USA - forever Israel's bitch?

[demos]

What is it about the state of Israel which allows it, despite its troublesome history, to enjoy the uncritical support of USA and hardly a note of condemnation from European politicians?

Founded in an orgy of bloodshed - the murder and ethnic cleansing of the Arab inhabitants - and on the basis of "ownership and entitlement" claimed from mythical tales from 2000 years ago, the state of Israel is an unnatural construct which by virtue of its inherent illegitimacy and hostility will always pose a threat to peace in that region - an area not short of pre-existing tensions.

The following questions are for the right-wing types in USA who welcome the Israeli pm to their shores this week and whose political representatives shower standing ovations upon the homicidal maniac.

Why do you allow your foreign policy to be governed by the demands of the Israeli leadership?

Why do you always veto all motions of censure in the UN security council?

Can't you see that your unquestioning support of Israeli intransigence loses you goodwill around the world and creates antagonism in the middle east and Islamic countries?

When innocent humanitarian volunteers from your country are killed by trigger-happy Israeli soldiers, without the huge moral outrage which would greet such action taken by any other country, why is that ok?

When the Israeli army inflicts indiscriminate mass community retaliation on civilians for the actions of individual acts of resistance to occupation, is that ok?
(It wasn't at Oradour-sur-Glane, it wasn't at My Lai, but I guess those must have been a different kind of massacre.)

Will the US taxpayers ever be asked if they would like to continue to bolster a troublesome ally with billions every year?

Have you forgiven the IDF for murdering US sailors on USS Liberty? Would you allow any other ally to murder your servicemen?

Just asking - because I certainly find US policy on Israel unfathomable. How about you?

(And before the standard zionist default position is adopted, and accusations of anti-Semitism are hurled.... not so. Criticism of Israeli policy and its support by US and European governments does NOT imply anti-Semitism.)

Over to you, dear readers.

 

[domroger]

Lights pipe and waits with interest .

 

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[BotanyBoy]

No I haven't, nor have I forgiven LBJ for allowing the sacrifice of 58,000 American men in vain. That doesn't mean I'm not going to pay my taxes.

Happy as fuck to waste american kids now....anything for moar war in the middle east right vette?

Shit talk is the only reason this fuck^^ needs to blow it all.....whatever it takes to get KBR on the ground.

I understand it completely, they are the only democracy in the region with Western values at its core.

But can't let them handle it...nope, need Murican troops, and most importantly Taco Bell /Wal Mart there on hand fer Freedumb!!

 

[FGB]

Hmm. Let me think.

"And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

 

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[NeverEndingMe]

you are a special kind of mentally fucked, what happened? born as a dumb ass or take stupid pills?

What is it about the state of Israel which allows it, despite its troublesome history, to enjoy the uncritical support of USA and hardly a note of condemnation from European politicians?

Founded in an orgy of bloodshed - the murder and ethnic cleansing of the Arab inhabitants - and on the basis of "ownership and entitlement" claimed from mythical tales from 2000 years ago, the state of Israel is an unnatural construct which by virtue of its inherent illegitimacy and hostility will always pose a threat to peace in that region - an area not short of pre-existing tensions.

The following questions are for the right-wing types in USA who welcome the Israeli pm to their shores this week and whose political representatives shower standing ovations upon the homicidal maniac.

Why do you allow your foreign policy to be governed by the demands of the Israeli leadership?

Why do you always veto all motions of censure in the UN security council?

Can't you see that your unquestioning support of Israeli intransigence loses you goodwill around the world and creates antagonism in the middle east and Islamic countries?

When innocent humanitarian volunteers from your country are killed by trigger-happy Israeli soldiers, without the huge moral outrage which would greet such action taken by any other country, why is that ok?

When the Israeli army inflicts indiscriminate mass community retaliation on civilians for the actions of individual acts of resistance to occupation, is that ok?
(It wasn't at Oradour-sur-Glane, it wasn't at My Lai, but I guess those must have been a different kind of massacre.)

Will the US taxpayers ever be asked if they would like to continue to bolster a troublesome ally with billions every year?

Have you forgiven the IDF for murdering US sailors on USS Liberty? Would you allow any other ally to murder your servicemen?

Just asking - because I certainly find US policy on Israel unfathomable. How about you?

(And before the standard zionist default position is adopted, and accusations of anti-Semitism are hurled.... not so. Criticism of Israeli policy and its support by US and European governments does NOT imply anti-Semitism.)

Over to you, dear readers.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't think you understand my position in the slightest. This is because you project your hallucinations instead of stopping to read what people say.

It's not reading what you say it's because getting much out of you other than childish name calling and C&P's from infowars/brietbart/american thinker is like pulling teeth from a fucking Rhino.

Getting a direct answer on what your position is on the most mundane black and white issue is borderline in-fucking-possible and takes god damn months to get.

That's also pretty rich coming from the guy who just a day or two ago was telling me I voted for Obama...LOL

 

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[BotanyBoy]

You should try asking germane questions instead of those that deflect from the subject at hand.

Sayz the master of answering questions with unrelated other questions

Instead you constantly misstate my position,

You don't have enough of one to correct me 99% of the time....

but you are what you are.

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[phrodeau]

Hmm. Let me think.

"And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

Is any of that going to happen any time soon?

 

[cowslinger64]

I don't think you understand my position in the slightest. This is because you project your hallucinations instead of stopping to read what people say.

I posted your position already..


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[FGB]

Is any of that going to happen any time soon?

When has it not?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I have enough to correct you 100% of the time.

BAAAAHAHAHAH then why the fuck is it like pulling teeth to get you to do it instead of blowing hot air and shit talk?

You still have yet to state why EXACTLY you think it's so important that the US put troops on the ground in the middle east. Other than to show your support for Obamas decision there is a clear and present threat that needs to be dealt with (yet you can't ID it) ....or deny that you want them there.

**incoming 3rd grade poopie butt insults**

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You should try asking germane questions instead of those that deflect from the subject at hand. Instead you constantly misstate my position, but you are what you are.

Mostly that's because you rarely, if ever, state your opinion. A majority of the time you post articles that, when they're shown to be complete bullshit you beg off by claiming that "I just posted the article, I don't necessarily believe it." Then run like your ass is on fire and cower in your safe little echo chamber iggy bunker.

When you are asked 'germane' questions you either ignore them completely, deflect with a personal insult, or never show your face in the thread again. Hell, it's your fucking calling card on the GB.

These are the actions of a coward unable to defend his positions. As you said, you are what you are.

 

[rotsak]

Because most people understand what is really happening there.

It doesn't sound as if you understand it.

Islam itself was founded in an "orgy of bloodshed." It existed for the conquest and subjugation of lands held by Christians and Jews long before Islam existed and for centuries bathed themselves in the blood of innocents.

The first recorded genocide was in the bible and committed by Moses under the orders of god. All three Abramic religions are proselytizing and bloody. The USA regularly evokes god as it murders people, as did the European empires before them.

We don't, ask Obama and Susan Rice as they work to undermine Bibi's election campaign and his leadership in Israel. We are negotiating with the world's biggest state sponsor of terror, Iran, and doing all that we can to allow them to run our foreign policy.

The world biggest state sponsor of terror is the USA. The problem in the west, people don't like to look in the mirror because they aren't comfortable with what they see. The USA and the UK, worked to undermine and overthrow the democratic government in Iran and replaced it with a brutal yes man, the Shah. When the Iranians overthrew the brutal western puppet regime, we are suddenly supposed to see the new regime as terrorists. Well, the new regime might not be nice but whose fault is that? The Shah with help for the USA killed all resistance in Iran and cultivated the clergy. In the end, there was only the clergy left to fight the Shah and his USA backers.

Most of them are brought by Arab countries involved in terrorism or working to deny Israel's right to exist.

When you don't like the truth, lie. You only end up lying to yourself and looking an idiot.

The truth is we dictate to Israel all the time, but we know you aren't interested in the truth; but frankly, most ordinary Americans don't really give a shit what Islamic countries think, especially after 9-11 and the terrorism of Isis/Isil.

Israel appears to dictate to the USA. Israel always disregards the US president because it knows it can because it is never long to another US election and a new president, they can just sit any disagreement out.

First off, how often has that happened to Americans at the hands of Israelis? Humanitarian workers in war zones invite bodily harm to themselves and most Americans understand this.

You don't even care about American citizens murdered by Israel. This is why the USA has lost all influence in the middle east that isn't backed up with bombs and murder.

The obvious solution to this problem is for those civilians in those areas to cease supporting terrorists in their midst and cross border terror attacks launched from their towns and villages. When the enemy operates from within civilian enclaves and people get killed, it is the terrorists who should be held responsible, not those merely defending themselves from those attacks.

Those people in that area are in the world's largest concentration camp. The are regularly victims of a duck shoot and they are supposed to accept it? The Palestinians are the only subjugated people in the world who are expected to guarantee the security of their oppressors.

They are asked with every election what they will tolerate. Maybe the Democrats should run on a platform of discontinuing aid to Israel and see if Americans will underwrite it by voting for them.

True. Americans don't seem to understand why their country is murdering people and supporting murderers in their name.

No I haven't, nor have I forgiven LBJ for allowing the sacrifice of 58,000 American men in vain. That doesn't mean I'm not going to pay my taxes.

That too was a case of the USA not understanding the situation and blaming everything on terrorists while supporting a totally corrupt regime. The British Prime Minister at the time, Harold Wilson, told LBJ that the USA was fighting a colonial war aand they were the imperialists, not an ideological war against communism. The US administration wouldn't listen because it was fixated on a mythical ideological enemy, the communist threat. All sorts of freedom fighters and revolutionaries in the third world called themselves communists and Marxists while they clearly never knew what either was. However, the point was to define themselves against western imperialist colonizers.

I understand it completely, they are the only democracy in the region with Western values at its core.

Israel is a democracy only in the sense that apartheid South Africa was a democracy. South Africa was a democracy for whites and an abomination for blacks. Israel is only a democracy for Jews and an abomination for Arab Israelis. Israel has over fifty laws discriminating against its Arab citizens (not Palestinians it occupies). Israeli courts almost 100% come down on the side of Jews when there is a dispute between Israeli jews and Arabs. Israeli Jews can buy land and homes where they want, Israeli Arabs can't. I could go on and on and on and on.

 

[miles]

demos, your second post is even more full of shit than the first one.

Explain how the US is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism.

How do Jews proseltyze?

How many Americans has Israel "murdered?"

How are Palestinians victims of "duck shoots?"

How is Israel an abomination for its Arab citizens?


Answer the questions using facts, not opinions. I can wait.

 

[MrBates2]

It doesn't sound as if you understand it.

The first recorded genocide was in the bible and committed by Moses under the orders of god. All three Abramic religions are proselytizing and bloody. The USA regularly evokes god as it murders people, as did the European empires before them.

This is New Testament.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

yes, this is what value you union / obaNa people add

I posted your position already..


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[miles]

Look....a shitslinger selfie!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hey Miles, are you gonna watch your beloved Reichsfuehrer's campaign speech on CSPAN today? "Americans must die so that Israel can live"

Your Reichsfuehrer has been predicting Iran nuke capability in "3 to 5 years" ever since 1995...we should make a drinking game out of this!

 

[rotsak]

demos, your second post is even more full of shit than the first one.

Explain how the US is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism.

American terrorists wear US uniforms. It is the USA (following in the footsteps of the British Empire) that jackboots around the world looking after its capitalist interests at the cost of everyone else's. I have yet to see any foreign armies jackbooting around the west. If the USA stayed at home and was attacked, I'd have sympathy but they don't. Thanks to the self interest of propaganda monologues that the American media call news, I don't think the average American realises what terrorism the US military gets up to on behalf of corporate America.

How do Jews proseltyze?

A surprising amount of Russian Jewish immigrants in Israel weren't Jews in the first place but it appears a blind eye has been turned because they are European and not Arab and israel needs to keep its population bigger than the population of the people it occupies.

How many Americans has Israel "murdered?"

Not many but several and several Europeans. Israel just doesn't give a shit about aid workers it murders. They always have an enquiry that exonerates themselves and the USA goes back to licking Israeli arse.

How are Palestinians victims of "duck shoots?"

More than 500 Palestinian children in the last Gaza attack, 400 Palestinian children in the previous Gaza attack. 2,060 children since 2000. That is without the murder of innocent adults.

How is Israel an abomination for its Arab citizens?

Because Israel is an apartheid regime, if you use the same criteria that was used to judge South Africa's treatment of blacks.

Answer the questions using facts, not opinions. I can wait.

I have.

 

[sexnovella]

yes they're

Yes they're

 

[demos]

demos, your second post is even more full of shit than the first one.

Second?

You seem to be more than a little confused, not just intellectually but also in questions of fact.