What is your opinion of hssh345?

[Sean]

Do that, please. Not sue if I recall laughing at that one.

Okey dokey.

 

[Sean]

Classic stuff:

It's been an interesting two day LK. The FBI refered me to another agency who dragged in a third.

What, if anything is going to happen, I don't have a clue and I'll probably be the last to know. I suppose that if nothing else, Lit. is going to get some scrutiny. They all agree that had LT used a telephone to pull that shit, he'd be in jail right now. Whether or not he used his own name. The issue is how that might apply to the internet.

I also know that the squeaky wheel gets the grease and I now have a name and a number. And will be a little more diligent in documentation in the future.

Perhaps if it causes Laurel a little trouble she'll be somewhat quicker to clean the trash off the board.

Ishmael

 

[Laurel]

Reading primary source documents on the Columbine shooting led to my skepticism for news agencies. They got it so wrong, and once they knew their reports had been wrong, they stuck to their original story of the tragedy.

Yeah, I think they saw that the "poor bullied kids finally had enough" meme really resonated with people and so they went with it - even though it was contrary to facts.

There's a great book about it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_(book)

 

[lovetoread]

Did you know that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold - the Columbine killers - were not at all social misfits but in fact had many friends, frequently attended school events such as dances and football games, and had been to prom with their dates the weekend before the shooting? In fact, they themselves bullied other students.

I was bullied pretty hard in junior high school. I didn't murder anyone, because I'm not an asshole sociopath.

There are users who spend years here without ever getting into fights with anyone. They do this by posting friendly posts with friendly people. The person for which this thread was named likes to find the biggest fight on the forum and jump in, taking sides, calling other people names. She's even called me names sometimes, on threads where I hadn't made a single post and in discussions completely unrelated to me. (Which I don't take personally, because it wasn't meant as such.)

It's entirely her right to do so, and it looks like she's having fun. There is no "bullying" happening here. The Gee Bee is the least moderated forum on the site - moderated only by me and Manu. There are other places you can post if arguments are not to your taste.

If you (and this applies to you and to her, and to anyone else), step into flamewars between longtime users and start opinionating/telling people off, you will get pushback. That's how life works. You don't want pushback? Don't post on flame threads! It's really that simple.

Yep, head bully right here.

 

[yossi]

There are users who spend years here without ever getting into fights with anyone. They do this by posting friendly posts with friendly people.

Get the fuck outta here. I don't believe it!

 

[hashtag45]

The person for which this thread was named likes to find the biggest fight on the forum and jump in, taking sides, calling other people names. She's even called me names sometimes, on threads where I hadn't made a single post and in discussions completely unrelated to me. (Which I don't take personally, because it wasn't meant as such.)

It's entirely her right to do so, and it looks like she's having fun. There is no "bullying" happening here. The Gee Bee is the least moderated forum on the site - moderated only by me and Manu. There are other places you can post if arguments are not to your taste.

I'm flabbergasted that Laurel has this attitude and is so in love with her bullies.

A few posts ago, she claimed that she didn't know much about me until she read this thread.
Now she makes up this thing that I called her names??? The only time when I criticized Laurel -in a bit aggressive, I have to admit - nevertheless respectful manner- was re the Ishmael/VatAssassin thing. I pointed out that. although she was right, partially, I felt she was taking sides, -- just as a personal opinion. I didn't demand anything of her.

If Laurel feels the need to make things up and discredit me in order to make her bullies look good,

Oh well, her choice.
Just a bit strange,
Just sayin

EDIT
Nevertheless, despite my flaws and things that I've done here (and I agree I've done some not ok things, too)
there are certain things that are unacceptable, imo. And I am not self-righteously inserting myself here, because they are common-sense:
- bullying a grieving father over his son
- bullying a person who revealed is suffering from a life-threatening illness
- bullying a mother over her kids with learning disabilities
- and many others. Aka using personal details that some posters slipped in order to mock them . Ie his/her house looked so and so etc. etc,

There are certain lines that keep crossed here on a regular basis, and if we bystanders don't step in to set limits on those who do them, this place will only got worse

 

[Sean]

87.
..

 

[lovetoread]

The owner is the bully.

The owner is not fair.

The owner should kick this ass off of the board.

 

[Laurel]

I'm flabbergasted that Laurel has this attitude and is so in love with her bullies.

A few posts ago, she claimed that she didn't know much about me until she read this thread.
Now she makes up this lie that she knows I jump into fights and that I called her names??? The only time when I criticized Laurel -in a respectful manner- was re the Ishmael/VatAssassin thing. I pointed out that. although she was right, partially, I felt she was taking sides, -- just as a personal opinion. I didn't demand anything of her.

If Laurel feels the need to make things up and discredit me in order to make her bullies look good,

Oh well, her choice.
Just a bit strange,
Just sayin

1) They're not "my" bullies. They're people who post here, just like you. If they're "mine", then you are as well.

2) They are doing exactly the same thing as you are - speaking their opinion. If they are bullies, then you are as well. That's my point.

If you don't want to fight, then don't post in fighty threads.

If you enjoy posting in fighty threads, then that's great. Have a blast. But don't get indignant at others who are doing the same thing you're doing. That's all!

 

[yossi]

You know, I don't read all of your posts, but from what I've seen I have to say that you are actually amazing!

A few posts ago, she claimed that she didn't know much about me until she read this thread.

Not really.

 

[hashtag45]

EDIT
Nevertheless, despite my flaws and things that I've done here (and I agree I've done some not ok things, too)
there are certain things that are unacceptable, imo. And I am not self-righteously inserting myself here, because they are common-sense:
- bullying a grieving father over his son
- bullying a person who revealed is suffering from a life-threatening illness
- bullying a mother over her kids with learning disabilities
- and many others. Aka using personal details that some posters slipped in order to mock them . Ie his/her house looked so and so etc. etc,

There are certain lines that keep crossed here on a regular basis, and if we bystanders don't step in to set limits on those who do them, this place will only got worse

No, I stand my case, Laurel.
They are Your bullies, if you think the above behaviors are passable and my lashing out at them (however inappropriate I was, indeed) is the inappropriate thing here.
Not saying that you should intervene as a website owner, but it is clear to me that you are not impartial.
- the fact that you intervened here in order to highlighting my (and I agree that I've done things, too) bad behaviors,
- but you never intervened to shame Your bullies, whenever they engaged in the above lovely personal attacks

 

[Sean]

No, I stand my case, Laurel.
They are Your bullies, if you think the above behaviors are passable and my lashing out at them (however inappropriate I was, indeed) is the inappropriate thing here.
Not saying that you should intervene as a website owner, but it is clear to me that you are not impartial.
- the fact that you intervened here in order to highlighting my (and I agree that I've done things, too) bad behaviors,
- but you never intervened to shame Your bullies, whenever they engaged in the above lovely personal attacks

Shut the fuck up, retard.

 

[Laurel]

No, I stand my case, Laurel.
They are Your bullies, if you think the above behaviors are passable and my lashing out at them (however inappropriate I was, indeed) is the inappropriate thing here.
Not saying that you should intervene as a website owner, but it is clear to me that you are not impartial.
- the fact that you intervened here in order to highlighting my (and I agree that I've done things, too) bad behaviors,
- but you never intervened to shame Your bullies, whenever they engaged in the above lovely personal attacks

But you do the same thing as them, though.

You take sides in conflicts, just like they do.

You call people out, just like they do.

Why are they bullies, but not you?

 

[Sean]

But you do the same thing as them, though.

You take sides in conflicts, just like they do.

You call people out, just like they do.

Why are they bullies, but not you?

I'd like to register a complaint, hssh345 is bullying me.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Shut the fuck up, retard.

Eat a dick,pussy. Hssh,could say what she wants, when she wants. Who the fuck are you to tell her to shut up? You wouldn't tell someone to shut up in real life. Cause you know that they're going to break foot off in your punk ass. So why tell someone here?

 

[hashtag45]

But you do the same thing as them, though.

You take sides in conflicts, just like they do.

You call people out, just like they do.

Why are they bullies, but not you?

This is No Longer about me, stop trying to deflect things, Laurel.
This is no longer a contest as to is Hssh the bully or is "The Clique "(as I sometimes name them, in my mind) the bullying party. You can agree that we are all bullies, I don't care.

The question that I -perhaps self-righteously and entitled, I don't give a rat's ass what people think of me- have been asking users is: are we gonna accept these behaviors or are we gonna let them slide.

And I am not the "caring" type or pretend to be miss "gooddie two shoes" here, because, as you said, I've done not ok things, too.
But I am focused on Me and My personal online experience here. Because I personally get quite distressed and anxious whenever I see the above type of personal attacks (ie mocking someone's family or dead fam. members, mocking someone's cancer etc.) I just want to enjoy my own online experience.

 

[Laurel]

I just want to enjoy my own online experience.

Then maybe you should try...not posting in flame threads, and post instead in any one of the many dozens of non-flame threads?

If you don't enjoy threads full of people calling each other names, then why post in them?

Because those people in those threads? They (for their own reasons) enjoy flaming each other. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

You have complete control over your own online experience. You can Ignore posters. You can choose which threads to read and not-read.

But, you don't have the right to control other people's online experiences. So long as they obey our Forum Rules and the individual forum guidelines, they're free to do their thing.

So please enjoy your online experience - by taking control of your it, via your own posting and your Ignore list.

 

[hashtag45]

Then maybe you should try...not posting in flame threads, and post instead in any one of the many dozens of non-flame threads?

If you don't enjoy threads full of people calling each other names, then why post in them?

Because those people in those threads? They (for their own reasons) enjoy flaming each other. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

You have complete control over your own online experience. You can Ignore posters. You can choose which threads to read and not-read.

But, you don't have the right to control other people's online experiences. So long as they obey our Forum Rules and the individual forum guidelines, they're free to do their thing.

So please enjoy your online experience - by taking control of your it, via your own posting and your Ignore list.

There are two spotlights that you and I are focusing on here:
- you are trying to focus on Me and my bad behaviors, my type of horizontal aggression
- and I am trying to focus on Them and their type of horizontal aggression that I find unacceptable (attacking people on painful aspects of their personal lives outside the forum).

You seem to think that I asked you to take sides in this thread(me or the Clique).
However, I am not the one who started the vanity thread here, and you intervened on your own accord here, I did not ask you any questions until you decided to intervene and shift the spotlight from them to me. Until you intervened, it was a dispute between me and them, not you and me.

So we'll just continue as before, then.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

heh heh

You could say this thread is turning into a bully pulpit.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/09/illK6U.gif

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http://i.imgur.com/vXwkyAB.gif

 

[hashtag45]

heh heh

You could say this thread is turning into a bully pulpit.

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oh boy, icing on the cake,
Zumi trying to diffuse the situation with his jokes…

 

[Disgustipated]

Q-Bert is following Lance down the path to eternal sadness.

 

[Laurel]

There are two spotlights that you and I are focusing on here:
- you are trying to focus on Me and my bad behaviors, my type of horizontal aggression
- and I am trying to focus on Them and their type of horizontal aggression that I find unacceptable (attacking people on painful aspects of their personal lives outside the forum).

You seem to think that I asked you to take sides in this thread(me or the Clique).
However, I am not the one who started the vanity thread here, and you intervened on your own accord here, I did not ask you any questions until you decided to intervene and shift the spotlight from them to me. Until you intervened, it was a dispute between me and them, not you and me.

So we'll just continue as before, then.

https://media.giphy.com/media/tq4PuoUVgsK9q/giphy.gif

 

[hashtag45]

Q-Bert is following Lance down the path to eternal sadness.

Are you… I don't know what to call you anymore.
You know I get v. irritated when you imply that I am Query or Q-Bert (I showcased his picking on me only to demonstrate I'm not him). You are only trying to push my buttons.
And yes (don't think he'll be exactly flattered when he'll hear this) I agree with and like Lance as a poster, but I'm not in his Clique, nor do I group with him.

 

[BabblingBrooke]

Hashy, you seem to be mostly in dispute with yourself, you poor dear.

 

[hashtag45]

https://media.giphy.com/media/tq4PuoUVgsK9q/giphy.gif

great, Laurel,
thanks for that, hope we'll be ok from now on