Bruce Jenner debuts as a female on cover of Vanity Fair

That's creepy as hell. I feel very sorry for Jenner. Sad.

Though by her account she's happier now than she was before.

Are you sad about the fact she is happier now?
 
So do you send a Mother's day card on fathers day or s father's day card on mothers day

Or what

Im

Confused
 
Though by her account she's happier now than she was before.

Are you sad about the fact she is happier now?

No, but I find the entire situation very sad, in total, and also find it hard to believe Bruce is truly happy now. In my opinion he is one fucked up individual, no matter how you slice it. May not be his fault he's fucked up, but it is what it is.
 
I came across a few transgender persons.
Their transition was more about trying to achieve a coherent identity and to rid themselves of depression (instead of merely acting the way society expects them to) - more than about the physical aspect.

I have personally interacted with 6-7 in my life (I live in NYC) and each one obviously needed mental help. They were all obviously very depressed and very troubled so the transitioning didn't help. And that isn't even counting the dozens I personally witnessed having anonymous bareback anal sex for pay on the streets of the meatpacking district back in the 90s. I am only speaking of the ones attempting to live in regular society.
 
I really like it when rich people's wealth disfigures them. Poverty's been doing it to fuckers for centuries. That entire clan can eat a bag of dicks.
 
I really like it when rich people's wealth disfigures them. Poverty's been doing it to fuckers for centuries. That entire clan can eat a bag of dicks.

Indeed. Kim Kardashian just announced she is pregnant again, but "Caitlin" stole her thunder with this VF cover. The entire clan has begun feasting upon each other.
 
Indeed. Kim Kardashian just announced she is pregnant again, but "Caitlin" stole her thunder with this VF cover. The entire clan has begun feasting upon each other.

And no better place of Kanye West one of the biggest d-bags to walk the Earth, I'd give anything to see someone just haul off and bunch him in the mouth the next time he acts up at the Grammy's.

And how the hell does that talent-less fuck have so many of them? Did Kim buy them for him?
 
Take millions of dollars to spend on surgeries, hormones, personal trainers, dietitians, and coaches to help you look and act feminine, add one of the best photographers in the world, and an army of photoshoppers, and you too can look good in a picture. :rolleyes:
 
...What the fuck would anyone want to transition into being an old, post-menopausal woman?

If you are going to do something so ridiculous, at least do it when you are 20 and have a shot at looking good. No one wants a 65 year old woman (unless she is already coupled up in which case she has aged along with her partner), so why become one? Jenner has gone straight into sexual irrelevancy.

I wonder what the history books will say about our society, one which celebrates self castration (whether via hormones or surgery). They will think we are deranged.

I've seen numerous 65 year old women who managed to turn my head.

Castrati were the rage in Europe from the mid-1500s until the late 1700s, and persisted until early in the 20th century. And historical records of castrated male singers go back hundreds of years before that. The tradition of the castrato is celebrated even today, even though they were castrated as prepubescent boys simply to make them sing a certain way. I don't expect history will judge us too harshly for allowing a grown man to choose to do the same.
 
CNN's Marc Lamont Hill, the EXPERT on RACISM, told us last might we are

RACIST and CISSEXIST (wtf does that mean?) if we say Jenner is pretty:rolleyes:
 
All that time and money only to look like a post-wall surgery-addled Janice Dickinson but with giant man hands.

http://cdn.evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Janice-Dickinson-2-500x583.jpg

What the fuck would anyone want to transition into being an old, post-menopausal woman?

If you are going to do something so ridiculous, at least do it when you are 20 and have a shot at looking good. No one wants a 65 year old woman (unless she is already coupled up in which case she has aged along with her partner), so why become one? Jenner has gone straight into sexual irrelevancy.

I wonder what the history books will say about our society, one which celebrates self castration (whether via hormones or surgery). They will think we are deranged.

I feel you, I do.

Why become one what?

A woman? Because he wants to be one? Because he feels like a woman? Because he identifies as a woman?

Why wait? Who knows? Shame? Ridicule?

Lol, you know all this already. Don't play. You were a man once, weren't you? LOL
 
I've seen numerous 65 year old women who managed to turn my head.

Castrati were the rage in Europe from the mid-1500s until the late 1700s, and persisted until early in the 20th century. And historical records of castrated male singers go back hundreds of years before that. The tradition of the castrato is celebrated even today, even though they were castrated as prepubescent boys simply to make them sing a certain way. I don't expect history will judge us too harshly for allowing a grown man to choose to do the same.

Jenner is no more female than John Wayne was Green Beret. You cant get THERE from HERE. The idea that you can do it is a devout wish of the girls. But its, in my opinion, a form of factitious disorder.
 
I've seen numerous 65 year old women who managed to turn my head.

Castrati were the rage in Europe from the mid-1500s until the late 1700s, and persisted until early in the 20th century. And historical records of castrated male singers go back hundreds of years before that. The tradition of the castrato is celebrated even today, even though they were castrated as prepubescent boys simply to make them sing a certain way. I don't expect history will judge us too harshly for allowing a grown man to choose to do the same.

I know of course that this has happened before, but I find it hard to believe that people to this day celebrate enforced castration of children for profit (i.e. a soprano singing voice). How are you able to celebrate that? At least Bruce chose this for himself.
 
I feel you, I do.

Why become one what?

A woman? Because he wants to be one? Because he feels like a woman? Because he identifies as a woman?

Why wait? Who knows? Shame? Ridicule?

Lol, you know all this already. Don't play. You were a man once, weren't you? LOL

He isn't a woman.

You can insult me all you want with your pathetic joke, but Jenner still isn't a woman.
 
He isn't a woman.

You can insult me all you want with your pathetic joke, but Jenner still isn't a woman.

You moron. Of course he isn't a woman! We all know that! He is a man who wants to be a woman. Who identifies as a woman.

Just like you did 25 years ago when you turned 30.

Brr. It's cold in here...
 
All that time and money only to look like a post-wall surgery-addled Janice Dickinson but with giant man hands.

http://cdn.evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Janice-Dickinson-2-500x583.jpg

What the fuck would anyone want to transition into being an old, post-menopausal woman?

If you are going to do something so ridiculous, at least do it when you are 20 and have a shot at looking good. No one wants a 65 year old woman (unless she is already coupled up in which case she has aged along with her partner), so why become one? Jenner has gone straight into sexual irrelevancy.

I wonder what the history books will say about our society, one which celebrates self castration (whether via hormones or surgery). They will think we are deranged.

I thought that picture of JD was a picture of Steve Tyler at first. Must be the lips.
 
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