So when is this "Honest" discussion regarding race relations goint to occur?

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[Beco]

I've seen the stats, I just don't find myself inclined to believe it, but I may end up being wrong. It won't hurt my feelings much.

Least racist guy is honest.

I was kidding of course and you are right, it was wrong to say that....a barroom joke which this altra sensitive General Board likes to go crazy on. But why would you disregard the facts? What do you base your opinion on?

The one thing I could guess on is that raising children is so damn expensive today, maybe this sector will backoff like so many other sectors. The birthrates are generally down these days with a few exceptions.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

I was kidding of course and you are right, it was wrong to say that....a barroom joke which this altra sensitive General Board likes to go crazy on. But why would you disregard the facts? What do you base your opinion on?

The one thing I could guess on is that raising children is so damn expensive today, maybe this sector will backoff like so many other sectors. The birthrates are generally down these days with a few exceptions.

Having kids in such large numbers is basically a defense mechanism. As your children become increasingly likely not only to survive but to thrive the less of them you have as a general rule. I'm sure there is a technical term for the phenomenon.

How expensive raising kids is may be part of the equation as well.

Regardless that trendline seems to be based on a the assumption the current trend will continue. And given how broadly Hispanic can be defined at this point it doesn't even mean we're talking about a bunch of what people are talking about when they generally mean hispanic, people who you could identify by sight, not people who have some blood in their background from south of the border.

And I fully admit I could be wrong.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It won't be expensive to irresponsible demographics who simply avail themselves of health care paid for by the tax payer.

^^^ A pitiful lack of self-awareness.

"Do as I say! Not as I do!"

 

[Sean Renaud]

It won't be expensive to irresponsible demographics who simply avail themselves of health care paid for by the tax payer.

Well we should all be doing that, but last I checked healthcare isn't the only thing probably not even the most expensive part of raising a child.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

the problem with race ... well SeanR is the perfect example. he's a total fuck up and blames the "man" for holding him down.

SeanR will cheat, steal and lie to collect welfare as he feels entitled to it

Well we should all be doing that, but last I checked healthcare isn't the only thing probably not even the most expensive part of raising a child.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

America is segregated due to people like SeanR that refuse to work. they want entitlements not opportunities

people are poor because they want to be

October 2014 Unemployment:

White: 4.8%
White men 20 and over: 4.2%
White women 20 and over: 4.6%
White Teenager (16-19): 16.3%

Black: 10.9%
Black men 20 and over: 10.7%
Black women 20 and over: 9.4%
Black Teenager (16-19): 32.6%

Asian (all): 5.0%

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Now start studying 'White Flight" and its effect on the opportunity for black people across America. Take a look at Segregation (yes, America is still segregated) and then look at unemployment in South Chicago (100% non-white) compared to any 100% white area. White flight takes not only the people, but the businesses and the opportunity as well.

If you are Black Teenager, 16-19 and living in South Chicago - your opportunity for employment that will advance you out of the ghetto is just slightly above zero, but if you sell some dope -you can have status, money and a considerably shortened life expectancy because another 16-19 Black Teenager might want what you've got and has even less opportunity if you already are selling on that corner.

It isn't the rich white kid in the 320i who goes to prison for buying heroin, it is the black teenager 16-19 who the white kid drops the dime on when he gets caught. The white kid gets, "Treatment Center, while black gets 3-5 years and becomes a 'crime statistic".

Your OP started and ended with the effect, but completely brushed by the causes and reasons - because they're ugly and don't present the face of American Exceptionalism that you want to present to the world.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Someone who really cares about truth and finding solutions to our racially divided USA should start a thread initiating an HONEST discussion about race relations.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

I'm aware that the primary duty of your side for the next few years will be to show up, vote no, and lose. Enjoy.

Which is proof that we're better people than you, we could filibuster everything.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Which is proof that we're better people than you, we could filibuster everything.

you are a lazy bitter welfare scumbag that adds nothing but misery to society

 

[Liar]

I'm aware that the primary duty of your side for the next few years will be to show up, vote no, and lose. Enjoy.

Are you saying the senate Republicans failed their primary duty for the last six?

No, let me rephrase that, it shouldn't even be a question.

You are saying that.

 

[Beco]

Having kids in such large numbers is basically a defense mechanism. As your children become increasingly likely not only to survive but to thrive the less of them you have as a general rule. I'm sure there is a technical term for the phenomenon.

How expensive raising kids is may be part of the equation as well.

Regardless that trendline seems to be based on a the assumption the current trend will continue. And given how broadly Hispanic can be defined at this point it doesn't even mean we're talking about a bunch of what people are talking about when they generally mean hispanic, people who you could identify by sight, not people who have some blood in their background from south of the border.

And I fully admit I could be wrong.

Not really sure what you're saying here, but if it doesnt go the way the trends say it will............you're covered.....

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Fuck off bitch. This discussion has been going on with Mr. Klan With A Tan for over ten years. Butt out.

Har! Lookit the old paleface asshole getting all frustrated and shit. Lashing out with spittle frothing up on his clenched lips, fervently trying to compensate for his shortcomings and overall dwindling hegemony.

Won't be long now. Ayup.

*sits back, sips champagne*

 

[RjThoughts]

Someone who really cares about truth and finding solutions to our racially divided USA should start a thread initiating an HONEST discussion about race relations.

None of the conservative GB regulars can do it, since they don't understand what it's like to be a minority, how to live as someone that has no privilege when it comes to the basic necessities of every day life in America. to them, ALL minorities are lazy slobs sucking on the tit of the government.

 

[RjThoughts]

^^^ A pitiful lack of self-awareness.

"Do as I say! Not as I do!"

He doesn't understand that, before the ACA, we already were paying for others' healthcare, through Medicare, Medicaid, and paying for the ER trips by those people who couldn't afford it, and that's mostly old white folks too stupid to go see a doctor before their conditions worsened.

 

[possum123]

The working people were paying for the health care for everyone else long before Obama came along. All Obama did is doing is washing the money through the insurance companies. Of course when you are washing money the people who are doing the washing keep the biggest part of the money. That is the role of the insurance companies now days.
The working people are still paying for the health care of everyone else but now have the added cost of paying the insurance companies.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The working people were paying for the health care for everyone else long before Obama came along. All Obama did is doing is washing the money through the insurance companies. Of course when you are washing money the people who are doing the washing keep the biggest part of the money. That is the role of the insurance companies now days.
The working people are still paying for the health care of everyone else but now have the added cost of paying the insurance companies.

Yeah, but the alternative was socialism and completely unnacceptable to Americans. It sucks it's just what we had to settle for.

 

[possum123]

Yeah, but the alternative was socialism and completely unnacceptable to Americans. It sucks it's just what we had to settle for.

Why would the alternate be socialism? It is something that the working people have had to accept. Money is taken away from them by force and given to another person.
Either way it is the same.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why would the alternate be socialism? It is something that the working people have had to accept. Money is taken away from them by force and given to another person.
Either way it is the same.

The working people didn't accept it and the Republicans didn't help. It just wasn't politically possible.

 

[possum123]

The working people didn't accept it and the Republicans didn't help. It just wasn't politically possible.

Got news for you. The working people didn't accept what we have now. We are being forced to be part of something even those who come up with the plan do not have enough confidence to accept for themselves.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Got news for you. The working people didn't accept what we have now. We are being forced to be part of something even those who come up with the plan do not have enough confidence to accept for themselves.

I'm aware that the working people didn't really accept what we have now. That's just the reality of how things are. The people who came up with the plan don't really need to accept it for themselves.

 

[possum123]

I'm aware that the working people didn't really accept what we have now. That's just the reality of how things are. The people who came up with the plan don't really need to accept it for themselves.

Does that actually sound right to you?
A group of people force others to pay for something they did not want or need but exempt themselves from the process.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Does that actually sound right to you?
A group of people force others to pay for something they did not want or need but exempt themselves from the process.

Yes. It sounds perfectly right.

They did need it whether or not they wanted it or not.

But why wouldn't Congress be exempt? They are the ruling class of rich people.