The Left on Political Correctness

[Sean Renaud]

Sometimes they don't care but we can't let that be what we preach. We have to preach yes they care and if this person doesn't you go to the next and the next. I'm not gonna sit here an pretend I'm Dr. Carson and would have stabbed a person. I am saying that to this day one of my mother's favorite stories is about how some kid was fucking with me and I eventually went after him with a crate. Without a time machine I cannot state how far things would have escalated if no adult had stepped in but I know that "I ain't no bitch" was something drilled into me.

Edit: Goddamnit what I am I doing that makes random frownies show up?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I agree that good is highly subjective. I agree completely with the first point though what exactly is the barest necessity? I ask because I noticed a post from you the other day where you seemed to think the Westboro Church's attacks on military funerals were over the line. From an emotional standpoint I completely agree but I'm not sure that passes the test for bare necessity. They could cremate their dead and hold a private meeting that nobody would ever know about or any of dozens of other ways to avoid that confrontation. They shouldn't HAVE to. I'm unclear on where precisely the government stepping in becomes a good thing.

Well, the barest necessity would be a prohibition against murder or theft. And as we consider further legislation from there, we ask the question whether this restraint is really necessary. Physical assault? Well, you can argue that people should have the ability to defend themselves, but some people don't through no fault of their own. So, no, a prohibition against unwarranted physical assault is reasonable and appropriate. The "line" obviously gets drawn at different places for different issues, but I believe we should generally tend to approach any legislation that would substantially restrict personal speech or liberty with that reluctant mindset. And at some point, the question as to what is reasonable and/or necessary will always be difficult to answer.

I was wrong about my initial legal analysis with regard to sanctions against Westboro Baptist Church. I still loathe their existence. I wouldn't be the least bit sad if they'd all die soon. But SCOTUS was absolutely correct to protect their despicable expressions of hatred.

 

[Aella_]

You mean like government whistle blowers and Clinton's rape victims?

Ishmael

Had to come back to it because your post was spot-on and so funny!
Indeed, I need to sound less dramatic or conspiratorial when discussing such things.

 

[Ishmael]

Had to come back to it because your post was spot-on and so funny!
Indeed, I need to sound less dramatic or conspiratorial when discussing such things.

Thank you.

I see that SR is consistently trying to dictate how people should talk, eat, tithe to the government. Generally dictate every facet of their life. Perhaps he should consider converting to Islam so he can dictate which hand they use to wipe their ass too.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Good point, actually, and in fact That might be one of the main differences.

That about sums it up. Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

I've been reading what the "Blondes" (Blonde in the stereo-typical context ) have been demanding. Essentially they're demanding to live in a fantasy world with the power of the government being used to enforce their make-believe life. The poor dears are so fragile you know? They want to forcibly silence anyone that dares utter anything that they might find 'hurtful.' And of course, that is a purely subjective, and apparently malleable, threshold. Not to mention the fact that we're already seeing a situation where one group can use a word/phrase but another group isn't. How soon before we start seeing group specific dictionaries of allowable and prohibited words? Who are they going to run to when their sheltered days in academia come to an end? Will this trickle down to the level where a parent telling a 4 year old that they were bad will land the parents before a judge on child abuse charges?

The vocal protesters at Mizzou are behaving like ignorant little pigs. And astoundingly the administration is caving to their piggishness. They have become the bullies they've been bitching about.

Ishmael

I woke up and put on the lying FAUX news and they are reporting that it is spreading to other Universities.



At least white male Liberal men are the ones hit hardest for a change.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Lmaoo…
He's a jackass, yet a funny one.

sigh picked that fight. Not I...



Don't let idiots frame me and then present me to you as a portrait.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No one spoke out?

The first German Concentration Camps were filled with those tens of thousands who had spoken out. Political opponents were arrested and sent to those camps. The camps had to be expanded very quickly because too many people were against the Nazis.

That's the mirror of being expelled from the Liberal haven of the University for the crime of having been the recipient of white privilege. It's not a real camp, but for the people who fostered and created this environment, it might as well be a gulag...

 

[Ishmael]

I woke up and put on the lying FAUX news and they are reporting that it is spreading to other Universities.



At least white male Liberal men are the ones hit hardest for a change.

*chuckle* Could there have been any doubt after Larry Summers experience at Harvard?

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

*chuckle* Could there have been any doubt after Larry Summers experience at Harvard?

Ishmael

None.

Must be a scary time for Pajama Boi...

 

[Ishmael]

I see where they're organizing a "Million Student" march. Loan forgiveness and 'free' school being the center pieces of this little charade. Good luck with those demands kiddies.

"Well then, I'm going to boycott my classes then."

"Fine, we already have your money and you're not getting any of it back. And if you flunk out or fail to register for the new semester we're going to have your ass arrested for trespass. So run along now and blow off your steam."

Ishmael

 

[about_average]

As for political correctness simply being good manners, that may be. But what gave anyone the right to think they can "legislate" and compel their personal standard of behavior on others. That is decidedly NOT good manners. It's arrogance.

The same thing that gave people the right to legislate prohibition of things that don't hurt anyone, other than making someone feel uncomfortable that someone is doing something they don't approve of.
Yes, arrogance.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I see where they're organizing a "Million Student" march. Loan forgiveness and 'free' school being the center pieces of this little charade. Good luck with those demands kiddies.

"Well then, I'm going to boycott my classes then."

"Fine, we already have your money and you're not getting any of it back. And if you flunk out or fail to register for the new semester we're going to have your ass arrested for trespass. So run along now and blow off your steam."

Ishmael

Notice that #BlackLiversMatter and OWS popped up at the same times in the election cycle.

#BlackLiversMatter has had access to the Democrat Party at the highest levels including the White House. Then again, so has the Muslim Brotherhood...

:shrug:

Turnout, turnout, turnout with a heavy gravy of Demographics...

 

[Disgustipated]

sigh picked that fight. Not I...

No. A woman smarter than you disagreed with you and you called her a cunt. Own it, you little turd.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

A dilemma:

The great thinkers of the past have tried to teach us how to behave in civilized and open societies. The English philosopher John Stuart Mill proclaimed that freedom of thought and expression are essential for both individuals and society as a whole. Anyone entering the main reading room of the New York Public Library reads the inscription over the door, “A good book is the precious lifeblood of a master spirit,” a line from John Milton’s Aeropagitica of 1644.

But even those who champion and defend the liberty to know, to utter, and argue freely according to conscience must be troubled by an imminent issue that arises at a time of increasing anti-Semitism in Europe and incessant terrorist attacks against the State of Israel. On January 1, 2016 the copyright of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler expires and anyone can print and distribute it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/what_to_do_about_hitler.html#ixzz3rJjwJPyY

 

[Sean Renaud]

Thank you.

I see that SR is consistently trying to dictate how people should talk, eat, tithe to the government. Generally dictate every facet of their life. Perhaps he should consider converting to Islam so he can dictate which hand they use to wipe their ass too.

Ishmael

It would be far easier to just join the right wing of America along with you. Hell the only thing on your list that's remotely accurate is that I'm trying to "dictate" how people should tithe to the government but isn't everybody? Isn't that one of those universal things everybody agrees on?

 

[about_average]

Perhaps he should consider converting to Islam so he can dictate which hand they use to wipe their ass too.

It's probably a good thing everyone use the left hand for that, so you know the other person doesn't have shit on his hand when you shake hands, or when he serves you food.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's probably a good thing everyone use the left hand for that, so you know the other person doesn't have shit on his hand when you shake hands, or when he serves you food.

So, you don't believe in washing your hands after a shit?

 

[Libsam]

Westboro has done a lot for protecting our First Amendment rights.

God works in mysterious ways!!


p.s. I do not agree with what they do (did? because the old man died and I haven't heard anything out of them since), it's disgusting, but their supreme court case was Extremely interesting.

 

[Libsam]

I can't help the feeling "political correctness" is taken here in a very un-correct way.

To me, it's not about good or evil, good or bad manners. It's simply about truth.



Why don't you all just stop talking? Y'all know the truth, no reason to discuss about it. P.C. or not, people will rather die than change their opinions.

Here is an example of PC "truth" in America:

"Safe Space" Students Silence Asian Woman For Saying "Black People Can Be Racist"

 

[PoppingTom]

Here is an example of PC "truth" in America:

"Safe Space" Students Silence Asian Woman For Saying "Black People Can Be Racist"

What exactly is the PC part of this?

Black people can be racist. Spike Lee did a whole movie about it ("Do The Right Thing").

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What exactly is the PC part of this?

Black people can be racist. Spike Lee did a whole movie about it ("Do The Right Thing").

No. The American Liberal defines racist as those who have the power to oppress.

That is what leads to the serious charge of white privilege.

Only whites can be racists.






Here's the real deal: the word actually means those whom think a certain genetic makeup makes a certain race superior. Now the word has morphed to mean bigotry. Well ten years ago it meant bigotry. Now it just means opposition to Liberal/Socialist Social Justice and societal engineering.

 

[PoppingTom]

No. The American Liberal defines racist as those who have the power to oppress.

Because you said so?

Here's the real deal: the word actually means those whom think a certain genetic makeup makes a certain race superior.

And that's still the meaning of it.

Not everybody shouting "racism" must be right about it. Not even if he/she is Black.

 

[oggbashan]

... On January 1, 2016 the copyright of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler expires and anyone can print and distribute it.

...

Mein Kampf was continually in print in the UK during WW2, in English and in German, on the basis of 'Know your enemy'.

Guderian's book on tank tactics was required reading for British Army officers - a much more useful book.

 

[Aella_]

Noam Chomsky: "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media"

Educated and privileged sectors see little problem in the fact that policies are executed in “technocratic insulation,” unimpeded by public interests and concerns. But the population has to be controlled somehow. For obvious reasons, one cannot appeal to them on grounds of the intended effects of the policies that are being implemented.

So other methods are required. There are standard devices:

Many can simply be locked up or confined to urban slums.
Others can be entrapped by artificial “creation of wants” or other forms of diversion.

They can be left in confusion and despair by corporate and other propaganda, a huge industry in the United States for many years.
Or they can be mobilized in fear and hatred – of foreigners, of one another – or by religious fundamentalist appeals.
To mobilize popular forces, the corporate world has been compelled to resort to what are called “cultural issues.” But its troops are now prepared to fight the “culture war,”

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Because you said so?
...

No, because they say so. It's been posted many, many times here on Lit.

LT, Izzy, et. al.