Litiquette IV

[GiggLeGasm]

Yes, pattern recognition is part of it. Spacial relationships, relatively speaking, can be expressed mathematically. It can be a progression of 2+2=?. It has to do with logic and logic is usually the principle of sciences.

Music has been defined as mathematical, yet if you gave a person with a high IQ test a musical instrument, they would likely master the scales and do little else. They look for progressions in steps, whereas a person with a high EQ (as it was defined to me) would make leaps that don't correlate to logic. They think in terms of concordant harmonies and contrasts.

Art uses pattern recognition too, to a degree, but, as it was defined to me, someone with an art background goes outside the lines of convention and look for alternative correlations. This is why people with high EQ scores wouldn't do well on an IQ test, yet they make masterful artworks, which defies IQ tests.

Did that answer your question well enough?

There is actually a strong correlation between EQ and IQ. Scoring very high in would actually suggest that you would also score well in the other.

 

[LWulf]

There is actually a strong correlation between EQ and IQ. Scoring very high in would actually suggest that you would also score well in the other.

Not necessarily from my understanding. People like Einstein usually express very low emotional stability. They think in terms of absolutes, which tends to make them come across as cold and calculating.

While people like Van Gogh are emotive yet not very logical.

edit: yes, some people might score high in both, but it is not automatic or guaranteed.

The primary reason why EQ tests were made, again, from my understanding, was because IQ tests didn't quantify the arts. If an IQ test covered both concepts, then there would be no rationale for an EQ test to be made.

I keep harping on "my understanding," because it seems my research on EQ tests might be outdated... or simply in error.

 

[LWulf]

Not necessarily from my understanding. People like Einstein usually express very low emotional stability. They think in terms of absolutes, which tends to make them come across as cold and calculating.

While people like Van Gogh are emotive yet not very logical.

edit: yes, some people might score high in both, but it is not automatic or guaranteed.

The primary reason why EQ tests were made, again, from my understanding, was because IQ tests didn't quantify the arts. If an IQ test covered both concepts, then there would be no rationale for an EQ test to be made.

I keep harping on "my understanding," because it seems my research on EQ tests might be outdated... or simply in error.

Machiavelli might have scored high in both IQ and EQ because he was cold and calculating, but he was also highly emotive. He would make connections in interpersonal relationships that a person with simply a high IQ would not make.

Based on my understanding of IQ and EQ, natch

 

[Paul_Chance]

EQ testing arose out of leadership studies (what makes an effective leader) in the sixties and never really gained any traction until the late 90's. They're pretty controversial, but as the models have been refined over time they're getting closer and closer to something actually measurable.

They've got two big problems academically/scientifically. First is how they are scored. They're scored using either a consensus model (self-referential - an individuals scores are compared to the scores of other individuals who've taken the test and if your individual answers correlate with the previous answers you get higher scores) or an expert model (scored against the consensus score of 21 experts).

There is some good work going on now in the FFM model of EI (emotional intelligence) which has separated the scores into two major traits - intelligence (mostly focused on pattern recognition of emotional displays) and personality traits (derived from the Big Five model of personality scoring).

Academically the huge problem is that so far, EI or EQ, unlike IQ, doesn't correlate with across cultures or class, nor does there seem to be any correlation to future success, which limits its predictive value, unlike IQ which has a strong predictive correlation to all kinds of things (including the one that fascinates me the most and would seem to be self-evident - mortality. There is a direct correlation between high IQ and longevity.)

It's fascinating work. I suspect that at some date in the future EQ will eventually be rolled under IQ.

 

[LWulf]

EQ testing arose out of leadership studies (what makes an effective leader) in the sixties and never really gained any traction until the late 90's. They're pretty controversial, but as the models have been refined over time they're getting closer and closer to something actually measurable.

They've got two big problems academically/scientifically. First is how they are scored. They're scored using either a consensus model (self-referential - an individuals scores are compared to the scores of other individuals who've taken the test and if your individual answers correlate with the previous answers you get higher scores) or an expert model (scored against the consensus score of 21 experts).

There is some good work going on now in the FFM model of EI (emotional intelligence) which has separated the scores into two major traits - intelligence (mostly focused on pattern recognition of emotional displays) and personality traits (derived from the Big Five model of personality scoring).

Academically the huge problem is that so far, EI or EQ, unlike IQ, doesn't correlate with across cultures or class, nor does there seem to be any correlation to future success, which limits its predictive value, unlike IQ which has a strong predictive correlation to all kinds of things (including the one that fascinates me the most and would seem to be self-evident - mortality. There is a direct correlation between high IQ and longevity.)

It's fascinating work. I suspect that at some date in the future EQ will eventually be rolled under IQ.

Yes, exactly. A soldier who scores low in IQ (there is that running joke of "military intelligence"), yet manages through creativity to win successful campaign after campaign until he becomes a general, defies the concept of a realistic "intelligence" test.

Personally, if they ever do such a thing, I hope one is run one after the other instead of concurrently, since IQ tests are timed, a person with a high IQ might stumble over EQ questions and vice versa.

 

[Paul_Chance]

Now let's circle back around to something far more relevant.

Did you know there is a correlation between breast size in women and IQ?

It's one of those weird things about humanity (and IQ tests), but yes - there is.

Women with larger breasts tend to score higher on IQ tests (contrary to common myth) independent of socio-economic group or educational level.

They suspect the mechanism of hormones that develop the breast (size, shape, firmness) are also the same hormones that develop the brain.

The genetics are unclear, but they also suspect it's because, over the long stretch of time, larger breasted women have been able to choose the alpha males as partners (and IQ does correlate with alpha status in any cohort).

Now, I am going to write my grant request to study ass size and intelligence.

(Oh, and guys, don't think you got off clean - there is actually a correlation between penis size and IQ too. Which explains why PMann is a Genius!)

 

[LWulf]

Now let's circle back around to something far more relevant.

Did you know there is a correlation between breast size in women and IQ?

It's one of those weird things about humanity (and IQ tests), but yes - there is.

Women with larger breasts tend to score higher on IQ tests (contrary to common myth) independent of socio-economic group or educational level.

They suspect the mechanism of hormones that develop the breast (size, shape, firmness) are also the same hormones that develop the brain.

The genetics are unclear, but they also suspect it's because, over the long stretch of time, larger breasted women have been able to choose the alpha males as partners (and IQ does correlate with alpha status in any cohort).

Now, I am going to write my grant request to study ass size and intelligence.

(Oh, and guys, don't think you got off clean - there is actually a correlation between penis size and IQ too. Which explains why PMann is a Genius!)

Actually, I'm more likely to believe that a woman with big breasts gets away with giving dumb questions to the tester who is having fantasies about them, and gives her a free pass as a result.

No clue why a guy with a big dork would get a free pass as we all know women don't (admit to) crotch watch.

 

[LWulf]

IQ tester (drooling) "if you know any FEMALE friends with big... IQ's ...like you, please bring them by to be tested?"

IQ tester verdict "I am shocked by how large her IQ score was!"

 

[Lord Pmann]

There is actually a strong correlation between EQ and IQ. Scoring very high in would actually suggest that you would also score well in the other.

I'm not saying this is incorrect. However, my experiences have shown me, the people who are incredibly brilliant are often very awkward. Think of your physicists, mathematicians, engineers (not me), etc. Typically higher IQ people, yet their social skills/emotional awareness suck the big green weenie.

 

[Lord Pmann]

There is some good work going on now in the FFM model...

That's my favourite model.

(Oh, and guys, don't think you got off clean - there is actually a correlation between penis size and IQ too. Which explains why PMann is a Genius!)

It better not be inversely proportional, fucker!

 

[Corbal]

I'm not saying this is incorrect. However, my experiences have shown me, the people who are incredibly brilliant are often very awkward. Think of your physicists, mathematicians, engineers (not me), etc. Typically higher IQ people, yet their social skills/emotional awareness suck the big green weenie.

Lies. The weenies I suck come out of a little blue can. I've been told they're made in Vienna from pork lips and assholes.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Lies. The weenies I suck come out of a little blue can. I've been told they're made in Vienna from pork lips and assholes.

Always with the class.

 

[NorthRockJohnson]

Lies. The weenies I suck come out of a little blue can. I've been told they're made in Vienna from pork lips and assholes.

If you guys need me I'll be spending the rest of the evening barfing.

 

[Corbal]

Always with the class.

Anything worth doing is worth doing in style. I always wear a plastic bib.

If you guys need me I'll be spending the rest of the evening barfing.

You're welcome. Consider me a Weight Loss Coach.

 

[NorthRockJohnson]

Anything worth doing is worth doing in style. I always wear a plastic bib.

You're welcome. Consider me a Weight Loss Coach.

Weight Loss Coach, bulimia enabler. It's all the same.

 

[tnman03]

Lies. The weenies I suck come out of a little blue can. I've been told they're made in Vienna from pork lips and assholes.

*blinks* Frequently you say something that is the epitome of a sarcastic Southern Woman in rare form it makes me laugh. Thanks.

 

[Lord Pmann]

*blinks* Frequently you say something that is the epitome of a sarcastic Southern Woman in rare form it makes me laugh. Thanks.

Oh I thought she was a Yankee.

 

[Trekka]

Oh I thought she was a Yankee.

Dude, are you trying to piss her off? Or are you coming by it naturally?

 

[Bookishleigh]

Dude, are you trying to piss her off? Or are you coming by it naturally?

Better to be pissed off than pissed on....at least in my world.

 

[Trekka]

Better to be pissed off than pissed on....at least in my world.

Hey, don't knock it till ya tried it.

 

[Bookishleigh]

Hey, don't knock it till ya tried it.

Lol - who said I haven't? I almost broke my ankle trying to get away! Public Service Announcement - You should NEVER surprise your partner by peeing on her in the shower. That's something you talk about first!

 

[Trekka]

Lol - who said I haven't? I almost broke my ankle trying to get away! Public Service Announcement - You should NEVER surprise your partner by peeing on her in the shower. That's something you talk about first!

They never ask first. *shakes head*

 

[Lord Pmann]

Are you girls dating Dalmatians? Because they tend to just pee at will. Humans have bowel control.

 

[Trekka]

Are you girls dating Dalmatians? Because they tend to just pee at will. Humans have bowel control.

Two totally different bodily systems. I thought you had high IQ?

At any rate, yes, he's a dog. Loyal, protective, furry, and marks his territory.

*massaging the bite marks on the back of my neck...

 

[EroticRomanticMan]

Two totally different bodily systems. I thought you had high IQ?

At any rate, yes, he's a dog. Loyal, protective, furry, and marks his territory.

*massaging the bite marks on the back of my neck...

Holy shit this thread has gone down hill since I last visited.!