Stillbirth is a crime in America

[smoothg103rd]

Going by this thread alone, you and badbabysitter have got to be two of the dumbest dumbfucks in the whole universe.

Thanks.

 

[dolf]

I once had a miscarriage after I got food poisoning from recklessly eating smoked salmon at a buffet. I wonder how many years that deserved.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

I once had a miscarriage after I got food poisoning from recklessly eating smoked salmon at a buffet. I wonder how many years that deserved.

Eating fish while pregnant is never good. Why would you do that?
I don't mean you should have been punished as many pregnant women do lots of things that aren't healthy, I'm just curious.

 

[dolf]

pregnancy cravings are harsh.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

Huh?

Eating fish while pregnant is not good? Is this an American thing? All fish?

I know that we have to limit some oily fish because of pollutants, ( man made problems) but here its regarded that benefits still outweigh risk and its recommended once or twice a week through pregnancy. I also understand the risks with shell fish etc.

But much fish remains totally on the table through out pregnancy.



Dolf, that must have been a terrible experience. I should imagine a buffet where you got food poisoning from smoked salmon you might have got food poisoning from anything. What you deserve for it? Compassion, support and kindness. And a better quality of smoked salmon and buffets if you still like salmon.

Almost all fish has mercury. Some more than others. It is advised that women not eat certain kinds of fish and to not exceed rather small portions per week while pregnant.
And actually salmon is said to be better than others so the young lady probably wasn't doing anything wrong other than eating at a bad buffet.

 

[neci]

my question is, did the baby test positive for methamphetamines at birth? meth will induce early labor, and it is directly absorbed by the fetus. the baby was alive for 19 minutes. when i think stillborn, i think born dead. if a baby is born living and then dies from drugs 19 minutes later, at bare minimum i would call it child endangerment.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

my question is, did the baby test positive for methamphetamines at birth? meth will induce early labor, and it is directly absorbed by the fetus. the baby was alive for 19 minutes. when i think stillborn, i think born dead. if a baby is born living and then dies from drugs 19 minutes later, at bare minimum i would call it child endangerment.

The person who started this thread is clearly not thinking. He said stillborn when that wasn't the case then said it was weed when that wasn't the case. Pretty sure he didn't actually read the article.

 

[butters]

You are pregnant and shouldn't be smoking weed period. If you want to get high, use a condom.

and if you're fucking without protection, you should be weed-free for months since heavy users get fucked up sperm that can create a damaged baby.

You are carrying a fucking child. You shouldn't be doing anything toxic. Ten years isn't enough in my eyes. If I ever catch my babymother smoking weed while she is carrying my baby, I would break her fucking face. That dumb bitch deserves 20 years.

i agree with the bolded text.
as to the rest, you're going to put the child in even more danger just to feel righteous? grow. the. fuck.up.

I don't give two fucks about what she do with her pussy. But I give a lot of fucks about what she does what my baby. WEED FUCKS PEOPLE UP.

weed frequently does fuck people up - the greedy users, the substance abuser, the person whose brain is still developing.... and skunk's the worst.

I will go to jail over anybody hurting my child. I will slap the shit out my mother if she is hurting my child. I'll beat the breaks off Obama if he is hurting my child. My kids is what I live for, and I will die happily for them. If push comes to shove I will go to jail for them. HAPPILY, WITH MY FEET UP.

great father material

/sarcasm

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

Note that different countries advise differently on this sort of thing. I could not quote verbatim what advice in different countries I have lived in is, but know that fish remains on the menu, as its always topic among girl friends with kids. ( just not that relevant to me). Attitudes are taken differently to risk and balance differently in different places in diet and other things. Often this reflects cultural attitude of course.

Mercury is bad the whole world over.

 

[BotanyBoy]

weed frequently does fuck people up - the greedy users, the substance abuser, the person whose brain is still developing.... and skunk's the worst.

Which edition of Reefer Madness did you get that little bit from??

Skunk is just a generic strain flavor.....it can carry a punch but not carry any more compounds or a higher volume of compounds than dozens of stronger strains.

I have a skunk father that put's out very very low THC offspring and none of his flavor, the high CBD's though (real medical strain) and the fact that his seed will take mom's flavor make him a really great breeder.

Anyhow point is don't buy the propaganda no one strain of cannabis is more toxic/destructive/bad for you than another.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

Which edition of Reefer Madness did you get that little bit from??

It does stink to high heaven. last time I got some really good skunk I had to put it in a mason jar and then in the chest freezer just so the whole house wouldn't smell.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

But advice isn't the same. Its actually pcb's that are considered the risk with mainly oily fish here. High mercury fish like swordfish are advised to be avoided. But its advised that oily fish are still so valuable in the diet they should be included, just not every day.

Many fish are not limited by recommendation I am pretty sure.

If its a great concern I could probably dig up a link to show that advice is different.
Mercury is the same, but so is the benefits of fish and balanced diet I guess.

Tbh, any diet other than meth and chemicals and purely processed high sugar/salt low beneficial nutrition food might be considered beneficial I wonder? I do not know, I am not a nutritionist.

I do know lots of women who have had smoked salmon and who have not been in poor Dolf's position and neither have they been questioned on their choices.

for what its worth, while I think its creditable to question general choices, I think its pretty or show to ask someone why they ate something that lead to their miscarriage....I don't really care about fish, I do care about a human being being questioned on that like that as an issue, as opposed to a generalised, impersonal query.


Edit: I don't know you, and wish know offence, I don't know Dolf, and have know axe to grind.....I just.....don't like pain in that way. I was trying to show its not such a straight forward 'wrong" because other places really, its not the same. Just like other dietary situations aren't. I hope we can not row over this. I am not a fighter.

I would answer but...what?

 

[BotanyBoy]

It does stink to high heaven. last time I got some really good skunk I had to put it in a mason jar and then in the chest freezer just so the whole house wouldn't smell.

Sounds good to me B)

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's the law so they're really just doing their job. It can be ignored as is the case with many laws that are questionable to begin with but the woman was using meth while pregnant so I can't argue too much about the outcome.

Almost anything can be ignored. The DA simply has to say "I don't think we have enough evidence to win" and in most cases there isn't anybody to go to. That said DA's get paid to put people in jail and would take a shot if they thought they had a chance.

My point was that is you really believe that tripe this sort of thing should happen constantly.

Which edition of Reefer Madness did you get that little bit from??

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Hopefully the musical. That one is brilliant.

 

[butters]

Which edition of Reefer Madness did you get that little bit from??

Skunk is just a generic strain flavor.....it can carry a punch but not carry any more compounds or a higher volume of compounds than dozens of stronger strains.

I have a skunk father that put's out very very low THC offspring and none of his flavor, the high CBD's though (real medical strain) and the fact that his seed will take mom's flavor make him a really great breeder.

Anyhow point is don't buy the propaganda no one strain of cannabis is more toxic/destructive/bad for you than another.

thankyou for the edit.

in my admittedly limited experience, the local kids all buy (or aim to buy) skunk to use for its strength. we've had information through the door re the dangers of these ''stronger'' versions from local doctors, police, and drug-dependency units. i do know it smells way stronger than anything i used to smoke recreationally, and, according to all the information through the door/observation of the locals (including one of my sons before he quit altogether)/doctors warning of the dangers on tv, has far more impact on an individual's behaviour. incidences of mental illness, including paranoia and depression, occur at an inflated rate skunk v weed.

if all the information i've received is wrong, then my assumptions/conclusions are also wrong. what i've experienced in person argues against that, but i'm no botanist or chemist.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

thankyou for the edit.

in my admittedly limited experience, the local kids all buy (or aim to buy) skunk to use for its strength. we've had information through the door re the dangers of these ''stronger'' versions from local doctors, police, and drug-dependency units. i do know it smells way stronger than anything i used to smoke recreationally, and, according to all the information through the door/observation of the locals (including one of my sons before he quit altogether)/doctors warning of the dangers on tv, has far more impact on an individual's behaviour. incidences of mental illness, including paranoia and depression, occur at an inflated rate skunk v weed.

if all the information i've received is wrong, then my assumptions/conclusions are also wrong. what i've experienced in person argues against that, but i'm no botanist or chemist.

Wow, you really do get your information from Reefer Madness.

 

[butters]

Wow, you really do get your information from Reefer Madness.

so my having had to deal with a son's overuse and its effects on him is something to laugh about?

classy

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

so my having had to deal with a son's overuse and its effects on him is something to laugh about?

classy

No, your ignorance on the subject is something laugh about. You sound exactly like someone out of Reefer Madness.

 

[smoothg103rd]

and if you're fucking without protection, you should be weed-free for months since heavy users get fucked up sperm that can create a damaged baby.


i agree with the bolded text.
as to the rest, you're going to put the child in even more danger just to feel righteous? grow. the. fuck.up.

weed frequently does fuck people up - the greedy users, the substance abuser, the person whose brain is still developing.... and skunk's the worst.


great father material

/sarcasm

Ok. I'll just wait until she have the baby and get my sister to whop her ass. Better?

 

[butters]

No, your ignorance on the subject is something laugh about. You sound exactly like someone out of Reefer Madness.

if i'm ignorant on the subject, and i accept that's a credible possibility, then so are the majority of people. i get politicians have angles, i get that there are 'agendas' in police forces... but when the rehab bodies are agreeing with the police who say the same as the doctors who ... well, you should get my drift. if all these bodies are in agreement on the dangers, it carries more weight with me.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Sounds good to me B)

He could've just vacuum sealed it.

 

[butters]

Ok. I'll just wait until she have the baby and get my sister to whop her ass. Better?

and what if it turns out your child/potential future children is messed up medically because of your damaged sperm that created them? you gonna fuck yourself up?