What Exactly Is A Great Education?

[NOIRTRASH]

My great grandfather and his brother were schooled at home. One graduated Harvard, and the other got a PhD from Vanderbilt. One was a perfesser of modern languages, the other was a perfesser of classical languages.

What exactly is a great education?

Obama says Hillary and Bernie both guarantee kids will get great educations.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

No one knows.

 

[Aella_]

I like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. (from an outsider's perspective & from what I've seen on youtube & the net).
Why would you put them in the same category with Hillary?

 

[oggbashan]

According to an old book I have in my personal library, reading the editors' recommended list of 1,000 classic texts will give you a balanced and worthwhile education.

They were wrong.

 

[richard_daily]

My great grandfather and his brother were schooled at home. One graduated Harvard, and the other got a PhD from Vanderbilt. One was a perfesser of modern languages, the other was a perfesser of classical languages.

What exactly is a great education?

Obama says Hillary and Bernie both guarantee kids will get great educations.

Great educations give people the potential to be the best they can.

Clearly, you didn't get one.

 

[OjosMojo]

Great educations give people the potential to be the best they can.

Clearly, you didn't get one.

dick daily: the girlyman's jen.

 

[oggbashan]

Great educations give people the potential to be the best they can.

Clearly, you didn't get one.

dick daily: the girlyman's jen.

It seems OjosMojo didn't get one either.

 

[Aella_]

According to an old book I have in my personal library, reading the editors' recommended list of 1,000 classic texts will give you a balanced and worthwhile education.

They were wrong.

yeah, quite a difference between what a great education meant in Ancient Greece, for example
And nowadays, when (out of necessity and for practical purposes ) everything is narrow in scope and ultra-specialized.
I think that one has to be an auto-didact and to put a lot of effort into learning about the bigger picture.

 

[oggbashan]

yeah, quite a difference between what a great education meant in Ancient Greece, for example
And nowadays, when (out of necessity and for practical purposes ) everything is narrow in scope and ultra-specialized.
I think that one has to be an auto-didact and to put a lot of effort into learning about the bigger picture.

There has been a considerable change since I was at school. Then? Latin was essential. You couldn't go to Oxford or Cambridge Universities without a basic qualification in Latin.

Few schools now teach Précis, Logic, Rhetoric and Politics as part of an English Language course.

How many academic schools expect their pupils to use a Blacksmith's Forge, or to do basic Carpentry?

 

[Aella_]

There has been a considerable change since I was at school. Then? Latin was essential. You couldn't go to Oxford or Cambridge Universities without a basic qualification in Latin.

Few schools now teach Précis, Logic, Rhetoric and Politics as part of an English Language course.

How many academic schools expect their pupils to use a Blacksmith's Forge, or to do basic Carpentry?

In high school, Philosophy is still taught in some parts of Europe.
But on the other hand, I also admire americans' more practical/realistic approach.

 

[Sean]

Apparently B.o.B. didn't get spherical trigonometry in his education.

 

[Smootg103]

dick daily: the girlyman's jen.

thought yous was leaving brah?

 

[VaticanAssassin]

According to an old book I have in my personal library, reading the editors' recommended list of 1,000 classic texts will give you a balanced and worthwhile education.

They were wrong.

My daughter is in a 5th thru 12th Prep. Academy.

The reading list for all 7 grades is impressive and even I have not read them all. ( I will before she does however

While the school will provide the books it "encourages" parents to buy them:

"it has always been the tradition for students to develop a personal library of books that they mark in, keep and return to during their time"

I do not believe in 'marking' in books but that is her call. I have been torn between buying cheap paper backs or nice collector books she can keep. So far i have gone the cheapest hardback route.

I have been thinking about making her use the school copies and then buying her leather bound once each year is over.

This is her current 6th grade list:
Latin: Comedy of Errors 9780743484886
Lit./Comp. Shane 9780544239470
Lit./Comp. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer 9781593081393
Lit./Comp.The Hobbit
Lit./Comp. Across Five Aprils 9780425102411
Lit./Comp. Adventures of Robin Hood 9780141329383
Latin Ecce Romani I Language Activity Book

This is the current 12th grade list:
HL Confessions (Augustine) 9780199537822
Subject Book Title ISBN
HL Discourse on Method and Meditations on First Philosophy 9780760756027
HL The Essays: A Selection (Montaigne) 9780140446029
HL Hegel: Reason in History 9780023513206
HL King Lear (Folger Shakespeare) 9780743482769
HL New Oxford Annotated Bible*** 9780195289602
HL On Law, Morality and Politics 9780872206632
HL On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life 9780915144945
HL Othello 9780743477550
HL Paradise Lost 9780872207332
HL Brothers Karamazov 9780374528378
French IV Le barbier de Seville 9782035859082
French IV L'etranger 9782070360024
French IV Lettres de mon Moulin 9782266156288
Greek II Athenaze Workbook II 9780199363278
Spanish IV El tema de nuestro tiempo/La rebelion de las masas 9789700758060
Spanish IV Don Quixote 9780307475411

 

[Sean]

Latin Ecce Romani I Language Activity Book

Fuck me, those were the text books we used. First sentence on the first page is (or was): in pictura est puella romana.

(in the picture is a Roman girl.)

 

[oggbashan]

Fuck me, those were the text books we used. First sentence on the first page is (or was): in pictura est puella romana.

(in the picture is a Roman girl.)

I would have preferred Ecce Romani but it didn't exist then.

We had Bradley's Arnold and Kennedy's Latin Primer.

If we really wanted to learn easier than those two books: Teach Yourself Latin.

Now there's Latin For Dummies.

 

[Aella_]

Geez… that list sounds soo complex and over-the top.
Why don't they write an easier book called something like "Essentials of Modern Philosophy" or "Principles of x…" first, - instead of only cluttering their brain with all that stuff?

And they put "The Hobbit" on the list too?

 

[JohnnySavage]

Latin women are hot

 

[OjosMojo]

thought yous was leaving brah?

You did, monkeyboy?

The reading list for all 7 grades is impressive and even I have not read them all. ( I will before she does however

"even I", frat boy?

http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/Smileys/junkie_smileys_11/rotfl.gif

Self-erecting a wannabe military service record only Frizzle Fried could appreciate, now you're going to edumacate us about how learned you are, too?

http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/Smileys/junkie_smileys_11/rotfl.gif

 

[Aella_]

I would have preferred Ecce Romani but it didn't exist then.

We had Bradley's Arnold and Kennedy's Latin Primer.

If we really wanted to learn easier than those two books: Teach Yourself Latin.

Now there's Latin For Dummies.

Don't you even say it. That's how I started on a few extra-curricular topics - by reading the "Essentials of" or "For dummies" first.

 

[Sean]

I would have preferred Ecce Romani but it didn't exist then.

We had Bradley's Arnold and Kennedy's Latin Primer.

If we really wanted to learn easier than those two books: Teach Yourself Latin.

Now there's Latin For Dummies.

Did Teach Yourself Latin have a yellow and blue cover?

 

[Aella_]

Interesting to see the parallel talks from within this thread:
RichardDaily versus eyer on one hand, and then everyone else.

 

[oggbashan]

Geez… that list sounds soo complex and over-the top.
Why don't they write an easier book called something like "Essentials of Modern Philosophy" or "Principles of x…" first, - instead of only cluttering their brain with all that stuff?

And they put "The Hobbit" on the list too?

There is a series of Philosophy Books in cartoon form - Descartes, Hegel, etc.

They are great for grasping the essential differences.

These are NOT from those books.

http://www.chrismadden.co.uk/images/cartoons/my-first-book-of-existentialism-cartoon-cjmadden.gif

https://matthiasgiesen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/meaning-life5.jpg

 

[oggbashan]

Did Teach Yourself Latin have a yellow and blue cover?

Yes. That was the paper dustwrapper of the early editions. The cloth covers were light blue (and mine was stained with ink-blots).

http://lingvist.info/img/teach_yourself_latin_old_series

 

[Aella_]

There is a series of Philosophy Books in cartoon form - Descartes, Hegel, etc.

They are great for grasping the essential differences.

These are NOT from those books.

http://www.chrismadden.co.uk/images/cartoons/my-first-book-of-existentialism-cartoon-cjmadden.gif

https://matthiasgiesen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/meaning-life5.jpg

Wow…
They're really getting from better to great.

 

[oggbashan]

https://matthiasgiesen.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/nietzsche-en.jpg

http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/100419_cn4philosophers_p465.jpg

http://nbmpub.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/greeks.jpg