UNEXPECTEDLY! Sticker Shock for Some Obamacare Customers

[Busybody]

UNEXPECTEDLY! Sticker Shock for Some Obamacare Customers. “So the proposed 2016 Obamacare rates have been filed in many states, and in many states, the numbers are eye-popping. Market leaders are requesting double-digit increases in a lot of places. Some of the biggest are really double-digit: 51 percent in New Mexico, 36 percent in Tennessee, 30 percent in Maryland, 25 percent in Oregon. The reason? They say that with a full year of claims data under their belt for the first time since Obamacare went into effect, they’re finding the insurance pool was considerably older and sicker than expected.”

Gee, that’s bad luck.

 

[Busybody]

Remember when #obamacare was going to cut EVERYONE'S premiums?? That was really cool

 

[miles]

If Obamacare only helps one person it will be worth it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

This is what happens when you let companies dictate HC policy to legislators.....it's the FREE MARKET!! LOL

 

[dan_c00000]

This is what happens when you let companies dictate HC policy to legislators.....it's the FREE MARKET!! LOL

It's also what happens when you pay $0 for health insurance and then have to take "personal responsibility" and pay for something yourself (with government subsidies).

Yeah all those illegals that busy body was worried about overcrowding ER rooms and not paying for shit turned out to be old white fucks.

And yeah healthcare companies are awful and have no business being in business.

 

[Busybody]

UNEXPECTEDLY! Sticker Shock for Some Obamacare Customers. “So the proposed 2016 Obamacare rates have been filed in many states, and in many states, the numbers are eye-popping. Market leaders are requesting double-digit increases in a lot of places. Some of the biggest are really double-digit: 51 percent in New Mexico, 36 percent in Tennessee, 30 percent in Maryland, 25 percent in Oregon. The reason? They say that with a full year of claims data under their belt for the first time since Obamacare went into effect, they’re finding the insurance pool was considerably older and sicker than expected.”

Gee, that’s bad luck.

as we said

 

[phrodeau]

UNEXPECTEDLY! Sticker Shock for Some Obamacare Customers. “So the proposed 2016 Obamacare rates have been filed in many states, and in many states, the numbers are eye-popping. Market leaders are requesting double-digit increases in a lot of places. Some of the biggest are really double-digit: 51 percent in New Mexico, 36 percent in Tennessee, 30 percent in Maryland, 25 percent in Oregon. The reason? They say that with a full year of claims data under their belt for the first time since Obamacare went into effect, they’re finding the insurance pool was considerably older and sicker than expected.”

Gee, that’s bad luck.

So the old system was even more of a failure than we thought.

 

[DooleyDarter]

But at least all those folks got to keep their insurance and their doctors if they wanted,,,,wait this just in,,,, Ha ha no they can't.

 

[phrodeau]

But at least all those folks got to keep their insurance and their doctors if they wanted,,,,wait this just in,,,, Ha ha no they can't.

Which ones can't? Name them, please.

 

[DooleyDarter]

Which ones can't? Name them, please.

Well there was, bob, sue, mary, bill, henry, john, doug, bertha, henrietta, yolanda, jose, frank, mark, tony, harley, bubba, hillary, helen, madhu, don, george, tina, max.....the list goes on and on.

 

[sr71plt]

But at least all those folks got to keep their insurance and their doctors if they wanted,,,,wait this just in,,,, Ha ha no they can't.

Who, for instance? Not me.

 

[DooleyDarter]

Who, for instance? Not me.

Me neither, but I did not sign up for Obamacare.

 

[Busybody]

BUT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE $2,500 PER YEAR!: Brace yourself for Obamacare sticker shock.

Health insurers are proposing to raise Obamacare rates more than in the past — some by more than 70 percent — now that they are finally equipped with all the information they need to price those plans.

Plans wanting to raise rates by at least 10 percent next year posted the proposed increase online Monday, as required by the 2010 healthcare law. Insurers are allowed to raise rates each year, but they must publish significant increases ahead of time.

Insurers have sold plans in the law’s new insurance marketplaces for two years in a row. But the difference in 2016 is that for the first time, they have a full year of claims data from enrollees that tells them how high or low to set the price tag. . . .

While plans and rates vary by state, a look at rate increases published Monday on healthcare.gov shows many hovering around 10 to 30 percent in many states.

But there’s also a sprinkling of even bigger hikes. Blue Cross wants to raise its most expensive “platinum” plan in Alabama by 71 percent next year. Aetna wants to charge 59 percent more for one of its small group plans in Virginia. Time Insurance Co. is proposing a 64 percent hike for an individual plan in Georgia.

Gosh, what happened to that $2500 per year savings we were promised? Same thing that happened to the “if you like your plan/doctor, you can keep it/him.” I think we need trigger warnings for all Obamacare-related news items, since it inevitably causes painful flashbacks of these promises. It’s like intellectual rape over and over again.

 

[Busybody]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGlb1kYVAAI-yup.jpg"Yikes! Lots of people are losing their obamacare subsidies!"-writers that shilled for Obama's ACA

 

[dan_c00000]

Again when you go from paying $0 to paying something (what teahadists call personal responsibility) your costs increase.

And again, as I've proven, the ERs are really filled with white, old republitards.

Of course the fact that the ACA has been even cheaper than expected hasn't crossed busy body's cowardly mind.

 

[Busybody]

non of your links prove what you claim they do

 

[phrodeau]

non of your links prove what you claim they do

And that's the reason your posts have no links at all.

 

[dan_c00000]

non of your links prove what you claim they do

Sure they do. Your mom just isn't around to read them for you. I'll use pictures to make it easier for you.

http://www.motherjones.com/files/blog_aspe_obamacare_premiums.jpg

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2014/04/cbocostsapril.jpg&w=1484

 

[Busybody]

idiot

 

[Busybody]

Woman In New TV Ad Claiming Obamacare Saved Her Life Bought Private Insurance Year Before Obamacare Started…



Via NRO:

A new ad featuring a woman who credits Obamacare with alleviating her fear of falling ill while uninsured omits the fact that she already had coverage before enrolling in the government program.

“For 20 years, I was afraid — afraid of getting sick and having no health insurance,” Julie Adams of Nashville, Tenn., says in the ad. “But when I got cancer, I finally had a health plan I could afford. . . . I’ll always remember how affordable health care saved my life.”

Ms. Adams’s life might have been saved by the health insurance plan she bought before enrolling for Obamacare, though.

“What a relief!” she writes in a Facebook post announcing a trip to the doctor. “I waited forever because I didn’t have health insurance until this year. Thank you Obama.”

That message was published in March of 2013; the Affordable Care Act didn’t provide benefits until 2014. “The liberal political activist in the ad claiming she was uninsured until Obamacare saved her life actually bought a private plan a year before Obamacare started,” says Phil Kerpen of American Commitment, a conservative nonprofit. “And the same media ‘fact checkers’ who viciously attacked cancer patients who spoke out against Obamacare didn’t even bother to question it.”

 

[dan_c00000]

Seeing as how the law was signed and went into effect in 2010 I'd say busy body is grasping at some very racist straws.

In March 2010, the CBO predicted that the law would cost $710 billion during the period from 2015 to 2019, without trying to come up with projections beyond that. After several revisions, the law is now expected to cost $506 billion – 29 percent less -- during those same five years, as shown in the chart.

 

[Busybody]

cause less peeps are signing up

 

[Busybody]

In Vermont, the Reality of Obamacare Dawns Ugly
Luckily, being a liberal means never, ever having to say you're sorry.

Remember the Patient Deflection and Unaffordable Care Act, rammed through Congress by the Obama administration in its heady, early days? The bureaucratic monstrosity overseen by the Internal Revnue Service that was going to provide “health care” for all Americans at an “affordable” price? Yeah, neither does the New York Times:

Just a few years ago, lawmakers in this left-leaning state viewed President Obama’s Affordable Care Act as little more than a pit stop on the road to a far more ambitious goal: single-payer, universal health care for all residents.


Then things unraveled. The online insurance marketplace that Vermont built to enroll people in private coverage under the law had extensive technical failures. The problems soured public and legislative enthusiasm for sweeping health care changes just as Gov. Peter Shumlin needed to build support for his complex single-payer plan. Finally, Mr. Shumlin, a Democrat, shelved the plan in December, citing the high cost to taxpayers. He called the decision “the greatest disappointment of my political life.”

Priceless: “Things unraveled.” All by themselves and just like that — poof! Who could have seen any of this coming?

As the United States Supreme Court prepares to rule in a case that could gut a major element of the Affordable Care Act — federal subsidies for low- and middle-income people — Vermont should have little to worry about. Only states that use the federally run insurance marketplace stand to lose subsidies if the court rules against the Obama administration, and Vermont is among the 14 states that fully run their own.

But even though its residents’ subsidies appear safe for now, Vermont stands as a cautionary tale. Despite an eventual cost of up to $200 million in federal funds, its online marketplace, or exchange, is still not fully functional, while disgust with the system is running deep among residents and lawmakers alike.

Meanwhile, the hopes for a single-payer system, once tantalizingly close, may be lost for years. Under such a system, the government operates one health insurance plan for all residents, covering their medical costs instead of having private insurers do it.

“It’s just been a spectacular crash, really,” said State Representative Chris Pearson, a member of Vermont’s Progressive Party. “We’ve gone from this vision of being the first state to achieve universal health care, to limping along and struggling to comply with the Affordable Care Act.”

And they won’t learn a damn thing from it, either.

 

[Busybody]

Demented Da will scream RACISM and post some BS from the CBO that has no connection to the Oh Pee

 

[dan_c00000]

cause less peeps are signing up

Wrong again busy body. Hey remember when you got challenged to a fight and ran away like a coward?

http://acasignups.net/sites/default/files/aca_chart_140504.jpg