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youngsters need some mum control

Not meant as a sexual pun but we are all so P.C and scared to discipline our children and they do what they want. In the UK the teenagers think they rule the road, hanging around with their trakkies and bling their parents buy them.
All young adults should be made to do some kind of voluntary work if they don't have a job, not only for discipline but to teach them skills, time management and being a constructive member of society.
 
we as a society?

I don't understand the mouse thing ? Maybe i am in your stupid bracket now?
Just thought it was an interesting topic
 
Not meant as a sexual pun but we are all so P.C and scared to discipline our children and they do what they want. In the UK the teenagers think they rule the road, hanging around with their trakkies and bling their parents buy them.
All young adults should be made to do some kind of voluntary work if they don't have a job, not only for discipline but to teach them skills, time management and being a constructive member of society.

'Speak roughly to your little boy
And beat him when he sneezes.
He only does it to annoy,
Because he knows it teases.'
 
Not meant as a sexual pun but we are all so P.C and scared to discipline our children and they do what they want. In the UK the teenagers think they rule the road, hanging around with their trakkies and bling their parents buy them.
All young adults should be made to do some kind of voluntary work if they don't have a job, not only for discipline but to teach them skills, time management and being a constructive member of society.

err...

Forcing voluntary work on someone does them and society no good whatsoever. The voluntary sector (massive already btw) succeeds because people tend to believe in what they're contributing (save for those after social status, but that's not gonna incentivise an unruly youngster either).

The only way to ensure people believe in, and want to contribute to, a society is to ensure society caters for their needs. Sure there would still be some who fall through the cracks, but our world ain't set up for free-thinking (or just lost) teenagers or young adults.
 
err...

Forcing voluntary work on someone does them and society no good whatsoever. The voluntary sector (massive already btw) succeeds because people tend to believe in what they're contributing (save for those after social status, but that's not gonna incentivise an unruly youngster either).

The only way to ensure people believe in, and want to contribute to, a society is to ensure society caters for their needs. Sure there would still be some who fall through the cracks, but our world ain't set up for free-thinking (or just lost) teenagers or young adults.

Absolutely this. Well said. Charities have a hard enough time as it is without also having to be teachers, social workers and probation officers all rolled into one. These young people need actual work, which means job creation, or proper, high quality training. Both of those need funding.

But it's so much easier to blame young people for structural unemployment.
 
haven't read the entire thread, so forgive me if i'm off-topic...

one of my sons is in the fortunate position to be able to accompany his father to his job as a self-employed maintenance/handyman. he's only eleven, but nearly full grown, and sharp as a tack. he is learning skills that will have lifelong practical application: all sorts of home renovation things, plus accounting, savings, taxes, etc.

he's getting 'paid,' and is now responsible for his own discretionary purchases.

i think this is a terrific way for children to learn a trade, when possible. we live in a small town, and i realize that this isn't doable for everyone, but i'm thankful that it works for us. i think the key here is relationships (and small business!). we know of several other self-employed folks who would also welcome an extra pair of helping hands, and in return, share their wisdom and talent.

do i want my son to spend his life as a handyman? no. i want him to go to uni and take over the world. :D but on his way up the ladder, it will help him to have the skills to keep a roof over his head and food on his table, and lend a hand to those in need around him. i think he's off to a good start.
 
haven't read the entire thread, so forgive me if i'm off-topic...

one of my sons is in the fortunate position to be able to accompany his father to his job as a self-employed maintenance/handyman. he's only eleven, but nearly full grown, and sharp as a tack. he is learning skills that will have lifelong practical application: all sorts of home renovation things, plus accounting, savings, taxes, etc.

he's getting 'paid,' and is now responsible for his own discretionary purchases.

i think this is a terrific way for children to learn a trade, when possible. we live in a small town, and i realize that this isn't doable for everyone, but i'm thankful that it works for us. i think the key here is relationships (and small business!). we know of several other self-employed folks who would also welcome an extra pair of helping hands, and in return, share their wisdom and talent.

do i want my son to spend his life as a handyman? no. i want him to go to uni and take over the world. :D but on his way up the ladder, it will help him to have the skills to keep a roof over his head and food on his table, and lend a hand to those in need around him. i think he's off to a good start.
Completely agree: decent apprenticeships, paying only generous pocket money until 16+ where the child is still living with parents, is a wonderful way to teach skills, responsibility, etc. People are clamouring for them in the UK. There are just 19,000 apprenticeships for construction: er need 43,000. Multiply that by so many other industries and there is a massive problem. Companies mostly want the finished article now, but aren't prepared to pay for it.
 
Completely agree: decent apprenticeships, paying only generous pocket money until 16+ where the child is still living with parents, is a wonderful way to teach skills, responsibility, etc. People are clamouring for them in the UK. There are just 19,000 apprenticeships for construction: er need 43,000. Multiply that by so many other industries and there is a massive problem. Companies mostly want the finished article now, but aren't prepared to pay for it.

*sigh* i know.

one of the reasons i like to shop secondhand is because it frees up a little extra cash to support companies making quality products that take time and cost money.

:eek: we currently have homemade orange marmalade in the house and the aroma alone--!! :heart:

kids can't even get a work permit here until they're... fifteen, i think? i'm not sure, i'll have to look that up. i'm certain we're bending the rules by letting him go, but we can get away with a lot, and so we do. i understand the need to keep kids safe, and insurance issues, etc., but we're robbing our young people of the opportunity to learn to work at an early age, and we're paying for it over the long haul.

i'm impressed that you have any apprenticeships at all! i'm not aware of there being anything like that in my town. probably the best way for kids to get their foot in the door around here is to get involved in 4-H or FFA or one of the service clubs. all non-paying, of course.
 
There were no jobs when I was a kid. So I used my noodle to make money...like go to the Bay and collect crabs to sell. I mowed yards for people. I sold holiday cards. My first real job was working in a Papaya orchard on Saturdays. 75 cents an hour. A freeze killed the orchard, and I went to work at a bakery unloading supply trucks, filling barrels with flour and sugar, washing baking pans and sheets, and making donuts. I started about 5 in the morning and finished scrubbing the floors about 8 pm. Then my old man hired me to fetch grease, oil, gasoline, and diesel fuel for his construction company. The pay was one tank of gas for my car per week.
 
I went to Catholic School. To pass the religion course, we had to perform 8 hours of volunteer work a quarter, after school hours. None of us wanted to do it, especially if you were late signing-up for the fun jobs and the only thing left was visiting the nursing homes.

It was one of the best things they ever made us do. Do you know how good it looks on a resume to list volunteer work? Every time I went to a job interview, they always commented on the volunteer work with a huge smile. They eat that shit up!

Also, before I turned 16, my mother forced me to do volunteer work during the summer. Most of my time was spent at animal shelters (school wouldn't count animal shelter work for the required hours, it had to be people based). When I worked for United Way, we did a lot of work in impoverished communities. Painting houses with donated paint, heavy house cleaning for old people, stenciling "don't dump kitchen grease" on the sewer drainage covers.

I believe all this stuff made me a better person, even though my bratty ass hated every minute of it at the time. Valuable life lessons that paid off greatly.

Soup Kitchens
Meals On Wheels
Picking up garbage
 
Around here, the curriculum requires 200 hours of community service/volunteer work to graduate high school.

The kid needed a smack in the head and got it...good on Momma
 
Around here, the curriculum requires 200 hours of community service/volunteer work to graduate high school.

The kid needed a smack in the head and got it...good on Momma

so

you are in the great WHITE north?

RACIST!:mad:
 
so

you are in the great WHITE north?

RACIST!:mad:



I'm really not a fan of black snow..lived in a town once that when the snow melted there was a black gooey mess from what it collected in the air when falling...didn't like that at all
 
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