Cut The "GOD" Crap!!!

[Hard_Rom]

That's why it is called faith in God.

faith: belief not based on proof

 

[pollynova]

Based upon what?

Maybe you should take some time to actually think about that.....

Like I said, it's nothing you would accept.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

God?? That's right up there with Santa and the Tooth Fairy.

You never saw Santa fucking your Mom?

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

'Have Faith'.




Faith Ford?

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's why it is called faith in God.

faith: belief not based on proof

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Like I said, it's nothing you would accept.

It's not about what I would accept, you've already made that assumption and you refuse to come off of it or state why it is you believe god is real.

So moving on I'm just leaving you with, maybe you should think about why you "know" god is real but not any of the other made up deities that have absolutely zero evidence of any kind to support their being. Why god and not the Easter Bunny? Or Spider Man?

Or don't and keep the faith instead....Doesn't matter to me because M'uricuh.

 

[pollynova]

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It's not about what I would accept, you've already made that assumption and you refuse to come off of it or state why it is you believe god is real.

So moving on I'm just leaving you with, maybe you should think about why you "know" god is real but not any of the other made up deities that have absolutely zero evidence of any kind to support their being. Why god and not the Easter Bunny? Or Spider Man?

Or don't and keep the faith instead....Doesn't matter to me because M'uricuh.

Because I feel God's love. I don't know why it's God's love and not another one. It just is.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Because I feel God's love.

Jessica Hahn felt that too.

Or was that Jim Bakker's 'love'?

 

[pollynova]

Jessica Hahn felt that too.

Or was that Jim Bakker's 'love'?

I don't know who they are so I can't speak for them. But I feel it.

 

[silver gurl]

I hate ALL religions equally.

I pray. We go to church once in awhile. It is not bad thing. There are worse things in the world.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because I feel God's love. I don't know why it's God's love and not another one. It just is.

Whatever works for you.

If you REALLY want to know why, look at who your family is, what community you grew up in and how you were raised.

Bet it was almost entirely Christian and you've been spoon fed that 'feeling' since long before you ever had a chance to question it.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

I don't know who they are so I can't speak for them. But I feel it.

A web search will open thine eyes.

Lots of kids felt the 'love' of lots of Priests over the years too.


'Feeling the love' seems to be quite the practice of polygamists sects too.

 

[BotanyBoy]

A web search will open thine eyes.

Lots of kids felt the 'love' of lots of Priests over the years too.


'Feeling the love' seems to be quite the practice of polygamists sects too.

Tha fuck is wrong with polygamy?

 

[pollynova]

Whatever works for you.

If you REALLY want to know why, look at who your family is, what community you grew up in and how you were raised.

Bet it was almost entirely Christian and you've been spoon fed that 'feeling' since long before you ever had a chance to question it.

Actually, no. I started going to church on my own.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Tha fuck is wrong with polygamy?

Nothing as long as the participants aren't Thumpers.

 

[phrodeau]

Tha fuck is wrong with polygamy?

Too many orifices and not enough prongs.

 

[Vagina_Dentata]

Psalm 102[a]
A prayer of an afflicted person who has grown weak and pours out a lament before the Lord.

1
Hear my prayer, Lord;
let my cry for help come to you.
2
Do not hide your face from me
when I am in distress.
Turn your ear to me;
when I call, answer me quickly.

3
For my days vanish like smoke;
my bones burn like glowing embers.
4
My heart is blighted and withered like grass;
I forget to eat my food.
5
In my distress I groan aloud
and am reduced to skin and bones.
6
I am like a desert owl,
like an owl among the ruins.
7
I lie awake; I have become
like a bird alone on a roof.
8
All day long my enemies taunt me;
those who rail against me use my name as a curse.
9
For I eat ashes as my food
and mingle my drink with tears
10
because of your great wrath,
for you have taken me up and thrown me aside.
11
My days are like the evening shadow;
I wither away like grass.

12
But you, Lord, sit enthroned forever;
your renown endures through all generations.
13
You will arise and have compassion on Zion,
for it is time to show favor to her;
the appointed time has come.
14
For her stones are dear to your servants;
her very dust moves them to pity.
15
The nations will fear the name of the Lord,
all the kings of the earth will revere your glory.
16
For the Lord will rebuild Zion
and appear in his glory.
17
He will respond to the prayer of the destitute;
he will not despise their plea.

18
Let this be written for a future generation,
that a people not yet created may praise the Lord:
19
“The Lord looked down from his sanctuary on high,
from heaven he viewed the earth,
20
to hear the groans of the prisoners
and release those condemned to death.”
21
So the name of the Lord will be declared in Zion
and his praise in Jerusalem
22
when the peoples and the kingdoms
assemble to worship the Lord.

23
In the course of my life he broke my strength;
he cut short my days.
24
So I said:
“Do not take me away, my God, in the midst of my days;
your years go on through all generations.
25
In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
26
They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
Like clothing you will change them
and they will be discarded.
27
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.
28
The children of your servants will live in your presence;
their descendants will be established before you.”

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Not true. Read Ezra as quoted in Nehemiah; one reason for it is that it was to keep the Jews as a viable and distinct people. Didn't happen save temporarily.

Jesus? A bunch of stories wrapped around person. Read his quoted prediction of his "coming" as in Matthew (twice), and Mark, then in Paul.

We've been had (as a culture and society, that is).

If you don't believe it, read my stories and essays for mostly biblican proofs.

Peace and love.

w

Do your homework. They kept records back then. Jesus wasn't born at Bethlehem, because his parents were at Nazareth.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Actually, no. I started going to church on my own.

I didn't say anything about going to church.

I'm saying I bet most if not all of the important people in your life going all the way back to your childhood, your community, city,state and country are likely largely Christian.

If your name was Mombosodeekee and you were the great shamaness of the Undugu tribe you would be getting your love that you just knew was real from the great Shikaka, the ONLY TRUE GOD.

LOL isn't it funny how all gods are the one and only true gods? Every one of them...

Nothing as long as the participants aren't Thumpers.

I don't get it...the fuck is a Thumpers?

 

[pollynova]

I didn't say anything about going to church.

I'm saying I bet most if not all of the important people in your life going all the way back to your childhood, your community, city,state and country are likely largely Christian.

If your name was Mombosodeekee and you were the great shamaness of the Undugu tribe you would be getting your love that you just knew was real from the great Shikaka, the ONLY TRUE GOD.

LOL isn't it funny how all gods are the one and only true gods? Every one of them...



I don't get it...the fuck is a Thumpers?

You're right. I'll just give up everything I believe in.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You're right. I'll just give up everything I believe in.

The only think you believe in is your god?

You have nothing else??

Seriously?

No thoughts or anything of yourself?

 

[wistfall1]

Do your homework. They kept records back then. Jesus wasn't born at Bethlehem, because his parents were at Nazareth.

There may be no homework necessary. That Jesus existed is simply a good guess by researchers, and they may be right, then again, maybe not.

It's interesting that the tale of Jesus may indeed be wrapped around a few facts though. One may be the tale of Mary riding on a donkey to Bethlehem where Jesus supposedly was born. The problem with that, though, is that it's a long, long ride for a very pregnant woman to make from Nazareth to the Bethlehem where we're told his birth occurred.

The odd thing is that it may have truly happened, though no one can prove it, but how could Mary honestly make that trip as we're told.

Simple, if it did happen at all. The solution might be that there is a town of Bethlehem about 17 miles to the north west of Nazareth. Really! Another Bethlehem.

Look on the Internet and see for yourself. As I understand it, an Israeli archeologist was, or is, digging up there.

Another interesting item is whether Bethlehem of Judea (the popular one) even existed in the day that Jesus is supposed to have been born.

The money is on "Yes", but that "money" may be the dollars, or other currency, that is brought in by that maybe fable.

While not being a "researcher", I have looked into it. Check it out for yourself and see if you can figure out what is real, and what is not in the tales told in the bible--and they are tales.

Peace to you, and good hunting.

w

Edit to add: If you read my original post, I didn't say a word about where Jesus was born, or where he was supposed to be from. You may have confused my post with a post by someone else.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Polytheists and neo-pagans accept many gods. The big monotheistic cults are the Abrahamic and Sikh religions. Household gods are common. Thuor (Thor) had far more worshippers than his father Wodan (Odin) being the protector of humans. A farmer would venerate a fertility aspect before a war god. Odin although the top Norse good was probably venerated by poets more than farmers.

The Romans just superimposed the aspects of their gods over others. So for example Tiw (Germanic god of war)became Mars.

The Christian superimposed Jesus' birth over the birth of the new sun after the winter solstice.

Monday=Moons Day
Teusday= Tiw's Day
Wednesday=Wodan's Day
Thursday=Thuor's Day
Friday=Freya's Day
Saturday=Saturnalis Day
Sunday=Sun's Day

If you think symbols do not have a reality of their own. Try burning a US flag in certain parts of the country.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

There may be no homework necessary. That Jesus existed is simply a good guess by researchers, and they may be right, then again, maybe not.

It's interesting that the tale of Jesus may indeed be wrapped around a few facts though. One may be the tale of Mary riding on a donkey to Bethlehem where Jesus supposedly was born. The problem with that, though, is that it's a long, long ride for a very pregnant woman to make from Nazareth to the Bethlehem where we're told his birth occurred.

The odd thing is that it may have truly happened, though no one can prove it, but how could Mary honestly make that trip as we're told.

Simple, if it did happen at all. The solution might be that there is a town of Bethlehem about 17 miles to the north west of Nazareth. Really! Another Bethlehem.

Look on the Internet and see for yourself. As I understand it, an Israeli archeologist was, or is, digging up there.

Another interesting item is whether Bethlehem of Judea (the popular one) even existed in the day that Jesus is supposed to have been born.

The money is on "Yes", but that "money" may be the dollars, or other currency, that is brought in by that maybe fable.

While not being a "researcher", I have looked into it. Check it out for yourself and see if you can figure out what is real, and what is not in the tales told in the bible--and they are tales.

Peace to you, and good hunting.

w

Edit to add: If you read my original post, I didn't say a word about where Jesus was born, or where he was supposed to be from. You may have confused my post with a post by someone else.

Hillary makes bizarre claims all the time, and you and HEELS believe every word of it.

 

[phrodeau]

The stories about Mary and Joseph, from her virginity to the Finding in the Temple, were only written down a hundred years after the events, and none of the events were worth noting until Jesus became famous.

 

[Hard_Rom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

The historicity of Jesus concerns whether Jesus of Nazareth, born c 7–2 BC, existed as a historical figure, whether the episodes portrayed in the gospels can be confirmed as historical events as opposed to myth, legend, or fiction, and the weighing of the evidence relating to his life

One of the chief problems confronting scholars interested in the historicity of Jesus, like that of the historicity of King Arthur, is that there are no contemporary records of his life or existence.[3] Like many genuinely historical figures of antiquity, all records of his historicity come from one or more generations after his death, the earliest source being that found in the Epistles of Paul dated to AD 59, who discusses his crucifixion. Other sources such as that of Josephus or Tacitus date even later. Historians interested in the historicity of Jesus are confronted by discussing the nature of these historic records and the intention and points of view of their authors.[4][5]

Although there is "near universal consensus" among scholars that Jesus existed historically, biblical scholars differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the details of his life that have been described in the gospels

There are three mentions of Jesus in non-Christian sources which have been used in historical analyses of the existence of Jesus.[30] Jesus is mentioned twice in the works of 1st-century Roman-Jewish historian Josephus and once in the works of the 2nd-century Roman historian Tacitus.

Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to the biblical Jesus in Books 18 and 20. The general scholarly view is that while the longer passage, known as the Testimonium Flavianum, is most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then subject to Christian interpolation or forgery.[32][33] Of the other mention in Josephus, Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman has stated that "few have doubted the genuineness" of Josephus' reference to Jesus in Antiquities 20, 9, 1 and it is only disputed by a small number of scholars.[34][35][36][37] There is a total of three references to the name 'Jesus' in Book 20, Chapter 9: "Jesus, who was called Christ" (ie ' Messiah'); "Jesus, son of Damneus", a Jewish High Priest (both in Paragraph 1 ); and "Jesus, son of Gamaliel", another Jewish High Priest (in Paragraph 4).

Roman historian Tacitus referred to 'Christus' and his execution by Pontius Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.[38] The very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe.[39] The Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation of Christ's crucifixion,[40] although some scholars question the authenticity of the passage on various different grounds.

Scholars attribute varying levels of certainty to other episodes. Some assume that there are eight elements about Jesus and his followers that can be viewed as historical facts, namely:[13][83]
Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
He called disciples.
He had a controversy at the Temple.
Jesus was crucified by the Romans near Jerusalem.[13][83]
Jesus was a Galilean.
His activities were confined to Galilee and Judea.
After his death his disciples continued.
Some of his disciples were persecuted.[13][83]

Scholarly agreement on this extended list is not universal.