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Hard_Rom said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

The historicity of Jesus concerns whether Jesus of Nazareth, born c 7–2 BC, existed as a historical figure, whether the episodes portrayed in the gospels can be confirmed as historical events as opposed to myth, legend, or fiction, and the weighing of the evidence relating to his life

One of the chief problems confronting scholars interested in the historicity of Jesus, like that of the historicity of King Arthur, is that there are no contemporary records of his life or existence.[3] Like many genuinely historical figures of antiquity, all records of his historicity come from one or more generations after his death, the earliest source being that found in the Epistles of Paul dated to AD 59, who discusses his crucifixion. Other sources such as that of Josephus or Tacitus date even later. Historians interested in the historicity of Jesus are confronted by discussing the nature of these historic records and the intention and points of view of their authors.[4][5]

Although there is "near universal consensus" among scholars that Jesus existed historically, biblical scholars differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the details of his life that have been described in the gospels

There are three mentions of Jesus in non-Christian sources which have been used in historical analyses of the existence of Jesus.[30] Jesus is mentioned twice in the works of 1st-century Roman-Jewish historian Josephus and once in the works of the 2nd-century Roman historian Tacitus.

Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to the biblical Jesus in Books 18 and 20. The general scholarly view is that while the longer passage, known as the Testimonium Flavianum, is most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then subject to Christian interpolation or forgery.[32][33] Of the other mention in Josephus, Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman has stated that "few have doubted the genuineness" of Josephus' reference to Jesus in Antiquities 20, 9, 1 and it is only disputed by a small number of scholars.[34][35][36][37] There is a total of three references to the name 'Jesus' in Book 20, Chapter 9: "Jesus, who was called Christ" (ie ' Messiah'); "Jesus, son of Damneus", a Jewish High Priest (both in Paragraph 1 ); and "Jesus, son of Gamaliel", another Jewish High Priest (in Paragraph 4).

Roman historian Tacitus referred to 'Christus' and his execution by Pontius Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.[38] The very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe.[39] The Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation of Christ's crucifixion,[40] although some scholars question the authenticity of the passage on various different grounds.

Scholars attribute varying levels of certainty to other episodes. Some assume that there are eight elements about Jesus and his followers that can be viewed as historical facts, namely:[13][83]
Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
He called disciples.
He had a controversy at the Temple.
Jesus was crucified by the Romans near Jerusalem.[13][83]
Jesus was a Galilean.
His activities were confined to Galilee and Judea.
After his death his disciples continued.
Some of his disciples were persecuted.[13][83]

Scholarly agreement on this extended list is not universal.
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It all reads like Hillarys multiple autobiographies, your favorite reading.
 
Religion may not be all that bad.

There is no discounting that US evangelicals contribute massively to 3rd world charities. All sorts of 'save the children' programs out there.

Ones that a non-religious population may not contribute to. Rampant entitlement feelings are rife amongst many Westerners. Truly Christian donors see all as God's children and can move beyond race and ethnicity. 'Truly Christian' meaning charity is the first virtue and to love thy neighbour no matter what.

Jesus could very well have been speaking metaphorically. Fanatic disciples and written dogma could explain the very literal interpretations of his words.

What ever principle caused the singularity of the 'Cosmic Egg' to explode into our reality is well worth study. Whatever it was, is the reason we exist.

There is an argument that the Universe needs intelligent beings to exist.

If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear. Does it make a sound?

Does the Universe exist without humans to observe it?

The tree falls and yes, that act will cause compression of atmospheric gases which we interpret and 'name' as sound or noise. But without us they are just compressions of atmospheric gases.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Wrong! In the beginning was God, and God became a Word. Words are human inventions. Like noise and sound.
 
NOIRTRASH said:
Hillary makes bizarre claims all the time, and you and HEELS believe every word of it.
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Goodness, when have I ever said anything about any Hillary? That's twice (out of two times) that you've attributed to me something that I never mentioned.

Uh, what "every word" of what am I supposed to believe. If your all-knowing crystal ball is still working, perhaps you'd enlighten me, please.

Peace, sweetie.

w
 
wistfall1 said:
Goodness, when have I ever said anything about any Hillary? That's twice (out of two times) that you've attributed to me something that I never mentioned.

Uh, what "every word" of what am I supposed to believe. If your all-knowing crystal ball is still working, perhaps you'd enlighten me, please.

Peace, sweetie.

w
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I think most of the righty racist around here are closet 'fans' of Hillary/Obama. They attribute them to everything from the extinction of the dinosaurs to future alien invasions from outer space.

Not unlike the fundy preachers who get caught with rent boys.

And like farts! None proclaimeth their innocence so loudly as the guilty.
 
wistfall1 said:
Goodness, when have I ever said anything about any Hillary? That's twice (out of two times) that you've attributed to me something that I never mentioned.

Uh, what "every word" of what am I supposed to believe. If your all-knowing crystal ball is still working, perhaps you'd enlighten me, please.

Peace, sweetie.

w
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All right thinking people get their news and views from Hillary or HEELS, the official LIT chaplain.
 
BotanyBoy said:
LOL how trashed are you?
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C'mon now, this is standard issue JBJ. "If it aint Hillary, its prolly the blacks" JBJ.


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BotanyBoy said:
The only think you believe in is your god?

You have nothing else??

Seriously?

No thoughts or anything of yourself?
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No, I don't really have anything. I have thoughts, but they are usually wrong. I screw up everything I do. I've been let down by pretty much everyone I've ever met.

So yes, all I have is God.
 
Emerson40 said:
C'mon now, this is standard issue JBJ. "If it aint Hillary, its prolly the blacks" JBJ.


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Nah, usually he's at least semi on target...

Now he's just ignoring everything in favor of a "I hate Hillary" binge. It's like 430 there he's gotta be on Keystone number 35 or 40 by now.

pollynova said:
No, I don't really have anything. I have thoughts, but they are usually wrong. I screw up everything I do. I've been let down by pretty much everyone I've ever met.

So yes, all I have is God.
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That's sad....enjoy the love you get from your god.
 
Hard_Rom said:
I think most of the righty racist around here are closet 'fans' of Hillary/Obama. They attribute them to everything from the extinction of the dinosaurs to future alien invasions from outer space.

Not unlike the fundy preachers who get caught with rent boys.

And like farts! None proclaimeth their innocence so loudly as the guilty.
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If it's about politics, count me out. Religion? I do try to pass on the truth of the lies as far as I've been able to learn of them.

Otherwise, peace to all.

w
 
Hard_Rom said:
Religion may not be all that bad.

There is no discounting that US evangelicals contribute massively to 3rd world charities. All sorts of 'save the children' programs out there.

Granted there are many charities that collect the $, but, how much do you think actually gets to its intended target? There have been numerous scandals in the US where the $ was misappropriated, or just wasted on good times, bigger buildings, jets, whores, you name it. Their (churches) tax exempt status is a joke at this point. If you see a preacher from a big organization holding his / her hand out run for your life.
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More violence and evil is committed in the name of God(take your pick, Christian, Muslim etc...) than in the name of any devil of their pantheon.

The followers of the righteous are murderous, adulterous, hypocritical scum and that sums it up quite nicely.
 
M. Jordan said:
Hard_Rom said:
Religion may not be all that bad.

There is no discounting that US evangelicals contribute massively to 3rd world charities. All sorts of 'save the children' programs out there.

Granted there are many charities that collect the $, but, how much do you think actually gets to its intended target? There have been numerous scandals in the US where the $ was misappropriated, or just wasted on good times, bigger buildings, jets, whores, you name it. Their (churches) tax exempt status is a joke at this point. If you see a preacher from a big organization holding his / her hand out run for your life.
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It's religion. It's the thought that counts. And bureaucratic incompetence or profit stealing does not detract from original donors honourable intentions.
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lovecraft68 said:
More violence and evil is committed in the name of God(take your pick, Christian, Muslim etc...) than in the name of any devil of their pantheon.

The followers of the righteous are murderous, adulterous, hypocritical scum and that sums it up quite nicely.
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They can be and many times have been. But it is not a given. Very few absolutes in the Universe.
 
lovecraft68 said:
More violence and evil is committed in the name of God(take your pick, Christian, Muslim etc...) than in the name of any devil of their pantheon.

The followers of the righteous are murderous, adulterous, hypocritical scum and that sums it up quite nicely.
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Amen to that brother. But conveniently they always have god on their side.
 
Five_Inch_Heels said:
Why are humans so fucking stupid? You can't do this, you can't do that, you must do this, you must do that. If you don't it's a sin. If you do it's a sin. You'll go here. You'll go there.

WAKE UP YOU STUPID GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

There ain't no such fucking thing!!!!

When you die, you rot. You're bug food. You don't go anywhere. Your "Id' ain't no mo'.


God, Allah, Bubba, whatever you call it ....... it's all made up bullshit.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

Quit with the Bible shit. You want to read weird stories? Libraries are full of fiction.


This fucking Bible shit makes me blind with rage. It literally makes my head hurt and eyes go fuzzy.
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But what about KALI? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2E1CoGe98
 
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