing your pists in a serious manor?

 

[Disgustipated]

Is he actually critiquing your pists in a serious manor?

Weather he is or not does not madder. All that matters is it's udderly pisting them off and the rest of us are smiling.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Here's what I know for certain.

My youngest daughter married a nigger.

She has sterling credit and pays her bills. His credit is shit because he's clueless when it comes to investments and wont pay his debts. He's lost more cars from repo than ever owned, mostly because the banks let him get more loans. Its the I'M BLACK AND AINT GOTTA PAY IT BACK program. He always has new wheels...for a while. Cant keep a job. But he has a big schlong.

I laugh at her. I say, YOUR MA MAKES DO WITH A WHITE BOY 9 INCH MINI DICK.y

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I thought reading was actually part of a class. I don't think he actually read the article I posted.

These were working families, families with both parents in the home, that came to Milwaukee.

He, along with a couple of other ersatz Negro Whisperers on this site, love delighting in this self-stroking fantasia that this nation's past didn't inform the present and that the legacy of this country's hegemony is irrelevant to policies and attitudes put into praxis.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

when will those in law enforcement lean. they just need to start shooting the animals

 

[Cheyenne]

From the Wikipedia on police chief Ed Flynn-

...

In late 2011 his contract was renewed for an additional four years.[14] Flynn's second term marked the first time since 1863 that a Milwaukee police chief was reappointed..

Except it was a lifetime appointment to police chief originally. I grew up in Milwaukee with 20 years of Chief Breier from 1964 to 1984 when he retired. Using 1863 as a measuring point makes no sense as there didn't need to BE reappointments until the law was changed in the 1970's to specifically address Chief Breier.

http://onmilwaukee.com/buzz/articles/breier.html