Obama The Dangerous Appeaser

Oh look vetteman can't deal with the fact that the cold war is over and that there is no actual reason for our continued fiddle fucking about in the middle east.
 
Oh look vetteman can't deal with the fact that the cold war is over and that there is no actual reason for our continued fiddle fucking about in the middle east.

The cold war is over and the hot wars are underway. :eek:
 
Originally Posted by BotanyBoy View Post
Oh look vetteman can't deal with the fact that the cold war is over and that there is no actual reason for our continued fiddle fucking about in the middle east.


This is your mind on drugs.
 
More evidence of Obama's perfidy:


U.S. Helping Adversaries That Set The World On Fire

07:06 PM ET

Foreign Policy: From Iran to Afghanistan to Russia to Cuba and beyond, President Obama helps governments and entities that are America's adversaries. To "end wars," he invites new aggression.

'I've spent the last 4-1/2 years doing everything I can to reduce our reliance on military power," Obama said a year and a half ago in a city once called Leningrad. But when a commander in chief puts our nation's weapons aside, enemies reach for their guns.

The best argument against this John & Yoko foreign policy of "war is over if you want it" is to list the locales where it's fueled war and boosted grave future threats.

Afghanistan: Right after three high-ranking former generals warn the Senate Armed Services Committee that Obama's muddled policies prevent winning in Afghanistan — and in Iraq and Syria — three U.S. contractors are shot dead by a Taliban infiltrator in the Afghan army. So much for the president's boast that "our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."

Meanwhile, the White House absurdly claims the soon-to-be-back-in-power Taliban aren't terrorists.

Iraq: Our troops come home and a barbaric new Islamic State emerges, videotaping its beheadings of innocent Americans. We are pre-emptively losing our proxy "war" to "degrade and ultimately destroy" the Islamic State by making ground forces a nonoption.

Iran: Last week's coup in Yemen — a country Obama touted as a success in fighting terrorism without getting American hands dirty — was backed by Tehran, which cons at the nuclear negotiating table a president who stands before Congress and argues against toughening sanctions against the leading terror client state.

Arab Spring: Obama invited the destabilizing revolutions and civil wars that began in 2010. Our ally Hosni Mubarak in Egypt was ousted, revolt swept through Tunisia, Libya and Yemen, and affected Syria, Bahrain, plus Muslim lands as far away as Algeria and Sudan. Obama's 2009 Cairo speech seeking "a new beginning" in U.S.-Islamic relations was seen, accurately, as a white flag.

Russia: Scrapping missile defense commitments to the Poles and Czechs, pushing a "reset" button and making secret presidential promises of "more flexibility" with Vladimir Putin sparked a revival of Moscow's expansionist aggression unseen since the Cold War.

Cuba: "When what you're doing doesn't work for 50 years, it's time to try something new," Obama told Congress, certain that making nice with the repressive Castro regime was a slam dunk. Now Raul Castro, predictably, demands the return of Guantanamo Bay and a total end to our trade embargo before he'll play ball.

The world is burning because this president fiddled with America's responsibilities as its lone superpower.



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Two more years and he morphs into CARTER II.
 
Originally Posted by BotanyBoy View Post
Oh look vetteman can't deal with the fact that the cold war is over and that there is no actual reason for our continued fiddle fucking about in the middle east.


This is your mind on drugs.

OH look another pointless post from the RW NOT pointing out the bottom line benefits to the US and it's citizenry for the money, resources and lives lost aimlessly fucking about the middle east.

I R so shocked :rolleyes:
 
Oh look vetteman can't deal with the fact that the cold war is over and that there is no actual reason for our continued fiddle fucking about in the middle east.

Yeah and Putin is the next candidate for Pope and Nobel Peace Prize.:rolleyes: Are you nuts or just a troll.
 
Originally Posted by BotanyBoy View Post
Oh look vetteman can't deal with the fact that the cold war is over and that there is no actual reason for our continued fiddle fucking about in the middle east.


This is your mind on drugs.

Thumbs up for sure:D
 
Except the hot wars are fewer and farther between than at any point in history.

Assuming you consider undeclared wars and the Indian wars as being wars, the longest period of peace for the USA was from 11/11/1918 through 12/6/1941, a period of 23 years. For the world as a whole, I doubt there has ever, during historical time, been a period of over a year when there was no fighting between countries or tribal units or factions within countries or tribal units.
 
Assuming you consider undeclared wars and the Indian wars as being wars, the longest period of peace for the USA was from 11/11/1918 through 12/6/1941, a period of 23 years. For the world as a whole, I doubt there has ever, during historical time, been a period of over a year when there was no fighting between countries or tribal units or factions within countries or tribal units.

True. However there is a world of difference between the World Wars and other big wars fought between major world powers and these undeclared wars. The idea of a world war is absurd today.
 
I'm still waiting for some evidence that the world is on fire in any appreciable way. The Middle East has the same problems it's had for decades (that in many ways are our fault) but even they are playing nice by their standards. The only people fucking with Israel are the Palestinians, Egypt actually seems to be on what could be called good terms with them. Nobody is predicting Pakistan and India going at it (and I remember when that was thing) Russia literally invaded a country and the conquered people were bringing them water and food. . .and we punished them by driving down the price oil.

Can you even imagine Germany (who used to go to war on a damn near 20 year cycle along with much of Europe. Does a European war even sound like a thing that COULD happen? Serious question does Germany capturing Paris even sound like a thing?

Africa STILL sucks and sooner or later it'll sort itself out. (most likely when the Chinese and Indian middle classes "price" themselves out of the market and it becomes more economical for big businesses to locate their factories in Africa. But at the rate of automation everybody who's not a lawyer or Youtube personality might be priced out soon.) But much like the Middle East and South America they are mostly a danger to themselves and how huge a danger they are to themselves is worthy of discussion.

Oh as an aside crime is down, several diseases are nearly eradicated, despite incomes going down and wealth gaps increasing nobody in America or Europe are talking revolution and even if they don't always turn out the way we'd like
 
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