Punish Women For Having Abortions?

[Hypoxia]

Sluts must be punished.

Now you are trolling, and showing basic disrespect and contempt for fellow citizens. Shame.

 

[SexyAlison]

Now you are trolling, and showing basic disrespect and contempt for fellow citizens. Shame.

Not trolling. I'm against both male and female sluts. I'm against abortion unless it's one of the reasons I stated, and I feel this way ESPECIALLY if the abortion is government funded. I know many people have been pushing for government funded abortion and I'm completely against that. No, I'm not going to pay for your terrible life choices.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not trolling. I'm against both male and female sluts. I'm against abortion unless it's one of the reasons I stated, and I feel this way ESPECIALLY if the abortion is government funded. I know many people have been pushing for government funded abortion and I'm completely against that. No, I'm not going to pay for your terrible life choices.

You have no choice in that whatsoever. The choice isn't if you pay, it's how much and for what.

 

[Real_American11]

It was, by religious assholes looking for a reason to rape and torture and kill women.

There were burnings of criminals in the US during the mid 1700s... you know just a few decades before the signing of the Constitution.

I love how they part when its a man coming through, tells you all you need to know about you and your kind.

You support murders, you're an evil person.

Third, such a cruel method of capital punishment has been illegal in the US at least since the Constitution was passed

I don't agree with you. It was still allowed when the Constitution was signed.

Burning at the stake done properly kills fairly slowly via asphyxiation if I understand properly.

How is that different than the chamber?

Also, if it isn't painful than I don't support, I want them to burn.

The electrocution don't properly kills nearly instantly.

That's a big *if*, wouldn't want to be one of the unlucky few...

Lethal injection done properly puts you to sleep and then you don't wake up.

Again, what if it goes wrong?

Also, why all the effort? Just use one of those cattle-guns.

The gas chamber you just die slowly and supposedly peacefully.

How do they know that?

You have no choice in that whatsoever.

That will change.

No longer will we be burdened with the stupidity and selfishness of others.

 

[SexyAlison]

You have no choice in that whatsoever. The choice isn't if you pay, it's how much and for what.

this is why I'm for low taxes.

 

[Real_American11]

this is why I'm for low taxes.

The less money government can get it's hands on the smaller it will be.

Government must be kept in a cage and beaten with a stick daily.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by SexyAlison View Post

Not trolling. I'm against both male and female sluts. I'm against abortion unless it's one of the reasons I stated, and I feel this way ESPECIALLY if the abortion is government funded. I know many people have been pushing for government funded abortion and I'm completely against that. No, I'm not going to pay for your terrible life choices.

You have no choice in that whatsoever. The choice isn't if you pay, it's how much and for what.

That's not entirely true. Medicaid does pay for abortions in CA, but not in some other states. I used to work for MediCAL in SF and processed payments by the feds. for thousands of abortions, but that was a long time ago. I think the laws were changed in the 90's so abortions were no longer paid for through Medicaid.

 

[Sean Renaud]

this is why I'm for low taxes.

Good luck running a functional country that way.

The less money government can get it's hands on the smaller it will be.

Government must be kept in a cage and beaten with a stick daily.

Yeah, I'd rather have an actual first rate country than a dysfunctional hell hole thank you very much.

That's not entirely true. Medicaid does pay for abortions in CA, but not in some other states. I used to work for MediCAL in SF and processed payments by the feds. for thousands of abortions, but that was a long time ago. I think the laws were changed in the 90's so abortions were no longer paid for through Medicaid.

Seriously, you botch quoting to piss me off don't you?

Most abortions are done for financial reasons. So if you (the taxpayer) doesn't pay for the abortion, you're going to pay for welfare. If you don't pay for welfare you're going (in at least SOME cases) to pay for prison. Some percentage of people will simply buckle down and live up to their potential but we've got enough data from enough countries to know those people are few and far between.

So again, you have no control over if you pay for other people's fuck ups. You just get to pick what is most pallatable.

 

[Real_American11]

Yeah, I'd rather have an actual first rate country than a dysfunctional hell hole thank you very much.

Then leave and move to China or Cuba.

This is the US, we are not supposed to be communist shit stains.

 

[SexyAlison]

Sean is a commie

 

[Boxlicker101]

There were burnings of criminals in the US during the mid 1700s... you know just a few decades before the signing of the Constitution.

I don't agree with you. It was still allowed when the Constitution was signed.

There have never been any legal executions by burning in the United States. Sometimes Democrats lynched a black man and killed him by burning, but those times were not pursuant to a sentence by the court, and were no more than murders. I am aware some murderers killed by burning their victims to death.

However, if you can point out one example where a court ordered a convicted person to be put to death by burning, I will concede you are right.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Seriously, you botch quoting to piss me off don't you?

Most abortions are done for financial reasons. So if you (the taxpayer) doesn't pay for the abortion, you're going to pay for welfare. If you don't pay for welfare you're going (in at least SOME cases) to pay for prison. Some percentage of people will simply buckle down and live up to their potential but we've got enough data from enough countries to know those people are few and far between.

So again, you have no control over if you pay for other people's fuck ups. You just get to pick what is most pallatable.

You're preaching to the choir here. I realized while I was processing the payments I mentioned earlier that abortions are a great bargain for taxpayers. The medical costs of bringing a baby to term are much higher than the costs of an abortion, and that's just a start. There was always a very good chance the unwanted child would always be a burden to society until he or she eventually died, frequently in prison.

 

[Real_American11]

There have never been any legal executions by burning in the United States.

Massachusetts, 1681, 2 people
New York, 1708, 1 person
New York, 1712, 20 people
New York, 1741, 13 people
Massachusetts, 1755, 2 people

 

[Boxlicker101]

Massachusetts, 1681, 2 people
New York, 1708, 1 person
New York, 1712, 20 people
New York, 1741, 13 people
Massachusetts, 1755, 2 people

Those were all before the US existed.

ETA: I must admit, I did find two examples, which are quite similar:



http://www.executedtoday.com/2011/05/01/1830-the-slave-jerry-the-last-american-execution-by-burning/

 

[Real_American11]

Those were all before the US existed.

True, but it shows that burning at the stake was not an unusual form of execution in the colonies around the time of the Constitution's signing.

 

[Boxlicker101]

True, but it shows that burning at the stake was not an unusual form of execution in the colonies around the time of the Constitution's signing.

The one in MA colony was about 30 years before the signing.

However, as I said, I did find two examples, which are quite similar:

http://www.executedtoday.com/2011/05/01/1830-the-slave-jerry-the-last-american-execution-by-burning/

http://www.executedtoday.com/2008/12/21/1855-the-slave-celia-who-had-no-right-to-resist/

 

[Sean Renaud]

Then leave and move to China or Cuba.

This is the US, we are not supposed to be communist shit stains.

Nope. I'm comfortable here. I'd much rather finish conquering this place from the idiots who don't understand what civilization is.

Sean is a commie

Oh well I can live with it.

True, but it shows that burning at the stake was not an unusual form of execution in the colonies around the time of the Constitution's signing.

Around the time of is utterly irrelevant.

 

[Real_American11]

The one in MA colony was about 30 years before the signing.

Which isn't long ago, most if not all the signatories of the Constitution were born earlier than 30 years before the signing.

It wasn't some archaic form of execution from centuries ago, it was only three decades.

And as you say, there are examples after the sighing too.

Nope. I'm comfortable here. I'd much rather finish conquering this place from the idiots who don't understand what civilization is.

Never going to happen, you're weak, stupid, lazy, and a coward.

Around the time of is utterly irrelevant.

Why? It shows it was not uncommon or considered cruel at the time of the signing.

 

[phrodeau]

Yeah, three decades ago everyone was listening to cassette tapes.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Which isn't long ago, most if not all the signatories of the Constitution were born earlier than 30 years before the signing.

It wasn't some archaic form of execution from centuries ago, it was only three decades.

And as you say, there are examples after the sighing too.

Never going to happen, you're weak, stupid, lazy, and a coward.

Why? It shows it was not uncommon or considered cruel at the time of the signing.

It was obviously cruel and was almost non-existent after the signing of the Constitution, which is the premise here. It was so cruel it was only employed by Democrats against black slaves, and not very often even then.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And ultimately I give zero shits what two century dead farmers did anyway.

And it's never gonna happen? Please there are so few of you left all you can do is bark.

 

[Hypoxia]

Not trolling. I'm against both male and female sluts.

Why?

Why should not people live as they wish so long as they don't hurt others? Why should people live constrained to YOUR sensibilities? Why the obsession with others' sex lives? Not getting enough?

I'm against abortion unless it's one of the reasons I stated...

The abortion fight has nothing to do with protecting embryos. It is about power, control over women's bodies, female subservience, patriarchal dominance, the same old shit. Keep'em barefoot and pregnant, rattling the pots'n'pans, hanging the laundry on the line, and fellating the master. And dying in a back-alley coat hanger abortion. You think that's an exaggeration? It's history, honey.

If you are opposed to abortion then don't have one.

 

[Real_American11]

And ultimately I give zero shits what two century dead farmers did anyway.

Typical brain-dead progressive.

You're probably some shithead between 17 and 50.

And it's never gonna happen?

Yes. Never.

Please there are so few of you left all you can do is bark.

You SJWs are all the same, always yammering about "fight side of history" and other horseshit... but in the end you'll just be a clifnote like the Luddites.


All you will do is make people head towards libertarian positions, because nobody will want to be associated with you morons.

All it takes to make a libertarian is to be exposed to a communist's insanity.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Libertarians by and large are SJW you twit. They certainly want nothing to do with your old world ignorance.

 

[Real_American11]

Libertarians by and large are SJW

Wrong, SJWs are progressives, they are fascists, they are communists...

SJWs believe in collectivism and identity politics... Libertarians believe in individual sovereignty...

They are authoritarians, the opposite of of libertarians.