Men's Rights Activists are carving a BLOODY LEGAL SWATH through feminism in Californi

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://news.yahoo.com/this-california-law-is-helping-men-213035804.html

The Unruh-related legal activities of Rava, Crouch, NCFM and its members are often closely tied together. Crouch sometimes writes amici curiae briefs as president of an organization for cases relating to the law, and has been a plaintiff in several Unruh Act cases, some of which have been represented by Rava. NCFM has filed lawsuits under the Unruh Act, though not under Crouch’s leadership. Rava has also been a plaintiff in several discrimination lawsuits, including a case against a string of downtown San Diego clubs for “ladies night” discounts, for which Rava and another plaintiff, Steven Surrey, settled for $125,000, and a Club Med “Ladies Fly Free” travel promotion, for which the settlement cost a total of $400,000 in attorney and court fees for the company. Candelore — who has been a member of NCFM for four years — has been the plaintiff in 10 civil cases since 2011, not including his case against Chic CEO. In nine of those 10 cases, he was represented by Rava. In eight of those, Crouch joined him as a plaintiff. In seven of those cases, Allison was a plaintiff. In sum, these men are often discriminated against together.

“I have been a plaintiff in a number of discrimination lawsuits because I have been discriminated against a number of times,” Candelore told Yahoo News in an email. “I am hoping for a day when everyone will be treated equally, discrimination will end, and I don’t have to file another discrimination lawsuit.”

Rava made his mark on the law in 2007, when he argued the landmark California Supreme Court case Angelucci v. Century Supper Club. The decision revolved around the complaint of four men who said they were charged higher admission prices than women in a Los Angeles nightclub, and determined that patrons didn’t have to first confront a business that discriminated against them or assert their right to equal treatment in order to have legal standing under the Unruh Act.

The decision broadened protections for underrepresented communities that are often discriminated against in business interactions. Rava’s cases have mostly been centered on situations where women are favored over men, whether on a business’s promotional materials, in its facilities or through its staff’s interactions with customers. Rava told Yahoo News that he doesn’t see the value in women-focused events, even if they have no discriminatory intent. He calls the desire to hold them “strange and sad.”

When feminists won't negotiate in good faith, war is the final option.

War in the courtroom.

And we're whupping their asses there.

Let there be many hurt feelz.

 

[badbabysitter]

Interesting that you didnt quote this part

According to George Stephan, a Los Angeles-based lawyer who specializes in discrimination law and has faced off against Rava in past cases, many lawsuits under the Unruh Act are used to attack the same people the law was created to protect.

“Sadly, most of the cases are abusing the law,” Stephan told Yahoo News. “You have people that are kind of professional plaintiffs who sue people for a living, and go looking for lawsuits. That’s given the law a bad name.”

Rava denies this characterization of his work, and says people who disagree with his legal methods are “old-fashioned sexists” who “probably still think that a young woman's best chance for a worthy life is to catch a good man by acing her home economics class and by knowing how to make a tasty bowl of queso from Velveeta.” He has also used this phrasing in several legal complaints.

or this

Akhunova is part of Women VC, a nonprofit that supports promising female professionals. After learning about Burns’ case, the group launched a petition calling for a solution to stop women-focused businesses from being unfairly attacked under the law. Akhunova is working with lawyers to draft legally acceptable language for independent businesses to use on invitations and websites, as a way to avoid similar lawsuits. Women VC has also contacted California’s attorney general about modifying the Unruh Act itself and hopes to at least discourage NCFM affiliates from filing lawsuits in the process.

“They are scared — that is a good thing,” she said, referring to the media attention the group's petition has drawn. “So maybe they will become less active.”

In a recent post to the NCFM website, Crouch described the online petition as “another irrational, emotion-driven, divide-and-conquer giant step backwards.”

One thing that’s sure: This particular legal tactic from the men’s rights movement can’t be expanded nationwide. Stephan says that few states make it as easy as California does to file discrimination suits for everyday interactions with businesses. Regardless, Akhunova says lawyers with Women VC are going over the language of other state discrimination laws, just in case.



yup... great victory LT... nothing says standing up for equality like frivolous lawsuits designed to prevent women from getting a leg up in fields they're discriminated against in

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Interesting that you didnt quote this part

According to George Stephan, a Los Angeles-based lawyer who specializes in discrimination law and has faced off against Rava in past cases, many lawsuits under the Unruh Act are used to attack the same people the law was created to protect.

“Sadly, most of the cases are abusing the law,” Stephan told Yahoo News. “You have people that are kind of professional plaintiffs who sue people for a living, and go looking for lawsuits. That’s given the law a bad name.”

Rava denies this characterization of his work, and says people who disagree with his legal methods are “old-fashioned sexists” who “probably still think that a young woman's best chance for a worthy life is to catch a good man by acing her home economics class and by knowing how to make a tasty bowl of queso from Velveeta.” He has also used this phrasing in several legal complaints.

or this

Akhunova is part of Women VC, a nonprofit that supports promising female professionals. After learning about Burns’ case, the group launched a petition calling for a solution to stop women-focused businesses from being unfairly attacked under the law. Akhunova is working with lawyers to draft legally acceptable language for independent businesses to use on invitations and websites, as a way to avoid similar lawsuits. Women VC has also contacted California’s attorney general about modifying the Unruh Act itself and hopes to at least discourage NCFM affiliates from filing lawsuits in the process.

“They are scared — that is a good thing,” she said, referring to the media attention the group's petition has drawn. “So maybe they will become less active.”

In a recent post to the NCFM website, Crouch described the online petition as “another irrational, emotion-driven, divide-and-conquer giant step backwards.”

One thing that’s sure: This particular legal tactic from the men’s rights movement can’t be expanded nationwide. Stephan says that few states make it as easy as California does to file discrimination suits for everyday interactions with businesses. Regardless, Akhunova says lawyers with Women VC are going over the language of other state discrimination laws, just in case.



yup... great victory LT... nothing says standing up for equality like frivolous lawsuits designed to prevent women from getting a leg up in fields they're discriminated against in

What part of "excluding men from events is called sexism" do you not understand?

Apparently the courts have it figured out.

The Unruh law forbids the exclusion of women from events, and it forbids the exclusion of men. What problem do you have with that? It's called equality.

What your feelz are hurt about is that you can't get preferential treatment. Oh boo fucking hoo.

 

[badbabysitter]

the same law would also allow rapists to attend rape survivor meetings

let me guess, you also have no problem with that

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

the same law would also allow rapists to attend rape survivor meetings

let me guess, you also have no problem with that

If that EVER happens

I mean, outside of your world of paranoid delusions

then please let us know.

Meanwhile please explain to us how creating venues and events that EXCLUDE people based on gender is not gender discrimination.

 

[badbabysitter]

If that EVER happens

I mean, outside of your world of paranoid delusions

then please let us know.

Meanwhile please explain to us how creating venues and events that EXCLUDE people based on gender is not gender discrimination.

so you'd be fine with a testicular cancer group having the westboro baptist church attend all meetings

 

[badbabysitter]

feminist turned away from MRA conference

in her own words

i put on my nice heels, a dress, and did my hair and makeup. the lyft was called and i arrived promptly at 3. my breath tight, i introduced myself to the police and to security. inside was a small table, two chairs, a man and a woman. i noticed a small vaporizer on the desk. we used the same tank.

i introduced myself by first name and last name, not knowing if Esmay had put my name down. last i heard i was not allowed on the premises even with a ticket and a video declaring me welcome. no matter who i was reporting for, but it doesn't hurt to ask. if anything else i wanted to make myself available to the MRA. im still here.

a very large, gruff man appeared and quickly asked me to leave. his bass carried. he looked like Esmay. i asked why i should leave, was cut off, and he repeated himself in a louder voice still. i thanked everyone for their time and exited the building. i took one single photo as proof i was there, and quietly left. the cops followed me out and seemed curiously bemused by my presence. i wondered who they expected.


so the MRA said even with a ticket, she would be excluded


ah.. another great MRA victory

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

so you'd be fine with a testicular cancer group having the westboro baptist church attend all meetings

Freedom of speech.

I also support men's only clubs being forced to admit women. I'm confused as to why the Unruh Act doesn't nix that shit.

I wish the Unruh Act would exist in Denver so women could sue the organizers of that Women in Comics panel that had no fucking women. Oh yeah, I posted about that a while back on here, too.

So, you gonna even try to accuse me of being inconsistent about this?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

in her own words

i put on my nice heels, a dress, and did my hair and makeup. the lyft was called and i arrived promptly at 3. my breath tight, i introduced myself to the police and to security. inside was a small table, two chairs, a man and a woman. i noticed a small vaporizer on the desk. we used the same tank.

i introduced myself by first name and last name, not knowing if Esmay had put my name down. last i heard i was not allowed on the premises even with a ticket and a video declaring me welcome. no matter who i was reporting for, but it doesn't hurt to ask. if anything else i wanted to make myself available to the MRA. im still here.

a very large, gruff man appeared and quickly asked me to leave. his bass carried. he looked like Esmay. i asked why i should leave, was cut off, and he repeated himself in a louder voice still. i thanked everyone for their time and exited the building. i took one single photo as proof i was there, and quietly left. the cops followed me out and seemed curiously bemused by my presence. i wondered who they expected.


so the MRA said even with a ticket, she would be excluded


ah.. another great MRA victory

They didn't exclude women, they excluded an ideology.

However, it's silly to exclude feminists

AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE OPENLY CONDEMNED A VOICE FOR MEN BOTH ON LITEROTICA AND ON MY TUMBLR BLOGS

Meanwhile you can't even bring yourself to condemn a feminist who calls for CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR MEN.