Republican House Intel committee exhonerates Obama, Hillary, Rice

[landslider2000]

I'm not on any "team."

What team is Panetta on? What team were the defenders at Benghazi on?

A report is a report -- not something final or dispositive re a topic.

Obama and Hillary and Rice had powerful campaign-related incentives to lie. Obama said weeks later at the UN that it was a video which catalyzed the attack, and that was at a time when he knew very well that was false.

Rice has a good education, and an 8th grader would have known right after Benghazi it was not fomented by some Internet video.

 

[PayDay]

Notice how it was released late Friday afternoon right before a Holiday week.

Republicans are trying to hide it.

Who makes up that comittee/panel?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Wow. That's 'xactly the way I see it. FDR was our first commie prez, Obama is second. To see how FDR's new deal actually worked, read Amity Shlaes's "The Forgotten Man". It is eerily familiar to Hussein's prescription for the financial crisis. By 1940 FDR knew the new deal was disaster. Rather than go back to free market economy, he chose world war.

Thomas Fieldings THE NEW DEALERS WAR spills the beans, too. 1940 was so bad Wendell Wilkie bolted the Democrats to run as a Republican. The people were fed up with the New Dealers. The war kept them alive for a spell.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I'm not on any "team."

What team is Panetta on? What team were the defenders at Benghazi on?

A report is a report -- not something final or dispositive re a topic.

Obama and Hillary and Rice had powerful campaign-related incentives to lie. Obama said weeks later at the UN that it was a video which catalyzed the attack, and that was at a time when he knew very well that was false.

Rice has a good education, and an 8th grader would have known right after Benghazi it was not fomented by some Internet video.

There's something you ain't getting, Slidey.

It doesn't matter what your opinion is. It doesn't matter how much you cry on this board, thinking if you repeat your opinion enough times it makes it fact or verity.

You lost this one. And there ain't no more money to be wasted on trying to win something you lost multiple times over now.

http://i.imgur.com/xGwXt6B.gif

 

[Sean]

I'm not on any "team."

What team is Panetta on? What team were the defenders at Benghazi on?

A report is a report -- not something final or dispositive re a topic.

Obama and Hillary and Rice had powerful campaign-related incentives to lie. Obama said weeks later at the UN that it was a video which catalyzed the attack, and that was at a time when he knew very well that was false.

Rice has a good education, and an 8th grader would have known right after Benghazi it was not fomented by some Internet video.

LOL. You're not on any team and yet the GOP had absolutely no "powerful campaign-related incentives to lie". Don't make me laugh, you're just another partisan dick head.

 

[landslider2000]

My opinion is of no import on this issue. What does matter is Panetta, who told Obama on Sept 11 it was (his words) an "attack by terrorists."

So Obama knew that very day it was NOT caused by a video. It was an attack by terrorists.

The defenders at Benghazi have said they were told to stand down. Were those brave men telling lies?

So the same questions endure: Who had a campaign incentive to lie? Who spoke out claiming it was a video?

Rice went on a series of Sunday talk shows to spread the video story. Two weeks later, Obama cited the video at the UN -- long after he knew very well that was not true.

So, whatever some report says, and whatever opinions one might have, we have what Panetta said and what those actually there said and we have Obama and Rice and Hillary spreading a fairy tale about a video just before an election.

 

[bronzeage]

The True Believers (tm) are saying the report is fake because... Republicans are just trying to protect Hillary. It's getting real weird.

They waited until after the election to release the report. The only people who received any protection were GOP candidates.

 

[possum123]

Some people believe it is possible for politicians to investigate themselves and come up with an honest out come.
It doesn't matter if it is democrats investigating republicans or republicans investigating democrats. They are all politicians. Politicians protect each other.
Even the investigation is all a farce.
The people who will believe the outcome of any investigation done by politicians are the same people who believe all of the emails that are lost and all of the computer crashes.
We have been shown many times how the govt. keeps track of any emails, phones calls, and even snail mail.
People should be smarter than they act. Can a political party be important enough to you that you will make a fool out of yourself trying to defend a politician?

 

[PayDay]

Notice how it was released late Friday afternoon right before a Holiday week.

Republicans are trying to hide it.

Who makes up that comittee/panel?

The True Believers (tm) are saying the report is fake because... Republicans are just trying to protect Hillary. It's getting real weird.

They waited until after the election to release the report. The only people who received any protection were GOP candidates.

I think it has more to do with smear than protecting anyone:

"You elected them and they've been making shit up"

ALSO MISDIRECTION:
To the OP: Did you even read the statements on the report?
http://intelligence.house.gov/press...sberger-statement-hpsci-final-benghazi-report

“We also concluded that there was no intelligence failure prior to the attacks but the early intelligence assessments and the Administrations’ public narrative on the causes and motivations for the attack were not fully accurate. A mixed group of individuals, including those affiliated with al-Qa’ida, participated in the attacks. Finally, the Committee found no evidence that CIA conducted any unauthorized activities in Benghazi and CIA did not intimidate any officer or otherwise dissuade them from telling their stories to Congress.*

The report is like a punch in the face to BO and his cohorts.
This thread is bullshit:
Go here for the full report and comments:
http://intelligence.house.gov/

Or here for THE MINORITY REPORT:
http://democrats.intelligence.house.gov/

 

[Libsam]

oh... that Mike Rogers guy. I've heard people call him a CIA apologist.


So does this mean that those Navy Seal guys lied to the American people?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

They waited until after the election to release the report. The only people who received any protection were GOP candidates.

Maybe youll win an election in 2016.

 

[phrodeau]

My opinion is of no import on this issue. What does matter is Panetta, who told Obama on Sept 11 it was (his words) an "attack by terrorists."

So Obama knew that very day it was NOT caused by a video. It was an attack by terrorists.

The defenders at Benghazi have said they were told to stand down. Were those brave men telling lies?

So the same questions endure: Who had a campaign incentive to lie? Who spoke out claiming it was a video?

Rice went on a series of Sunday talk shows to spread the video story. Two weeks later, Obama cited the video at the UN -- long after he knew very well that was not true.

So, whatever some report says, and whatever opinions one might have, we have what Panetta said and what those actually there said and we have Obama and Rice and Hillary spreading a fairy tale about a video just before an election.

Here's a headline for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/2...y-missteps-in-benghazi-attack-gop-controlled/

 

[PayDay]

Here's a headline for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/2...y-missteps-in-benghazi-attack-gop-controlled/

"The report alleges no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees."

"The report blames the Obama administration's inaccurate portrayal of the attack as having evolved from a protest on fragmentary and contradictory intelligence from the CIA."

Some people can't read...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

https://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/22/about-that-benghazi-report/

OK, is the Obama admin evil or just incompetent?

 

[PayDay]

https://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/22/about-that-benghazi-report/

OK, is the Obama admin evil or just incompetent?

That article is perfect for the on the fencers.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

That article is perfect for the on the fencers.

Someone obviously fucked up and wasn't up sitting by the phone.

Few believe it but the meaning of anything is its outcome. Regardless of the spin if something explodes in your face you simply discovered a new way to fuck up. And the President or Hillary shoulda gone on tv and said WE FOUND A NEW WAY TO FUCK UP. NEXT TIME WE'LL FUCK UP ANOTHER NEW WAY.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Sometimes in a war, even the good guys get killed.

In my never so humble opinion, we should be more concerned about some 17 year old PFC who got blown up for a few hundred bucks a month than we should be for some wealthy diplomat.

But that's just me.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Sometimes in a war, even the good guys get killed.

In my never so humble opinion, we should be more concerned about some 17 year old PFC who got blown up for a few hundred bucks a month than we should be for some wealthy diplomat.

But that's just me.

Why are PFCs so noble?

 

[JohnnySavage]

Why are PFCs so noble?

Why are Ambassadors?

 

[Comshaw]

That article is perfect for the on the fencers.

Actually it's perfect for those who have a modicum of intelligence and a smidgin of logic. I have no problem investigating anything like this. Seeking the truth in political matters should be a priority. But once a subject has been picked apart over and over (seven times) by those with opposing view points and little if nothing is found, isn't it time to let it rest? Leave it be? Allow it to die for lack of any credible evidence? That it isn't what you believe it is: some kind of complicated, convoluted, evil other side of the isle conspiracy?

There will always be those who refuse to accept the out come, those who scream at the top of their voice,"I don't care what was found I KNOW for a fact that *fill in the blank*!"

They do so without supporting facts, on faith and belief alone, no matter what factual evidence is presented or what is logically proven. Such is the human condition, to twist some of, ignore some of and cherry pick the rest of what is to support a deeply held but indefensible belief.


Comshaw

 

[Deleted member 1655181]

https://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/22/about-that-benghazi-report/

OK, is the Obama admin evil or just incompetent?

Well, this says the committee report purports that the CIA, military, etc., did their job. However, it also says the report does not vindicate the Administration's assertions that the event happened spontaneously due to a Coptic Christian's anti-Islamic video. I have to learn more about the Mike Rogers report.

Did any of our lefties here know that the Lois Lerner e-mails, which IRS says they never looked for, have now been recovered. You won't hear that on ABC NBC CBS CNN AP Vanity Fair, NY Times etc

About your question, only option that makes sense to me is they are both.

 

[PayDay]

Actually it's perfect for those who have a modicum of intelligence and a smidgin of logic. I have no problem investigating anything like this. Seeking the truth in political matters should be a priority. But once a subject has been picked apart over and over (seven times) by those with opposing view points and little if nothing is found, isn't it time to let it rest? Leave it be? Allow it to die for lack of any credible evidence? That it isn't what you believe it is: some kind of complicated, convoluted, evil other side of the isle conspiracy?

There will always be those who refuse to accept the out come, those who scream at the top of their voice,"I don't care what was found I KNOW for a fact that *fill in the blank*!"

They do so without supporting facts, on faith and belief alone, no matter what factual evidence is presented or what is logically proven. Such is the human condition, to twist some of, ignore some of and cherry pick the rest of what is to support a deeply held but indefensible belief.


Comshaw

So you have a problem with variables?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Why are Ambassadors?

As I recall no PFCs died in the Benghazi Snafu. I don't recall that PFC Birddog died after he abandoned his post in Afghanistan. He wasn't noble at all. From what I know of PTSD I roll my eyes at all the PFCs who go on the tv and cry about it. FO JES 19 DOLLUZ A MONFF I CAN BE WHOLE AGIN.

 

[DiskoTroop]

confirmation bias is a powerful thing. Best part is it tells the sufferer that they are actually deep thinking critical analyzers rather than blind believers and denialists of that which doesn't reinforce their needs

 

[JohnnySavage]

As I recall no PFCs died in the Benghazi Snafu. I don't recall that PFC Birddog died after he abandoned his post in Afghanistan. He wasn't noble at all. From what I know of PTSD I roll my eyes at all the PFCs who go on the tv and cry about it. FO JES 19 DOLLUZ A MONFF I CAN BE WHOLE AGIN.

You miss the point, which isn't surprising.

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the loss of an Ambassador diminishes the loss of the 1000s of other people in this never ending war.