Cut The "GOD" Crap!!!

[BotanyBoy]

Math and science are manmade in a way. We use words we try to understand to help explain what we can't.

Who made up the word 'quark'? Or 'atsro-physics' for that matter?

The 'science' exists but maybe in terms we 'humans' never will understand despite our feebil attempts.

But none of that explains the nonsense known as 'religion'.

We understand the terms just fine, because we give them a specific meaning. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean none of us ever will.

No, because religion is about control, not understanding.

If we had listened to the American Psychiatric Association circa 1960 Gay would still be a mental disorder.

The Bible is full of errors. Jesus wasnt born at Bethlehem, there was ni synagogue at Nazareth. All Jewish women with no children were called virgins.

I mean, how much of your pot is tea?

No it wouldn't because Psychiatry is flexible and able to change it's views based upon the things psychiatrist observe, just as it did. Something religion is wholly incapable of.

Yea I get that, and self contradictions, that's why the clergy didn't want anyone able to read for themselves. Things went to shit for the church one the common man learned to read.....and just look at what the information era is doing! LOL just short of an asteroid or nukes sending all 8,000 survivors of the human race back to the stone age religion in the industrialized 1st world industrialized nation is all but dead.

No wonders conservatives hate science and education so much LOL

 

[contrifan32]

Why are humans so fucking stupid? You can't do this, you can't do that, you must do this, you must do that. If you don't it's a sin. If you do it's a sin. You'll go here. You'll go there.

WAKE UP YOU STUPID GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

There ain't no such fucking thing!!!!

When you die, you rot. You're bug food. You don't go anywhere. Your "Id' ain't no mo'.


God, Allah, Bubba, whatever you call it ....... it's all made up bullshit.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

Quit with the Bible shit. You want to read weird stories? Libraries are full of fiction.


This fucking Bible shit makes me blind with rage. It literally makes my head hurt and eyes go fuzzy.

I bet you one of those atheists thats always preaching tolerance

 

[contrifan32]

We understand the terms just fine, because we give them a specific meaning. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean none of us ever will.

No, because religion is about control, not understanding.



No it wouldn't because Psychiatry is flexible and able to change it's views based upon the things psychiatrist observe, just as it did. Something religion is wholly incapable of.

Yea I get that, and self contradictions, that's why the clergy didn't want anyone able to read for themselves. Things went to shit for the church one the common man learned to read.....and just look at what the information era is doing! LOL just short of an asteroid or nukes sending all 8,000 survivors of the human race back to the stone age religion in the industrialized 1st world industrialized nation is all but dead.

No wonders conservatives hate science and education so much LOL

You ignorance of religion is really quite amusing.

 

[phrodeau]

Math and science are manmade in a way. We use words we try to understand to help explain what we can't.

Who made up the word 'quark'? Or 'atsro-physics' for that matter?

The 'science' exists but maybe in terms we 'humans' never will understand despite our feebil attempts.

But none of that explains the nonsense known as 'religion'.

The word "quark" was coined by Murray Gell-Mann. "Atsro-physics" would be yours alone.

 

[Aella_]

The OP always brings up interesting topics. I googled it, and I came across this site. The site might not be an ideal one, but I enjoyed reading this page. It illustrates beautifully the deeper meanings of the Bible.



The Bible's Deeper Meaning
http://www.theisticscience.org/religion/bible.html

"The Bible has a deeper and more spiritual meaning in the words it uses and the stories it tells.
Once you see this, the Bible becomes an extraordinary tool for personal discovery.

1.Every single thing in the Bible has its own rich symbolic meaning, which helps us to understand our spiritual life.
- Many battles are mentioned in the Bible. We have battles inside us, conflicts between our selfishness and our desire to love other people.
- The Bible says that the people always won their battles when they obeyed God. 'God' means the highest truth we can know. When we choose to go with this truth instead of our ego, we will always win our battle.
- 'Mountains' stand for higher levels of awareness. 'Wells of water' describe our capacity to draw up or draw on true ideas from deep in our mind, to have access to truth that refreshes and cleanses us, as water does.

 

[Aella_]

2.Story of Creation

God made the world in six days and rested on the seventh. This is the opening chapter of the whole Bible. It is an outline of our spiritual journey; each 'day' is a distinct stage in the process of becoming a spiritual person.

Before we understand anything true, our mind is chaotic and without direction. God (that highest truth) commands there to be light. We now begin to see a focus, an alternative way, some options.
- On the second day, God commands waters above and below to divide. The two waters are our discovery that there are two levels to our life: a higher spiritual level of love and purpose, and a level of use and activity that serves the higher one.
- On the third day dry ground emerges. A solid base that we can depend on now forms in our mind. Our spiritual life can now begin to show itself in the very first plants, ideas growing in our mind that begin to take root.
- On the fourth day the light that was general is now identified as we look up and see the source of light, of truth.
- On the fifth and sixth days of creation living creatures appear: fish and birds in sea and skies, then animals that roam the earth. These symbolise the fact that we are created as free spirits with independent thoughts and feelings that motivate and fill us.

Now it can be said: Let us make human beings in our image and likeness. Being human means using our freewill and our rationality, knowing it comes from the highest source, from God who is truth."

 

[BotanyBoy]

You ignorance of religion is really quite amusing.

Don't suppose you care to point out any specifics and take a stand, stake something down and be responsible for it would you?

Or are you going to just make sweeping, ultimately meaningless commentary of the shit talking variety endlessly like eyer?

 

[NOIRTRASH]

We understand the terms just fine, because we give them a specific meaning. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean none of us ever will.

No, because religion is about control, not understanding.



No it wouldn't because Psychiatry is flexible and able to change it's views based upon the things psychiatrist observe, just as it did. Something religion is wholly incapable of.

Yea I get that, and self contradictions, that's why the clergy didn't want anyone able to read for themselves. Things went to shit for the church one the common man learned to read.....and just look at what the information era is doing! LOL just short of an asteroid or nukes sending all 8,000 survivors of the human race back to the stone age religion in the industrialized 1st world industrialized nation is all but dead.

No wonders conservatives hate science and education so much LOL

Religion evolves tho the old texts are static.

Back in 1821 one of my ancestors endured an ecclesiastical trial at his church after he bought and emancipated a slave. The slaves husband appealed to my ancestor to buy the woman and save her from deportment to Louisiana. Amy ancestor bought her and freed her. The church found out and put my ancestor on trial. His defense was simple: God intends for me to do good, and the opportunity came along. The whole thing is online.

If you haven't noticed they now have female clergy and gay clergy and all kinds of changes.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

My ancestors biography plus sermons, etc
https://archive.org/details/recollectionsofr00injohn

John Johnson was my 3rd great grandfather, Adam Clarke JOhnson, MD was my 2nd great grandfather, and Susannah Brooks-Johnson was the wife of John

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

the deeper meanings of the Bible.

Deeper meaning my ass......

Some Buds used to know this old lady named Mary. They called her 'anything for a shekel Mary' because she'd do anything or anyone for a shekel.

They wrote out a story about her and some loser named Joe - probably the only Dude that didn't do her. They figured it'd be a kick if she had a kid that wasn't his. For some stupid reason they decide to tell the story with this whore as some kind of virgin. That cracked everybody up that knew her.

When the kid oozed out, loser Joe about lost his lunch and groaned Ohhh Geezes .......


Stupid drunk ass stable hand acting as midwife wrote that down as a name.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Religion evolves tho the old texts are static.

Religion has adapted to new world laws that have one by one chipped away (most in outright defiance of) biblical law or in the case of the US just outright denied the Bible any more legal authority. Thank you founding fathers.

It does NOT change willingly in the face of observable facts.

Hell it doesn't even like laws of man to change, not even for the better, absolute defiance kicking and screaming the whole way.

If you haven't noticed they now have female clergy and gay clergy and all kinds of changes.

Only because US law doesn't recognize the Bible as a legal authority otherwise that shit would have NEVER happened. Even with US law it took almost THREE HUNDRED YEARS!!! Just to get some congregations to DEFY the infallible word of their god and treat women, brown/red/yellow/black and gay people like human beings.

And most of them are downright pissed the fuck off about it....a 20yr mandatory minim or one way ticket to GTMO away from going ISIS on their godless liburhul neighbors. If it weren't for the threat of that they would be out there doing GODS WORK!! Just like all the other uneducated religious nut bags living in 3rd world shit holes.

Education and easily available information are destroying religion at a quicker and quicker pace.

 

[dolf]

yes, I personally think it's bogus. yes, a lot of hateful people, who would be hateful whatever they did or didn't believe, like to use it as justification for their hate. but say if someone loses a child, or a parent, or is fighting cancer, if the only comfort they have is the belief that their loved one is safe with god, if that's the only thing that gets them out of bed in the morning, motivates them to carry on living, stops the grief from being unbearable... then only an inhuman fuckwit would ever try to take that from them.

OP, you're a douchebag.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The Buddhist are close. Buddha was a real person. Not a god or a son of a god. Just a man.
Some of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth have meaning. Charity and love thy neighbour (even if he hates you) are worthy of repeating. Maybe even be written down. The Quran actually stipulates what women can expect from a divorce settlement. No Christian of the same time period gave a thought to even allowing divorce.

Reading ancient religious texts is like reading old science journals. In the 50s and early 60s continents were thought to be uplifts of the crust not formed by continental drift and plate tectonics. Good writers like Isaac Asimov wrote about the theory. All debunked now.

As for an intelligent being that created the universe. Not plausible. In that context Bog is some inevitable chaos inducing thing-a-ma-bob that tore apart the perfection of the orderly singularity of everything that could be and made the universe explode into the existence we now see.

Gods are not real. They are symbolic manifestations of natural phenomenon and either desirable (gods) or undesirable (devils) human attributes. The Sanskrit word for devil is little god.

The god Odin had two ravens. Huginn and Muginn, Thought and Memory. An ancient way of describing the philosophical argument of the basis for human knowledge and reasoning. Primitives were thinking this sort of thing long before Descartes discussed whether reason or memory is the basis for human knowledge.

 

[lemonbread]

https://45.media.tumblr.com/f8cc3fdf357c7c2825ed14b241b79152/tumblr_n1m1e8VmB81rgtm2ko1_500.gif

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Deeper meaning my ass......

Some Buds used to know this old lady named Mary. They called her 'anything for a shekel Mary' because she'd do anything or anyone for a shekel.

They wrote out a story about her and some loser named Joe - probably the only Dude that didn't do her. They figured it'd be a kick if she had a kid that wasn't his. For some stupid reason they decide to tell the story with this whore as some kind of virgin. That cracked everybody up that knew her.

When the kid oozed out, loser Joe about lost his lunch and groaned Ohhh Geezes .......


Stupid drunk ass stable hand acting as midwife wrote that down as a name.

For real Mary came from a prosperous and influential commercial family. She was half Brit. I come from her brother, Joseph's line. Both descend from King David.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Religion has adapted to new world laws that have one by one chipped away (most in outright defiance of) biblical law or in the case of the US just outright denied the Bible any more legal authority. Thank you founding fathers.

It does NOT change willingly in the face of observable facts.

Hell it doesn't even like laws of man to change, not even for the better, absolute defiance kicking and screaming the whole way.



Only because US law doesn't recognize the Bible as a legal authority otherwise that shit would have NEVER happened. Even with US law it took almost THREE HUNDRED YEARS!!! Just to get some congregations to DEFY the infallible word of their god and treat women, brown/red/yellow/black and gay people like human beings.

And most of them are downright pissed the fuck off about it....a 20yr mandatory minim or one way ticket to GTMO away from going ISIS on their godless liburhul neighbors. If it weren't for the threat of that they would be out there doing GODS WORK!! Just like all the other uneducated religious nut bags living in 3rd world shit holes.

Education and easily available information are destroying religion at a quicker and quicker pace.

Religion's demise is the result of imposters administering churches. Clerics, once upon a time, had to do missionary work like Albert Schweitzer did in Africa.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Schweitzer
Albert Schweitzer Fundy Asshole

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Religion's demise is the result of imposters administering churches.

Creflo Dollar --- give unto me so I can buy me a private jet.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Are you sure those five inches are your heels, OP.

Be nice, most LIT girls pack 5 inches.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

yes, I personally think it's bogus. yes, a lot of hateful people, who would be hateful whatever they did or didn't believe, like to use it as justification for their hate. but say if someone loses a child, or a parent, or is fighting cancer, if the only comfort they have is the belief that their loved one is safe with god, if that's the only thing that gets them out of bed in the morning, motivates them to carry on living, stops the grief from being unbearable... then only an inhuman fuckwit would ever try to take that from them.

OP, you're a douchebag.

^

Worse yet. Not just a douchebag. Afraid to look, but I think she crawled out of Ampics.

 

[Liar]

Creflo Dollar --- give unto me so I can buy me a private jet.

The Gospel of Prosperity is one helluva gig.

 

[Ishmael]

Why are humans so fucking stupid? You can't do this, you can't do that, you must do this, you must do that. If you don't it's a sin. If you do it's a sin. You'll go here. You'll go there.

WAKE UP YOU STUPID GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

There ain't no such fucking thing!!!!

When you die, you rot. You're bug food. You don't go anywhere. Your "Id' ain't no mo'.


God, Allah, Bubba, whatever you call it ....... it's all made up bullshit.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

Quit with the Bible shit. You want to read weird stories? Libraries are full of fiction.


This fucking Bible shit makes me blind with rage. It literally makes my head hurt and eyes go fuzzy.

Really? Prove it.

Ishmael

 

[phrodeau]

The OP always brings up interesting topics. I googled it, and I came across this site. The site might not be an ideal one, but I enjoyed reading this page. It illustrates beautifully the deeper meanings of the Bible.



The Bible's Deeper Meaning
http://www.theisticscience.org/religion/bible.html

"The Bible has a deeper and more spiritual meaning in the words it uses and the stories it tells.
Once you see this, the Bible becomes an extraordinary tool for personal discovery.

1.Every single thing in the Bible has its own rich symbolic meaning, which helps us to understand our spiritual life.
- Many battles are mentioned in the Bible. We have battles inside us, conflicts between our selfishness and our desire to love other people.
- The Bible says that the people always won their battles when they obeyed God. 'God' means the highest truth we can know. When we choose to go with this truth instead of our ego, we will always win our battle.
- 'Mountains' stand for higher levels of awareness. 'Wells of water' describe our capacity to draw up or draw on true ideas from deep in our mind, to have access to truth that refreshes and cleanses us, as water does.

Nice site. The exact opposite of "everything in the Bible is literally true."

 

[Que]

Why are humans so fucking stupid? You can't do this, you can't do that, you must do this, you must do that. If you don't it's a sin. If you do it's a sin. You'll go here. You'll go there.

WAKE UP YOU STUPID GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

There ain't no such fucking thing!!!!

When you die, you rot. You're bug food. You don't go anywhere. Your "Id' ain't no mo'.


God, Allah, Bubba, whatever you call it ....... it's all made up bullshit.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

Quit with the Bible shit. You want to read weird stories? Libraries are full of fiction.


This fucking Bible shit makes me blind with rage. It literally makes my head hurt and eyes go fuzzy.

Yet another tolerant liberal showing their tolerance simply means tolerating that they already agree with.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Really? Prove it.

Ishmael

She cant. No one can.