100,000 Bats Invade Oz Town, SOLUTION

[R. Richard]

Bat depend on echo echolocation to fly and nab insects. A big white noise generator destroys echolocation ability. The bats leave.
Some of you are from Oz, spread the word!

 

[Handley_Page]

Bat depend on echo echolocation to fly and nab insects. A big white noise generator destroys echolocation ability. The bats leave.
Some of you are from Oz, spread the word!

You got a source for this technique please?

 

[R. Richard]

You got a source for this technique please?

I have seen it done, on a classified USA job.

 

[oggbashan]

Just play Abba songs on a loop.

Better still, Kate Bush.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

What were we saying about Australia on the other thread? Yep.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

Send them here. The US has a crashing bat population and it's actually a significant problem.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Bat depend on echo echolocation to fly and nab insects. A big white noise generator destroys echolocation ability. The bats leave.
Some of you are from Oz, spread the word!

I didn't see a link, but I assume you're talking about this story? http://news.sky.com/story/1701376/100000-out-of-control-bats-invade-oz-town

Those bats are flying foxes. They don't eat insects and they don't use echolocation.

 

[lovecraft68]

Maybe Trump the great and terrible can build a wall.

 

[MichaelinChina]

I didn't see a link, but I assume you're talking about this story? http://news.sky.com/story/1701376/100000-out-of-control-bats-invade-oz-town

Those bats are flying foxes. They don't eat insects and they don't use echolocation.

Trust Americans not to be able to know the difference between a Flying Fox (basically a flying rat) and a bat.

They usually raid fruit orchards unless smart orchardists put up nets over their trees.

 

[legerdemer]

Trust Americans not to be able to know the difference between a Flying Fox (basically a flying rat) and a bat...
.

Now, now - can you tell the difference between javelina and wild pigs?

 

[colddiesel]

Trust Americans not to be able to know the difference between a Flying Fox (basically a flying rat) and a bat.

They usually raid fruit orchards unless smart orchardists put up nets over their trees.

The Flying fox is a bat - not an aerial rodent. They can weigh two pounds and live in communal roosts of up to 200,000. They do not use their mouths to make echo location sounds but can achieve some guidance by clicking their wings. This is crude and nowhere near good enough to catch insects - which is just as well, as they eat fruit - which is why they are also called fruitbats!

They are filthy critturs and the easiest way to find a colony is the stink they make which is awful.

R Richard's 'solution' won't work because unlike insectiverous bats their response to sound is rudimentary, they ignore any racket.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Trust Americans not to be able to know the difference between a Flying Fox (basically a flying rat) and a bat.

They usually raid fruit orchards unless smart orchardists put up nets over their trees.

Flying foxes are bats; they're part of the order Chiroptera. You might be thinking of the distinction between microbats (mostly insectivores) and megabats (flying foxes) but all of those are still bats.

There was a theory that megabats and microbats came from different ancestors and evolved flight independently, but last I heard the general consensus was against that based on genetic studies.

 

[lovecraft68]

It seems that like us Americans and of course Jon Snow, Michaelinchina knows nothing either.

 

[hoo_hoo_boo]

The Flying fox is a bat - not an aerial rodent. They can weigh two pounds and live in communal roosts of up to 200,000. They do not use their mouths to make echo location sounds but can achieve some guidance by clicking their wings. This is crude and nowhere near good enough to catch insects - which is just as well, as they eat fruit - which is why they are also called fruitbats!

They are filthy critturs and the easiest way to find a colony is the stink they make which is awful.

R Richard's 'solution' won't work because unlike insectiverous bats their response to sound is rudimentary, they ignore any racket.

Bats are now classified as primates as I understand. That is why fruit bats are successful in carrying and transmitting the hendra virus. Not some thing I'd like to catch.Horses also succumb to it and when diagnosed they are put down and their bodies carefully disposed of. Bats lose their appeal when in one's back yard. There's a colony in Adelaide now.

 

[colddiesel]

Bats are now classified as primates as I understand. .

Um: mebbe not. Primates include apes, humans, new and old world monkeys, lemurs, tarsiers, lorises and important Bishops.

 

[hoo_hoo_boo]

Since Linnaeus the hypothesis of them being primates has gone in and out of favour. At the moment it seems to be out. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_primate_hypothesis
www.science-frontiers.com/sf046/sf046po9.htm

I've never seen them at church.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Bats are now classified as primates as I understand. That is why fruit bats are successful in carrying and transmitting the hendra virus. Not some thing I'd like to catch.Horses also succumb to it and when diagnosed they are put down and their bodies carefully disposed of. Bats lose their appeal when in one's back yard. There's a colony in Adelaide now.

I think there was a theory that fruitbats were descended from primates or some near ancestor (they do have some primate-ish features) but last I heard molecular genetics had killed that idea. Hendra isn't just a primate thing; as you note horses can get it, also cats and dogs.

Hendra is very nasty but it doesn't seem to transmit directly from bats to humans. As far as I know all the human cases were infected via horses, so if you don't live around horses you're probably good; if you do, it's easier and kinder to vaccinate your horses instead of massacring bats.

I like having the occasional bat around, although I can see hundreds of thousands of them being a nuisance.

 

[Rollinbones]

Flying foxes are a pain in the coight regardless of genus and subspecies.

Their colonies stink, they are noisy and messy and they carry hendra virus.

They are however an important part of the biology, and are responsible for pollination of some native trees etc, so there is a bit of an battle going on between biologists and developers/residents.

For info sake; Hendra virus is shed in the bodily excretions of the flying foxes; piss, shit, afterbirth etc most of which drop under trees in which they roost or feed. People can not get it from the bats or the bodily excretions of the bats. People can only get the virus once it is mutated within a horse. The horse eats the grass underneath the tree and in doing so consumes the shit or piss. The virus then changes subtly in the horses body and the horse gets sick. People coming into contact with the infected horses can then get hendra virus from the horses mucus/spit etc. It kills them

Smaller Australian bats, insectivorous ones carry another virus, lyssavirus which they can transmit directly to humans via a bite.

Come visit some time. We have delightful fucken fauna.

 

[beachbum1958]

Flying foxes are a pain in the coight regardless of genus and subspecies.

Their colonies stink, they are noisy and messy and they carry hendra virus.

They are however an important part of the biology, and are responsible for pollination of some native trees etc, so there is a bit of an battle going on between biologists and developers/residents.

For info sake; Hendra virus is shed in the bodily excretions of the flying foxes; piss, shit, afterbirth etc most of which drop under trees in which they roost or feed. People can not get it from the bats or the bodily excretions of the bats. People can only get the virus once it is mutated within a horse. The horse eats the grass underneath the tree and in doing so consumes the shit or piss. The virus then changes subtly in the horses body and the horse gets sick. People coming into contact with the infected horses can then get hendra virus from the horses mucus/spit etc. It kills them

Smaller Australian bats, insectivorous ones carry another virus, lyssavirus which they can transmit directly to humans via a bite.

Come visit some time. We have delightful fucken fauna.

I once had the dubious privilege of eating a fruit bat in Papua, when I was on a tour there with MSF many years ago. I understand most of the species' there are endangered, which I don't think made a whit of difference to the hill tribe who thought they were honouring us by giving us those nasty things to eat (I suspect it wasn't so much a case of 'try the local delicacy, tuan', and more a case of 'let's see what the farang will swallow next'; sheep's eyeballs apparently come in all shapes and forms...) They certainly thought it was amusing watching us try to work out what to swallow, and what to spit out.

Having said that, after I'd gagged down the truly disgusting thing, burned to a crisp as it was, and half raw in places, with some of the fur still on it, I vomited like a naval crew on a three-day pass, which the locals thought was hilarious. My colleague, a young French dentist, wasn't so lucky; he was smugly proud of his ability to gag it down and keep it down, until he unfortunately developed what can only be described as explosive diarrhoea, and had to be airlifted to Port Moresby...

It does sadden me that I helped make the threat to whatever species it was I ate that much more immediate.

 

[Handley_Page]

It's all this foreign cooking, ya' knaw.

 

[myrionomos]

Whoda' thunk it, this thread is a tribute to the AH. Now someone make a story out of it.

 

[rjordan]

Maybe Trump the great and terrible can build a wall.

Probably wouldn't work. Trump, the Big White Noise Generator, seems to attract bats--batshit crazies anyway.

rj

 

[Hypoxia]

My sister in Tucson Arizona thought putting a bat house in her yard would be cute. Then she learned that because bats are protected, she can't remove the bat house. So she's stuck with annoying bats. No, my sister is not the brightest of women. She's a Libertarian.

 

[Handley_Page]

My sister in Tucson Arizona thought putting a bat house in her yard would be cute. Then she learned that because bats are protected, she can't remove the bat house. So she's stuck with annoying bats. No, my sister is not the brightest of women. She's a Libertarian.

A 'bat house'; you mean like a Pigeon loft ?
Bats are protected over here, too.; well, most of the species.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Bat depend on echo echolocation to fly and nab insects. A big white noise generator destroys echolocation ability. The bats leave.
Some of you are from Oz, spread the word!

or just get Harrogate from McCarthy's Suttree to sort 'em.