So when is this "Honest" discussion regarding race relations goint to occur?

[4est_4est_Gump]

Why don't you go back and search on some of the quotes from the Reefer Madness era?



Why are you focusing on one line out of context, again? and ignoring the real history of drugs, racism and the war on black musicians...

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Yeah, why focus on quotes from high ranking Nixon officials who initiated the false war on drugs.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

It's a simple case of hero worship. They can't admit that the war on drugs de facto start begun under Dick.

They like Dick but I think it's Reagan who really gives them wood.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yeah, why focus on quotes from high ranking Nixon officials who initiated the false war on drugs.

"Haldeman was one of many key figures in the Watergate scandal."

Impeached source.

Do you have anything other than one line? Any corroborating evidence?

Do you have the entire diary entry?



I didn't think so.

 

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[Ishmael]

What makes you think that I'm a Democrat? I am contemptuous of most politicians and both major political parties. But the fact remains that it was Nixon and his bias towards blacks that started the alleged war on drugs.

I didn't assume one way or the other.

And you are wrong again, the war on blacks and drugs started a LONG time before that. The Harrison Narcotics Act was passed in 1914 and signed into law by Woodrow Wilson. That law is the basis for ALL of the subsequent drug laws which were/are merely enhancements to the Harrison Act.

Ishmael

Edited to add; The public campaign to gin up support for passage of the Harrison Act SPECIFICALLY named the "black drug scourge" that would rape your daughters and kill your sons in their drug induced insanity. There was no attempt to hide the population that law was targeted at.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Modern Democrat Party would welcome Nixonian Economic Policy with Welcome Arms while calling Jack Kennedy a fucking racist REPUBLICAN!

:spit:

Fucking Catholics!

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

OMG, I provided quotes from high ranking Nixon officials who admit the war on drugs was in effect a war on blacks and you just cant accept the truth.

You'll be happy to know that my energy to get you to admit to the truth is not nearly as great as the energy you have to deny reality.

I give up. Wallow in your denial.

 

[Ishmael]

OMG, I provided quotes from high ranking Nixon officials who admit the war on drugs was in effect a war on blacks and you just cant accept the truth.

You'll be happy to know that my energy to get you to admit to the truth is not nearly as great as the energy you have to deny reality.

I give up. Wallow in your denial.

OMG who the fuck cares? Doesn't have shit to do with the subject.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"Look, we understood we couldn't make it illegal to be young or poor ...,"




Selective reading from agenda driven morons rooting for their "team."

 

[Ishmael]

"Look, we understood we couldn't make it illegal to be young or poor ...,"




Selective reading from agenda driven morons rooting for their "team."

The problem with taking the "it's all about the drugs" line as the cause is that whoever goes there is essentially parroting the propaganda used to pass the Harrison Act to begin with. The proponent is saying that blacks just can't stay away from drugs.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The problem with taking the "it's all about the drugs" line as the cause is that whoever goes there is essentially parroting the propaganda used to pass the Harrison Act to begin with. The proponent is saying that blacks just can't stay away from drugs.

Ishmael

All I see is a guy who found a blog that said what he wanted to hear, but didn't bother to research to make sure that he wasn't being manipulated by the Racialist Industrial Complex which is now dominating the same Administration which disingenuously challenges to have an honest conversation under politically correct rules that they write on the fly, I call it, "The Candy Crowley Third Debater" gambit...

 

[Sean Renaud]

The problem with taking the "it's all about the drugs" line as the cause is that whoever goes there is essentially parroting the propaganda used to pass the Harrison Act to begin with. The proponent is saying that blacks just can't stay away from drugs.

Ishmael

And if we can't? Whites couldn't stay away from liquor and we unfucked that scenario when we saw the harm it did. This is one of those cases where blacks are expected to behave essentially BETTER than whites in order to be treated EQUALLY. But don't let your own logic get in your way.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

OMG who the fuck cares? Doesn't have shit to do with the subject.

Ishmael

and what is the subject?

It seems to change based on what is posted in response.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Smooth, that may not have been what you meant but it is what you said. And the path to being a criminal is wanting things that you can't afford whether you need them or not and not being willing to take the time to work for them. There's plenty enough of 'white collar' crime out there being perpetrated by folks that are NOT poor, they just can't control their impulses.

You speak of the 'flash', bling, etc. Over 90% of that shit is going to end up at Goodwill or a landfill in 3 years if not sooner, and people are willing to risk their lives for that? When you sit back and think about do you realize how silly that is? And if that's what it takes to be looked up to in your neighborhood, I'd tell you to get the hell out of the hood.

Invest in yourself, get an education. Whatever interests you, a skilled trade, business, whatever. Buying that crap that passes for flash is only making someone else richer...............and they won't be going to jail for selling it.

Ishmael

I see what you are saying. But its hard to become something, when you don't know what you want to be. I just want the money. They could keep the fame.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I see what you are saying. But its hard to become something, when you don't know what you want to be. I just want the money. They could keep the fame.

Are you playing the scratch-offs on a regular basis?

 

[smoothg103rd]

Are you playing the scratch-offs on a regular basis?

I believe that there are no winning tickets in the hood. Now when I buy a ticket, I don't even scratch it. I just tell the people in the store to check it. I believe the lottery people know where the winning tickets are. And they will rather let the rich win than to let the poor luck up.

 

[Sean Renaud]

They don't. However scratchers are a waste of money but not the worst thing in moderation.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

OMG who the fuck cares? Doesn't have shit to do with the subject.

Ishmael

Ok so I went back and read the op and among all the racist bullshit, the only thing I could find was that you were somehow trying to Blame Obama, again, for everything and you stated the black people who comprise 13% of the population are responsible for 50% of the crime.

 

[Que]

I believe that there are no winning tickets in the hood. Now when I buy a ticket, I don't even scratch it. I just tell the people in the store to check it. I believe the lottery people know where the winning tickets are. And they will rather let the rich win than to let the poor luck up.

The distribution really is random. The odds of winning anything substantial means you should stick to cards or dice.

Lets sa it is not random and somebody in charge has a secret list of which boxes has the "good" tickets in it." Lets say he is an evil person and desirous of bankrupting the poor in general and black folks in particular.

What you would do is send more winning tickets to the hood, if you could. Since the house always wins, more tickets, means more money for the state, and ore of it out of the pockets of the great many that do lose.

Already known from a marketing strategy standpoint is that the poor in general and black folks in particular spend a higher percentage on their earnings on gambling than say rich white folks. Partly because having a small amount of money to begin with, any amount spent is kind of dear. Also, I believe that culturally, "luck" as a concept is pretty ingrained, as suggested by your own post.

And you are no dummy at math. You know you should lose according to the numbers but are still sort of surprised when you lose when you are "felling lucky," am I right?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I believe that there are no winning tickets in the hood. Now when I buy a ticket, I don't even scratch it. I just tell the people in the store to check it. I believe the lottery people know where the winning tickets are. And they will rather let the rich win than to let the poor luck up.

*chuckle*

The lottery is aimed at where the money is?

 

[smoothg103rd]

The distribution really is random. The odds of winning anything substantial means you should stick to cards or dice.

Lets sa it is not random and somebody in charge has a secret list of which boxes has the "good" tickets in it." Lets say he is an evil person and desirous of bankrupting the poor in general and black folks in particular.

What you would do is send more winning tickets to the hood, if you could. Since the house always wins, more tickets, means more money for the state, and ore of it out of the pockets of the great many that do lose.

Already known from a marketing strategy standpoint is that the poor in general and black folks in particular spend a higher percentage on their earnings on gambling than say rich white folks. Partly because having a small amount of money to begin with, any amount spent is kind of dear. Also, I believe that culturally, "luck" as a concept is pretty ingrained, as suggested by your own post.

And you are no dummy at math. You know you should lose according to the numbers but are still sort of surprised when you lose when you are "felling lucky," am I right?

I feel lucky every time I play. I think I should play on a day when I'm feeling unlucky. The most I ever won on one ticket is 20$. (And I play a lot of tickets). But I spent about 15$ on other tickets. So in reality I only won 5$. Recently I was playing one of those 1$ tickets "Hot Dice. I scratched it. I had 7 or 11 in all the four rows. I was feeling so happy I didn't even check my winnings. I was thinking at least 100$. Because I had 7 or 11 in all four rows. What to know how much I won? 4 fucking dollars. Meaning I won a dollar in each row. I wanted to cry. Lol

 

[smoothg103rd]

*chuckle*

The lottery is aimed at where the money is?

I think so.

 

[Que]

*chuckle*

The lottery is aimed at where the money is?

The money for the lattery is in the poor neighborhoods. I don;t know that the lottery department in my State actively targets it that way or not. I think they would tread carefully and not be too demographically driven.

One of the most cogent arguments against the State Lottery when it was on the ballot was that it is a regressive tax on the poor. In our state that would be often Hispanics and blacks in that order. Studies were trotted out about the demographics of players in other states.

I suspect they spend just as much maintaining the machines and kiosks in areas that they know few people play as in the lower socioeconomic neighborhoods where the bulk of the money is collected.

Seems there was a small tempest in a teakettle once about lottery billboards in Spanish in Hispanic neighborhoods. It was found that rich guys don't allow billboards in their back yards so the billboard campaign was going with what was available for purchase. The reason they were in Spanish was that the outdoor ad company had census tract data on languages spoken and would have recommended Spanish if it was an ad for Burger King.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The distribution really is random. The odds of winning anything substantial means you should stick to cards or dice.

Lets sa it is not random and somebody in charge has a secret list of which boxes has the "good" tickets in it." Lets say he is an evil person and desirous of bankrupting the poor in general and black folks in particular.

What you would do is send more winning tickets to the hood, if you could. Since the house always wins, more tickets, means more money for the state, and ore of it out of the pockets of the great many that do lose.

Already known from a marketing strategy standpoint is that the poor in general and black folks in particular spend a higher percentage on their earnings on gambling than say rich white folks. Partly because having a small amount of money to begin with, any amount spent is kind of dear. Also, I believe that culturally, "luck" as a concept is pretty ingrained, as suggested by your own post.

And you are no dummy at math. You know you should lose according to the numbers but are still sort of surprised when you lose when you are "felling lucky," am I right?

Mostly I agree. It would make more sense to dump more winning tickets in teh areas you want to bankrupt. However the bolded sounds like something that you copied without thinking about it. Blacks on average have the lowest income in the US. If they can afford it AT ALL they spend a greater percentage of their wealth on it than the rich. I'm sure the rich spend a great percentage of their money on yachts and leer jets and trips to Paris but C'mon I buy like two pairs of jeans, a belt and three shirts a year and I still spend a greater percentage of my income on clothing than probably most rich. Why? because 3/100 is three percent. 3,000/1,000,000 is point three percent.

Bigger fish is bigger even if it's spending a smaller percentage of it's income.

I feel lucky every time I play. I think I should play on a day when I'm feeling unlucky. The most I ever won on one ticket is 20$. (And I play a lot of tickets). But I spent about 15$ on other tickets. So in reality I only won 5$. Recently I was playing one of those 1$ tickets "Hot Dice. I scratched it. I had 7 or 11 in all the four rows. I was feeling so happy I didn't even check my winnings. I was thinking at least 100$. Because I had 7 or 11 in all four rows. What to know how much I won? 4 fucking dollars. Meaning I won a dollar in each row. I wanted to cry. Lol

I'm basically the same way, I buy $20 bucks on new years because my grand dad did and my dad does, half of whatever I win is mine the rest goes back into scratchers and that continues until I don't win or get bored or see something I want more.