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Reports are that Christians were shot I head

Others in leg

Once it becomes obvious its a Muslim attack, we will be told it's a natural reaction to Ache Mad the clock creep
 
Some of these people wanted to weigh in, but they did not want to read the other comments and take part in the discussion.

:eek:
 
Sean said:
What the fuck is wrong with your country?
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Too many sheepeople, not enough cowboys

Aella_ said:
pretty typical of this Board, actually.
Some of us (mainly gals) cannot have a f..g discussion without it degenerating in some form of pissing contest.
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Actually it's the rule these days.

DesEsseintes said:
You are right. A loaded term, as it were, and I withdraw it. 'Focus'? Unusually high levels of gun crime compared with other first world countries, shall we say?

Anyway, it was a constitutional point about placing within the Bill of Rights. Most advocates of gun freedom (I am trying to be neutral here), or very limited restrictions on gun ownership, see the second amendment without the important first section: 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State'. Only the last part, for example, is quoted by the NRA on the side of its buildings, etc.

Furthermore, such advocates see the second amendment as following on from the first amendment, in that it guarantees a personal freedom. As such, the right to bear arms is one with the freedom of speech, association, etc, etc.

Other constitutionalists, however, and with as much justification ( I say no more), see the second amendment linked far more closely in spirit with the entirely uncontroversial third amendment: 'No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.' If, in short, we see 1+2 as linked together, with the uncontroversial 3 a hangover from Revolutionary times and no longer relevant, we are likely to see gun freedom as fundamental to our sense of individual liberty. If, on the other hand, we see 1 as the amendment dealing with personal, individual freedoms, and 2+3 linked together as corporate freedoms relating to self-defence against a regular standing army, then we are likely to see gun freedom as fundamentally less essential, and standing on far weaker ground, than the first group.


I have not expressed it as well as he did, of course, and I expect you have heard it before. But for me it was an interesting angle.
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^^ just so English of you and why we had to kick your asses twice AND come save you in two world wars. You understand the 2nd amendment as much as your ancestors understood the colonies. :D
 
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snugglestruggle said:
Too many sheepeople, not enough cowboys



Actually it's the rule these days.



^^ just so English of you and why we had to kick your asses twice AND come save you in two world wars. You understand the 2nd amendment as much as your ancestors understood the colonies.
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lol

Des, it was just funny. Not agreeing (too terribly much)...
 
hazbeen said:
What is the solution:rolleyes:
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There is no One solution. There is no One Ring either (in case you still thought those were documentaries). But one thing is certain - that a feel good gun law, won't stop shootings.

If you want a solution: Ban Possession of Firearms. Then institute an armed house to house search. Call in all of the Federal 4473 forms, subpoena every state's concealed carry holder list, have the USPS grab the gun lobby mailing lists and then start searching all of those residences and confiscating the firearms, charging those who have not turned them in with felony possession and putting them in jail.

Then, use HHS to institute mandatory annual mental health checkups or pay a forfeiture tax. Those who show red, or even orange or yellow will receive the care they need (mandatory for insurance companies).

Also: Legalize drugs (all of them).

And
 
warrior queen said:
Once again, an armed crazy person shot a whole bunch of people....
I would have thought, given the total inability to regulate firearms, that someone would have realised that any place where people gather in large numbers (movie theatres, schools, sporting events, churches, etc) is vulnerable to these crazies and would have taken steps by now to protect them.
Seriously..... one unarmed security guard?
What about metal detectors, armed security, and whatever else can be put in place?
Too expensive?
Put a Security Tax in place and charge all current gun owners with the cost of providing safeguards to protect as many innocent people as is possible.
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A voice of reason on GB .
 
kbate said:
There is no One solution. There is no One Ring either (in case you still thought those were documentaries). But one thing is certain - that a feel good gun law, won't stop shootings.

If you want a solution: Ban Possession of Firearms. Then institute an armed house to house search. Call in all of the Federal 4473 forms, subpoena every state's concealed carry holder list, have the USPS grab the gun lobby mailing lists and then start searching all of those residences and confiscating the firearms, charging those who have not turned them in with felony possession and putting them in jail.

Then, use HHS to institute mandatory annual mental health checkups or pay a forfeiture tax. Those who show red, or even orange or yellow will receive the care they need (mandatory for insurance companies).

Also: Legalize drugs (all of them).
:rolleyes:
And
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:rolleyes:idiot


But tell you what.....lets get rid of the 2nd ammendant as well as the one that allows cunts to vote:rolleyes:
 
kbate said:
There is no One solution. There is no One Ring either (in case you still thought those were documentaries). But one thing is certain - that a feel good gun law, won't stop shootings.

If you want a solution: Ban Possession of Firearms. Then institute an armed house to house search. Call in all of the Federal 4473 forms, subpoena every state's concealed carry holder list, have the USPS grab the gun lobby mailing lists and then start searching all of those residences and confiscating the firearms, charging those who have not turned them in with felony possession and putting them in jail.

Then, use HHS to institute mandatory annual mental health checkups or pay a forfeiture tax. Those who show red, or even orange or yellow will receive the care they need (mandatory for insurance companies).

Also: Legalize drugs (all of them).

And
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okay

I laughed...

Especially, "There is no One Ring either (in case you still thought those were documentaries)."
 
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