Movie Title Help!

[sethp]

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British Movie. Older woman, grey hair, frumpy, plump cheats on her old husband with a younger man. I think the older woman had two younger children and I think the young man or both lovers get shot in the end. Very taboo and erotic and weird. I'm thinking 1990s and it played on HBO very often, heavy rotation.

Period peace...ww 2 timeframe? Maybe based on a true story.

That's all I can think of. Help!

Didn't come up on any google searches I tried or if it did it was in the midst of a huge list and I missed it.

 

[oggbashan]

Could be White Mischief:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mischief_(film)

 

[sethp]

Nice Guess Ogg, but not it.

I'm missing something that is stopping it from coming up in the searches.

It's driving me absolutely nuts!

 

[sethp]

I'm obsessed now! blah...

Can't find it on any IMDB searches. Google's not helping. I must be leaving something out.

I remember an older man, he sleeps a lot. The woman is overweight, glasses, short curly grey hair. The seem to old to have children yet there are two, very young almost new borns. I'm not sure where the younger guy comes from, maybe he's related, like a stepmom or a hired hand. She seduces him and they nearly get caught many times...he starts to suspect something and I think he shoots the guy but I can't remember.

 

[MichaelinChina]

While you are thinking about that one, can I ask about a movie I saw way back in the 60's? I also don't know the title but it involved a group of miners (in England I think) trapped in a collapsed mineshaft. It was probably the first movie that I I found it so sad, I cried because they died so tragically.
Thanks.

 

[oggbashan]

While you are thinking about that one, can I ask about a movie I saw way back in the 60's? I also don't know the title but it involved a group of miners (in England I think) trapped in a collapsed mineshaft. It was probably the first movie that I I found it so sad, I cried because they died so tragically.
Thanks.

Was it this one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brave_Don't_Cry

 

[MichaelinChina]

Was it this one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brave_Don't_Cry

Thanks for the tip Ogg. 1952 seems too early. I recall there were some black actors in it. I think I was upset because of the heroism of the black miner/s to save the white ones. Does that ring any bells?

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Neither rings a bell, but while you're all thinking it over, maybe you can help me?

I'm thinking of a movie from the 80s. There's a guy in a hat and another in a tie, and then a woman that has hair. It's really sad at the beginning because of that thing that happened, but it's cheery at the end because the other thing happened later.

Q_C

 

[Nathan_Brazil]

I've got one

And yes, this is real.

Trailer trashy woman with an oddball daughter. Woman is dating a ultra straight guy who works for Sears in order to convince him to finance her dream...a new couch.

The daughter was conceived years before when the woman, who was at the time employed by a sperm bank was involved in a power failure accident that exposed her to a fridgefull of semen.

One of the plot lines involved figuring out who the father was.

I think members of Groundling Theatre were involved.

Yes... I was probably ripped when I saw this.

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

I'm obsessed now! blah...

Can't find it on any IMDB searches. Google's not helping. I must be leaving something out.

I remember an older man, he sleeps a lot. The woman is overweight, glasses, short curly grey hair. The seem to old to have children yet there are two, very young almost new borns. I'm not sure where the younger guy comes from, maybe he's related, like a stepmom or a hired hand. She seduces him and they nearly get caught many times...he starts to suspect something and I think he shoots the guy but I can't remember.

It might be 'Intimate Relations', with Julie Walters and Rupert Graves?

 

[sethp]

It might be 'Intimate Relations', with Julie Walters and Rupert Graves?

YES! Lori, I am in your debt forever! Thank you! How did you manage that with my terrible description and memory? Lol.

 

[49greg]

Could be White Mischief:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mischief_(film)

I remember that one. The scene with Sara Miles masturbating next to the body was in a "Playboy" issue, I think the article was something like "Sex in the Cinema", anyway a few years after seeing the article I came across the movie in a video rental shop.

I have no memory of the movie at all, except for the masturbation scene, and in the movie of my mind, it's a still from the Playboy article. The movie itself was forgettable, at least to me. Someone who lived there and then might find it more interesting, much like the fictional book, "My Life in Kenya" by the fictional Lionel Hardcastle in the TV series "As Time Goes By".

Edited: Just finished reading the wiki entry about the real case that the movie "Intimate Relations" was based on. Yikes.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

And yes, this is real.

Trailer trashy woman with an oddball daughter. Woman is dating a ultra straight guy who works for Sears in order to convince him to finance her dream...a new couch.

The daughter was conceived years before when the woman, who was at the time employed by a sperm bank was involved in a power failure accident that exposed her to a fridgefull of semen.

One of the plot lines involved figuring out who the father was.

I think members of Groundling Theatre were involved.

Yes... I was probably ripped when I saw this.

Did Jerry Springer make a second "Ringmaster"?

Q_C

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

YES! Lori, I am in your debt forever! Thank you! How did you manage that with my terrible description and memory? Lol.

I remember watching 'Intimate Relations' with my husband when he was in hospital; he had a TV in his room, the remote was broken, and the TV was on a wall-bracket and too high up for me to reach (I'm only 5 feet tall), so it was stuck on one channel. This movie happened to be on late one night, so I watched it while he was asleep because I couldn't reach high enough to change channels...

I have to admit, though, I'ill watch anything with Julie Walters, Maggie Smith, or Judi Dench.

 

[Nathan_Brazil]

Nope

Did Jerry Springer make a second "Ringmaster"?

Q_C

I swear... It was a real movie.

Very and deliberately over the top. 80s I think. Would love to find it and see if is as weirdly good as I remember.

 

[NaokoSmith]

Thanks for the tip Ogg. 1952 seems too early. I recall there were some black actors in it. I think I was upset because of the heroism of the black miner/s to save the white ones. Does that ring any bells?

Was it The Proud Valley, with Paul Robeson?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Proud_Valley

He had an ongoing special relationship with the miners in South Wales.

 

[MichaelinChina]

Was it The Proud Valley, with Paul Robeson?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Proud_Valley

He had an ongoing special relationship with the miners in South Wales.

Thanks for the suggestion but 1940 seems a little early Naoko. I'd imagine, from what I recall, the late 1950s.

From the wiki description, contemplation of race relations might be a little early. don't you think? But I could be wrong. Besides, given the beginning of WWII, 1940 would have been a strange time to be making movies wouldn't it?

Nevertheless, it's a strong contender; the bit about sacrificing his life for the white miners holds water. I was sure there was more than one black actor in it; I should go through the bios of the other actors in the movie.
I am not sure I was aware of Paul Robeson's stature as an actor then. Had I been, I'm sure I would have mentioned him.

 

[Handley_Page]

Thanks for the suggestion but 1940 seems a little early Naoko. I'd imagine, from what I recall, the late 1950s.

But I could be wrong. Besides, given the beginning of WWII, 1940 would have been a strange time to be making movies wouldn't it?

Wiki, as usual, provides an interesting sight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_films_of_1940

And making movies in wartime is perfectly logical, ain't it ? In addition to comedy (to keep the populace smiling) there's "information" films, to educate the public in some aspect of the crisis or other.

PS. Thanks for the prompt, though. I found an old Will Hay film on Youtube I've not seen.

 

[oggbashan]

Thanks for the suggestion but 1940 seems a little early Naoko. I'd imagine, from what I recall, the late 1950s.

From the wiki description, contemplation of race relations might be a little early. don't you think? But I could be wrong. Besides, given the beginning of WWII, 1940 would have been a strange time to be making movies wouldn't it?

Nevertheless, it's a strong contender; the bit about sacrificing his life for the white miners holds water. I was sure there was more than one black actor in it; I should go through the bios of the other actors in the movie.
I am not sure I was aware of Paul Robeson's stature as an actor then. Had I been, I'm sure I would have mentioned him.

Race relations in movies? British movies tackled that subject in the 1930s.

Paul Robeson received abuse for participating in movies with black stereotypes. He played Othello in London in 1930.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robeson

Robeson stated the best way to diminish the oppression African Americans faced was for his artistic work to be an example of what "men of my colour" could accomplish rather than to "be a propagandist and make speeches and write articles about what they call the Colour Question."

His starring role as Bosambo in the 1935-released movie Sanders of the River based on the Edgar Wallace novel was heavily criticised and led to his reconsideration of his attitude to race relations as did his visits to Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. He felt at home in Moscow but very uncomfortable in Berlin.

 

[MichaelinChina]

Race relations in movies? British movies tackled that subject in the 1930s.

Paul Robeson received abuse for participating in movies with black stereotypes. He played Othello in London in 1930.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robeson

Robeson stated the best way to diminish the oppression African Americans faced was for his artistic work to be an example of what "men of my colour" could accomplish rather than to "be a propagandist and make speeches and write articles about what they call the Colour Question."

His starring role as Bosambo in the 1935-released movie Sanders of the River based on the Edgar Wallace novel was heavily criticised and led to his reconsideration of his attitude to race relations as did his visits to Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. He felt at home in Moscow but very uncomfortable in Berlin.

Thanks ogg. Can always count on you to set the record straight - if the record ever needed straightening. Had I read further down that wiki I would have not made that point.