Bruce Jenner debuts as a female on cover of Vanity Fair
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He's a has-been athlete (from the 70's, I think). Why should anyone care what he does or thinks? The whole family is a train wreck. Hardly the sort of person to advance any group's cause.
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it is interesting to note
when Jenner had an interview with D Sawyer just a month or so ago and openly stated
he was a REPOH and CONSERVATIVE he was killed in social media
NOW?
Liberals Worship Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner as Transgender “Goddess”
Posted on June 2, 2015 by Paul Joseph Watson
Many liberals reacted to the Vanity Fair cover featuring Bruce Jenner’s transition into Caitlyn Jenner by proclaiming Jenner to be a Goddess and ordering everyone to bow down and worship her.
That’s not an exaggeration either, in fact one trans tweeter was so enraptured by the whole spectacle that he remarked about how, “Jenner could fucking stab me right now and leave me for dead and I’d die fucking overjoyed we are not WORTHY OF THIS GODDESS.”
Others hailed Jenner as a “literal Goddess,” while one vowed to “pray to Goddess Caitlyn” for the soul of Drake Bell, an actor who was savaged for tweeting that he would still call Jenner “Bruce”.
Guardian writer Paris Lees also ordered everyone to “bow down bitches” and genuflect in the presence of Jenner’s angelic image.
As Brendan O’Neill writes, “There is a palpable religiosity to the wild hailing of Bruce/Caitlyn as a modern-day saint, a Virgin Mary with testicles. Within four hours, more than a million people were following Bruce/Caitlyn’s new Twitter account, hanging on her words like the expectant horde waiting for Moses at the foot of Mount Sinai. Her every utterance, all banal celeb-speak, was retweeted tens of thousands of times. Celebs and commentators greeted her as a kind of messiah.”
Those who dared blaspheme the new “Goddess” were the victim of swiftly organized witch hunts, with Twitter users targeting anyone who still had the temerity to address Jenner by her former name.
“Just as those who denied the divinity of Christ were once expected to recant their heresy, so those who deny the gender of Caitlyn Jenner are hounded by bots into apologising for their moral error,” writes O’Neill. “The American gay-rights group GLAAD is scouring the mainstream media for any use of the word ‘he’ in relation to Caitlyn, like a modern incarnation of the Vatican’s Index Librorum Prohibitorum, which monitored the public sphere for any less-than-gushing commentary on God. It has issued speech-policing guidelines for the media. ‘DON’T refer to her by her former name… DO avoid using male pronouns and Caitlyn’s prior name, even when referring to events in her past.’”
Meanwhile, although most liberals are celebrating Jenner’s transition, CNN commentator Marc Lamont Hill isn’t happy, claiming that the huge publicity generated by the story reinforces “tradition cis/and European standards of beauty.”
In other words, because Jenner is white, financially comfortable and has adhered to traditional standards of beauty in transitioning to a woman, this somehow negates the “bravery” she has been praised for in coming out as transgender.
Presumably, Hill would only be satisfied if Jenner was non-white, fat and ugly – an ideology embraced by the fat pride movement, which asserts that men being attracted to fit, pretty women is a grand conspiracy perpetrated by the patriarchal-controlled cosmetics industry.
“If we only celebrate and welcome Caitlyn Jenner bc she conforms to tradition cis/and European standards of beauty, we are making a mistake,” tweeted Hill, adding, “Between the Vanity Fair spread and “she’s so pretty” convos, we’ve smuggled in the same old cis/Eurocentric narratives about womanhood.”
This again exemplifies how leftists will try to inject feminism, class warfare and race into any issue, even one being almost universally hailed by the left as a huge leap forward for “progressive” attitudes in society.
Perhaps some of the confusion on the left about how to react to Jenner is also borne out of the fact that the former Olympics gold medal winner identifies as a Republican and a Christian.
Meanwhile, President Obama was blasted for tweeting about the story, with many conservatives asserting that he should be focusing on real issues like fighting ISIS or China’s military-build-up.
Fox News host Neil Cavuto summed up the feelings of many, commenting that the whole situation reminded him of, “Rome, final days.”
when Jenner had an interview with D Sawyer just a month or so ago and openly stated
he was a REPOH and CONSERVATIVE he was killed in social media
NOW?
Liberals Worship Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner as Transgender “Goddess”
Posted on June 2, 2015 by Paul Joseph Watson
Many liberals reacted to the Vanity Fair cover featuring Bruce Jenner’s transition into Caitlyn Jenner by proclaiming Jenner to be a Goddess and ordering everyone to bow down and worship her.
That’s not an exaggeration either, in fact one trans tweeter was so enraptured by the whole spectacle that he remarked about how, “Jenner could fucking stab me right now and leave me for dead and I’d die fucking overjoyed we are not WORTHY OF THIS GODDESS.”
Others hailed Jenner as a “literal Goddess,” while one vowed to “pray to Goddess Caitlyn” for the soul of Drake Bell, an actor who was savaged for tweeting that he would still call Jenner “Bruce”.
Guardian writer Paris Lees also ordered everyone to “bow down bitches” and genuflect in the presence of Jenner’s angelic image.
As Brendan O’Neill writes, “There is a palpable religiosity to the wild hailing of Bruce/Caitlyn as a modern-day saint, a Virgin Mary with testicles. Within four hours, more than a million people were following Bruce/Caitlyn’s new Twitter account, hanging on her words like the expectant horde waiting for Moses at the foot of Mount Sinai. Her every utterance, all banal celeb-speak, was retweeted tens of thousands of times. Celebs and commentators greeted her as a kind of messiah.”
Those who dared blaspheme the new “Goddess” were the victim of swiftly organized witch hunts, with Twitter users targeting anyone who still had the temerity to address Jenner by her former name.
“Just as those who denied the divinity of Christ were once expected to recant their heresy, so those who deny the gender of Caitlyn Jenner are hounded by bots into apologising for their moral error,” writes O’Neill. “The American gay-rights group GLAAD is scouring the mainstream media for any use of the word ‘he’ in relation to Caitlyn, like a modern incarnation of the Vatican’s Index Librorum Prohibitorum, which monitored the public sphere for any less-than-gushing commentary on God. It has issued speech-policing guidelines for the media. ‘DON’T refer to her by her former name… DO avoid using male pronouns and Caitlyn’s prior name, even when referring to events in her past.’”
Meanwhile, although most liberals are celebrating Jenner’s transition, CNN commentator Marc Lamont Hill isn’t happy, claiming that the huge publicity generated by the story reinforces “tradition cis/and European standards of beauty.”
In other words, because Jenner is white, financially comfortable and has adhered to traditional standards of beauty in transitioning to a woman, this somehow negates the “bravery” she has been praised for in coming out as transgender.
Presumably, Hill would only be satisfied if Jenner was non-white, fat and ugly – an ideology embraced by the fat pride movement, which asserts that men being attracted to fit, pretty women is a grand conspiracy perpetrated by the patriarchal-controlled cosmetics industry.
“If we only celebrate and welcome Caitlyn Jenner bc she conforms to tradition cis/and European standards of beauty, we are making a mistake,” tweeted Hill, adding, “Between the Vanity Fair spread and “she’s so pretty” convos, we’ve smuggled in the same old cis/Eurocentric narratives about womanhood.”
This again exemplifies how leftists will try to inject feminism, class warfare and race into any issue, even one being almost universally hailed by the left as a huge leap forward for “progressive” attitudes in society.
Perhaps some of the confusion on the left about how to react to Jenner is also borne out of the fact that the former Olympics gold medal winner identifies as a Republican and a Christian.
Meanwhile, President Obama was blasted for tweeting about the story, with many conservatives asserting that he should be focusing on real issues like fighting ISIS or China’s military-build-up.
Fox News host Neil Cavuto summed up the feelings of many, commenting that the whole situation reminded him of, “Rome, final days.”
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ESPN To Honor Bruce Jenner With Arthur Ashe Award For Courage At This Year’s ESPY Awards…
caitlyn--d
How is that an achievement?
Via Conservative Byte:
In July, Jenner will be honored with another award, this time for a much different “achievement.” On Monday, Time reported that at ESPN’s ESPY Awards, the former world’s greatest male athlete will receive the acclaimed Arthur Ashe Award for coming out as a transgender.
In an interview with Diane Sawyer back in April, Jenner stated that he was a woman trapped in a man’s body and had struggled with this conundrum since childhood.
Jenner explained in an interview with Vanity Fair that his cover photo shoot with legendary photo-journalist Annie Leibovitz “was a good day. This shoot was about my life and who I am as a person. It’s not about the fanfare, it’s not about people cheering in the stadium, it’s not about going down the street and everybody giving you ‘that a boy, Bruce,’ pat on the back, O.K. This is about your life.”
caitlyn--d
How is that an achievement?
Via Conservative Byte:
In July, Jenner will be honored with another award, this time for a much different “achievement.” On Monday, Time reported that at ESPN’s ESPY Awards, the former world’s greatest male athlete will receive the acclaimed Arthur Ashe Award for coming out as a transgender.
In an interview with Diane Sawyer back in April, Jenner stated that he was a woman trapped in a man’s body and had struggled with this conundrum since childhood.
Jenner explained in an interview with Vanity Fair that his cover photo shoot with legendary photo-journalist Annie Leibovitz “was a good day. This shoot was about my life and who I am as a person. It’s not about the fanfare, it’s not about people cheering in the stadium, it’s not about going down the street and everybody giving you ‘that a boy, Bruce,’ pat on the back, O.K. This is about your life.”
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EDITOR OF REDSTATE
If Your ‘Authentic Self’ Requires Plastic Surgery and Hormone Therapy, You Need Help, Not Affirmation.
By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | June 2nd, 2015 at 12:05 AM | 60
I hope a lot of people are praying for Bruce Jenner. It seems most of Hollywood and the White House are applauding him decided that he is now a she.
Bruce Jenner certainly has issues, but society itself has gotten mentally sick when it confuses compassion with celebration.
Look, I realize this is going to piss off those of you who already live in a perpetual state of pissed-offedness, but if an alcoholic told you that his authentic self was to drink, you would not encourage that. If a person told you his authentic self was to be attracted to small boys, you would not encourage that. If a person told you that his authentic self was to mutilate his body, you would not encourage that.
When a sixty-five year old former Olympian tells you that he has decided after all these years that he is a she and his new name is going to be one fashionable among 17 year old girls and his own son’s girlfriend, you’re first reaction should not be to congratulate the man on finally finding his “authentic self”, but steering him to therapy.
This is nuts and oh by the way Bruce Jenner still has his. An authentic self does not seek surgery and hormone therapy.
He is not a she. It is not bigotted to point that out. It is the reality. We need to show Bruce Jenner compassion for his mental issues, not celebrate those issues. But we live in a society where up is down, bad is good, and normal is so passé.
Vanity Fair does not care about Bruce Jenner. They care about selling magazines. ABC News does not care about Bruce Jenner. They care about ratings. And most of those applauding Bruce Jenner right now care about an agenda more than a person.
But here is a man who has serious issues. He needs help and he needs prayer. He no more needs affirmation for what he is doing to himself than an alcoholic needs another drink. But that is what our society is going to do because our society has gotten drunk off its own narcissism — a narcissism now trying to keep up with Kardashians in new and exciting ways.
If Your ‘Authentic Self’ Requires Plastic Surgery and Hormone Therapy, You Need Help, Not Affirmation.
By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | June 2nd, 2015 at 12:05 AM | 60
I hope a lot of people are praying for Bruce Jenner. It seems most of Hollywood and the White House are applauding him decided that he is now a she.
Bruce Jenner certainly has issues, but society itself has gotten mentally sick when it confuses compassion with celebration.
Look, I realize this is going to piss off those of you who already live in a perpetual state of pissed-offedness, but if an alcoholic told you that his authentic self was to drink, you would not encourage that. If a person told you his authentic self was to be attracted to small boys, you would not encourage that. If a person told you that his authentic self was to mutilate his body, you would not encourage that.
When a sixty-five year old former Olympian tells you that he has decided after all these years that he is a she and his new name is going to be one fashionable among 17 year old girls and his own son’s girlfriend, you’re first reaction should not be to congratulate the man on finally finding his “authentic self”, but steering him to therapy.
This is nuts and oh by the way Bruce Jenner still has his. An authentic self does not seek surgery and hormone therapy.
He is not a she. It is not bigotted to point that out. It is the reality. We need to show Bruce Jenner compassion for his mental issues, not celebrate those issues. But we live in a society where up is down, bad is good, and normal is so passé.
Vanity Fair does not care about Bruce Jenner. They care about selling magazines. ABC News does not care about Bruce Jenner. They care about ratings. And most of those applauding Bruce Jenner right now care about an agenda more than a person.
But here is a man who has serious issues. He needs help and he needs prayer. He no more needs affirmation for what he is doing to himself than an alcoholic needs another drink. But that is what our society is going to do because our society has gotten drunk off its own narcissism — a narcissism now trying to keep up with Kardashians in new and exciting ways.
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Has your OCD fixated on Jenner for a few days? What's HRC been up to?
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Shouldn't this thread be on the GLBT Chatter Forum?
I have always wondered why the GLB took the T under their wing. I'd be pissed, T has nothing to do with the rest. GLB people are typically happy with who they are, inside and out. T thinks the packaging has something to do with internal happiness. Of course most people with healthy self esteem knows that this simply isn't the case. That's only way to grow old gracefully instead of becoming a plastic surgery addled lunatic like a Real Housewife of Beverly Hills.
It is telling that Jenner didn't simply transition into the female form of himself aka a regular 65 year old woman. Instead he got a shit load of plastic surgery to try to look 25 years younger and more beautiful. And obviously they photoshopped the hell out of his skin to make him seem much younger. I guess he didn't get the memo that real women have been circulating within the last 20 years: the beauty ideals put out by magazines, tv etc are complete bullshit; none of us should be trying to emulated them. (Funny how feminists celebrate when men emulate media-drive female beauty standards, but hate it when women do it.)
He will be committing suicide within 5 years, that is my prediction.
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I think a lot of people have trouble understanding transgender issues because they try to see themselves as trans, but come at it from the wrong direction. i.e. a cis woman tries to understand transness by going, “what if I felt like/wanted to be a man” when she should be approaching it as “what if I, a woman, was so easily mistaken for a man that I had to pretend to be one”,
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You are making the assumption that anyone who is critical of this does so because they don't understand. Most critical people do understand, but believe that what you are describing is a mental disorder which should not be celebrated and instead should be treated.
How is transgenderism any different than body integrity identity disorder? If I believe I will be more sexually fulfilled if I only I can have my legs amputated, and that deep down inside I am an amputee but were mistakenly born with legs, should a surgeon remove my limbs so that I can be who I really am?
Edit to give a relevant link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies#__federated=1
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I'm not making any assumptions of critics. In fact on the general whole, I'm leery of people who want to transition fully because of all the statistics out there that it doesn't really fix or help the core issues. It's not true for everyone but I just don't support a trendy change in gender like getting a tattoo. My comments were very directly geared towards those who don't understand transgenderism, not attacking people who are critical of the choice. There's a difference between "I don't understand" and "I understand but do not believe this is helpful".
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Those people are not on this thread, so surely you can understand why I find your post puzzling.
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Who knows, back in the day homosexuality was a mental illness and in the DSM. The Young Turks of the APA sorted it out. But if you dig into this you'll find that you are talking apples to oranges. Jenner's journey has little to do with sexual arousal/fulfillment.
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That's understandable, especially since I wasn't talking to you to start out with.
It's good to know that you have a complete monopoly and control over the opinions expressed or yet to be expressed in this thread or on this topic.
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That's understandable, especially since I wasn't talking to you to start out with.
Why are you being sarcastic and nasty when I have been polite to you and all others on this thread? Well I know why... your behavior is typical.
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I disagree. Transgenderism is body dysmorphia which needs to be treated by a mental health professional.
Homosexuality has nothing to do with transgenderism as most educate people will tell you.
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I like you and won't waste our time trying to convince you, but I would encourage you to read up more before you profess.
I know. You missed my point.
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He's just so beautiful. I wish I could live that life.
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I have read up and I disagree. Why can't you accept that I disagree from a point of rational intelligence, even if you yourself disagree with the outcome of my rationality? XX does not equal XY and I believe that counts. Perhaps you don't care about chromosomes which is your prerogative. But to tell me to read more rather than to address my coherent thoughts is very lazy. The laziness seems to be intentional. I am not saying "I am right" but instead say "I disagree". Aren't I allowed to do that and still be treated with respect? How does my saying "I disagree" equate to my professing something?
What is truly disturbing about what is happening now, something you are doing, is that dissent is being squelched. Talk to me about why chromosomes don't matter instead of saying "you need to read more, stop professing." Why should I review the evidence differently?
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Not being nasty. There was no nastiness in there. You started talking to me like you're the only one in the thread, which actually is rude. I can see you're needlessly aggressive about this topic and that behavior is... typical.
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