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[miles]

"Originally Posted by phrodeau View Post
I agree. The majority of gun owners are paranoid, anti-government NRA shills."

Fro-do reaches new heights of stupidity.

 

[Que]

If you haven't noticed, pro-lifer busybody sure gets upset over gun deaths in Chicago.

I am pretty sure he could make the same case using only homicides by blunt objects and knives, if needed. #onlygundeathsbycopmatter

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hitler made great use of the German registration records.

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The Democrat Governor, Jay Nixon, got nailed for trying to keep new firearm permit applications in a secret administration record. I assume he was trying to keep up with Lois Lerner...

 

[toubab]

Totally! Casualties of War, right? Mushrooms, right? They don't matter, right? That 5 year-old girl comes from a long line of pro-gun lineage and would have happily died for Americans right to bear arms, right?

Do you agree that Americans have the right to bear arms, or not?

 

[Lancecastor]

In Austrailia they had national registration. They had bought the assurances that it was "only" registration. Even with theoretically every gun registered they only got 1/4. I guess the "paranoid" Aussies that warned what registration leads to weren't vocal enough.

We tried registering long guns in Canada, but that didn't go so well.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Do you agree that Americans have the right to bear arms, or not?

Do you believe that you will ever get a straightforward answer to a straightforward question?

These trolls only play offense. That's their only defense.

 

[Que]

We tried registering long guns in Canada, but that didn't go so well.

The premise, though maybe well-intentioned is silly on it's face. You only get compliance from the very people that you have no cause to worry about.

That they sort of have a paper trail on Americans own 270 million guns for 240 million adults. Just about everyone who does not personally own one would have a decent idea where to lay their hands on one if needed.

10 million new guns a year are manufactured or imported.

On those numbers alone, and assuming that every gun is more or less salvageable as long as you have an intact, functioning receiver suggest we have close to 350 million guns or more.

In a country that can't keep bales of pot from being imported, how would they possibly stop the demand for 10 million new guns a year at $600 a pop?

No one with 1/2 a brain seriously thinks it is possible to reduce the number of guns in America. It is only brought up so that those without them can feel morally superior for being unprepared.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Furthermore, every time there is a shooting outside of the Liberal Democrat cities, where it is just part of the backdrop and diversity of life, and the same angry Liberal voices start chanting, disarm the conservatives, disarm the conservatives, then they get the exact opposite of what they clamor for because these loud angry temper tantrums invariably lead to a spike in the sales of guns and ammo.

 

[Disgustipated]

Do you agree that Americans have the right to bear arms, or not?

Yes.

Do you believe that you will aver get a straightforward answer to a straightforward question?

These trolls only play offense. That's their only defense.

Troll? You spend your mornings copying & pasting American Thinker and offer none of your own opinions whilst sniping behind your cowardly iggy bunker. Now fuck off, AJ.

 

[Aella_]

Looool, 4est!!
Sounds like somebody's been reading your "Cat-Lovers Candidate" thread, because our joke re "American Thinker" really caught on.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

My troll is following me screaming at the top of his lungs:

I am NOT a TROLL!​

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

A rational examination of "gun deaths:"

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/04/the-truth-about-gun-deaths-numbers-and-actual-solutions/

 

[Lancecastor]

A rational examination of "gun deaths:"

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/04/the-truth-about-gun-deaths-numbers-and-actual-solutions/

Funny article!

Turns out almost nobody's been killed by a bullet after all!

Who knew???

 

[about_average]

LOL his gun control agenda?

Just what would that be.....his agenda to do jack and shit???

If American Thinker still can't get it right about the "gun free zone" on Oct 4, why would anyone believe any of their other "facts"?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Almost every mass shooting in the United States has had two common elements: the use of firearms by severely mentally disturbed individuals.

I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who believe the solution to this tragedy is to attempt to control the movement of tens of millions of legally and illegally procured firearms rather than controlling, through treatment (either voluntarily or court ordered) the thousands or even tens of thousands of potentially violent psychotics.

 

[about_average]

Its not the mental illness that is doing this. That is just something to blame

Right. Someone who walks in to a place and starts randomly shooting people is perfectly healthy, mentally.

 

[Que]

Almost every mass shooting in the United States has had two common elements: the use of firearms by severely mentally disturbed individuals.

I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who believe the solution to this tragedy is to attempt to control the movement of tens of millions of legally and illegally procured firearms rather than controlling, through treatment (either voluntarily or court ordered) the thousands or even tens of thousands of potentially violent psychotics.

I don't think that the anti-gun people seriously think that transfers of guns can be controlled. No rational person could believe that. They just celebrate each of these tragedies as a chance to feel like they are on the side of truth and light for wanting there to be less guns.

I was looking up statistics just now on gun control sentiment. The most interesting answer to a question I found was:

"57 percent of Americans said gun ownership was more helpful in protecting people from becoming victims of crime, and 38 percent said it did more to endanger one’s safety." -NYT paraphrasing Pew Research.

Now think about that. It makes sense for people to believe that if they lived on an island with no guns that they would be safe from guns. I buy that. But given that guns exist and criminals and crazies have them, how could anyone feel individually safer if they, personally, have no gun than if they have one?

There are only 62% of the people there that make any sense. The 57% that right or wrong at least presume that a gun might protect them, and the 5% that apparently think it would neither do any harm, nor help. The 38% that feel unsafe if THEY have a gun are simply reporting some visceral reaction to the idea of a gun.

 

[Sean]

I don't think that the anti-gun people seriously think that transfers of guns can be controlled. No rational person could believe that. They just celebrate each of these tragedies as a chance to feel like they are on the side of truth and light for wanting there to be less guns.

I was looking up statistics just now on gun control sentiment. The most interesting answer to a question I found was:

"57 percent of Americans said gun ownership was more helpful in protecting people from becoming victims of crime, and 38 percent said it did more to endanger one’s safety." -NYT paraphrasing Pew Research.

Now think about that. It makes sense for people to believe that if they lived on an island with no guns that they would be safe from guns. I buy that. But given that guns exist and criminals and crazies have them, how could anyone feel individually safer if they, personally, have no gun than if they have one?

There are only 62% of the people there that make any sense. The 57% that right or wrong at least presume that a gun might protect them, and the 5% that apparently think it would neither do any harm, nor help. The 38% that feel unsafe if THEY have a gun are simply reporting some visceral reaction to the idea of a gun.

No, that's exactly waht the actual facts say. If you own a gun you are far more likely to die by gun violence. Fact.

 

[Disgustipated]

No, that's exactly waht the actual facts say. If you own a gun you are far more likely to die by gun violence. Fact.

What?! What ever could you possibly mean? Or, ya know, other terrible things could happen.

Boy, 11, charged with murder in Tennessee 8-year-old's death

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Hitler made great use of the German registration records.

​

The Democrat Governor, Jay Nixon, got nailed for trying to keep new firearm permit applications in a secret administration record. I assume he was trying to keep up with Lois Lerner...

Well, it took you long enough to invoke Godwin's Law.

Next you'll be accusing the Democrats of wanting to march you off to the ovens.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

In Austrailia they had national registration. They had bought the assurances that it was "only" registration. Even with theoretically every gun registered they only got 1/4. I guess the "paranoid" Aussies that warned what registration leads to weren't vocal enough.

When was the last time there was a mass shooting in Australia?

Just before they said enough was enough and made their gun laws much more strict.

 

[about_average]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQfoycaUsAAbERi.jpg

It's weird that the only place I can find the doctored pic is on twitter...or maybe that's not actually so weird.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

If you haven't noticed, pro-lifer busybody sure gets upset over gun deaths in Chicago.

Koalabear was of the same mold, bless his deceased worm-food heart. He'd tell us every day about gun deaths in Chicago as if he were a cosmic sentinel standing watch over the city on a promontory and you could practically feel the tears of genuine compassion for urban dwelling humanity running down his cheek when he posted.

And only Chicago, too. I reckon that focusing on any more cities other than there would've broken him down like a Lego set and sent him away from us faster, curse this wretched life on this blue marble of ours.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/80fd38120217b440236797cd33ad95ee/tumblr_inline_ng3ga7PpaS1rxygqf.gif

 

[Sean]

It's weird that the only place I can find the doctored pic is on twitter...or maybe that's not actually so weird.

http://m.snopes.com/cnn-altered-photo-umpqua-shooter/

Just another Busybody lie.

 

[Que]

No, that's exactly waht the actual facts say. If you own a gun you are far more likely to die by gun violence. Fact.

You really ought to attend rehearsal so you don't keep screwing up the talking points.

You are supposed to say, "If you own a gun you are X% more likely to be involved in a shooting."

You then conveniently leave out that the shooting might include suicides (I could see where that could give you pause) and those shootings where you, yourself, fire the gun in defense of yourself.

It is not a fact that gun owners are more likely to die by a gun.