If Ebola Is Kool Why 50 Hospitals?

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I read that CDC wants an ebola hospital in every state.

But ebola is no problem. Laurel guarantees it.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Hospitals exist for the purpose of preventing all sorts of communicable diseases from becoming problems of epidemic proportions.

Hospitals designed to specifically isolate and treat Ebola would perform the same function. One in every state would address the critical issue of getting a contagious victim to a properly equipped facility quickly.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Probably more a unit in every state able to handle Ebola quarantine. Not an entire hospital.

It is an out of control epidemic in some countries.

Reported cases have occurred in the US.

It kills 70%.

A hospital with a quarantine unit in every state sounds like just a reasonable precaution. In the "Global Village" and jet travel, it could show up anywhere.

A vaccine is on the way. In a few months this will slip off the front news page as fast as the Ukraine did. Poor illiterate people in west Africa will still be dying for a long while though.

 

[Que]

Probably more a unit in every state able to handle Ebola quarantine. Not an entire hospital.

It is an out of control epidemic in some countries.

Reported cases have occurred in the US.

It kills 70%.

A hospital with a quarantine unit in every state sounds like just a reasonable precaution. In the "Global Village" and jet travel, it could show up anywhere.

A vaccine is on the way. In a few months this will slip off the front news page as fast as the Ukraine did. Poor illiterate people in west Africa will still be dying for a long while though.

Here's the thing. Either one CAN eventually get a handle on Ebola and contain it, or you cannot. If it CAN be contained, keeping it quarantined where it is makes infinitely more sense.

The worldwide cost to implement an absolute quarantine on every location in Africa where it exists now even including reimbursing those locales for losses in trade and productivity is a fractional part of what it will cost if even 1/4 of the states prepared for Ebola have to deal with it here.

Victims here will have a better survivability rate, and we will learn a lot about the disease in the process, and it will not in the short term benefit Africans at all to have it dealt with here as well as there.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Hospitals exist for the purpose of preventing all sorts of communicable diseases from becoming problems of epidemic proportions.

Hospitals designed to specifically isolate and treat Ebola would perform the same function. One in every state would address the critical issue of getting a contagious victim to a properly equipped facility quickly.

But ebola isn't a problem. CDC says its creating fast response teams, too, though ebola is no problem. ITS NO PROBLEM, STOP SPREADING PANIC!!!!

 

[Wings]

Of course it's a problem. There is no need to panic though. Why must you be such a dense twat?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Probably more a unit in every state able to handle Ebola quarantine. Not an entire hospital.

It is an out of control epidemic in some countries.

Reported cases have occurred in the US.

It kills 70%.

A hospital with a quarantine unit in every state sounds like just a reasonable precaution. In the "Global Village" and jet travel, it could show up anywhere.

A vaccine is on the way. In a few months this will slip off the front news page as fast as the Ukraine did. Poor illiterate people in west Africa will still be dying for a long while though.

HOSPITAL is the word he used. He also said ITS NO PROBLEM.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I believe it is containable eventually. Difficult to catch still. It will be a major job for the WHO and NGO's and it will cost a lot of money. Thousands may die first though. Just require anyone travelling to west Africa be vaccinated first or immediately on arrival. Even that is a bit extreme.

But it will not be front page news.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Watching the sanitation guys work on the nurses house, today, I saw the problem. One of the hazmat workers leaves her house with a large bag of shit, walks up to some guys, sets the sack on the ground, and puts his arm around one of the civilians. Last week he was selling plasma.

 

[Ishmael]

Stupid and wasteful idea. Just an attempt on their part to build their bureaucracy.

Ishmael

 

[about_average]

The Emory unit that recently saved the lives of the two people with ebola was built to deal with bird flu some years back.
Having such a facility in all states is probably a good thing, especially considering how mobile people are today, vs. how mobile they were when most of the nation's hospitals were designed.

 

[Ishmael]

The Emory unit that recently saved the lives of the two people with ebola was built to deal with bird flu some years back.
Having such a facility in all states is probably a good thing, especially considering how mobile people are today, vs. how mobile they were when most of the nation's hospitals were designed.

Still a stupid idea.

When not under threat by some dire malady they will have NO mission whatsoever. That being the case they will have to invent missions in order to justify the horrendous expense that the proposed construction would entail.

And then there would be the political cat fights (pork distribution) that would necessarily occur in both the house and the senate with the unit in, oh say, N. Dakota getting shit in funding until that senators vote is needed on another piece of unrelated legislation in which case that unit would receive funding far in excess of what the population of that state would justify.

If you don't let it into the country, you don't have to deal with it.

Ishmael

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Leper colonies.

 

[QueenLevitra]

Leper colonies.

I nominate.....................

Cuba

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I nominate.....................

Cuba

Or Haiti. They're subhumans.

 

[garbage can]

I read that CDC wants an ebola hospital in every state.

But ebola is no problem. Laurel guarantees it.

I assume the CDC would want a level 4 bio-containment unit(s). Which would be more than many small states could afford.

From what I read, we have only 19 beds here in the states and 4 in the UK (level 4).
That seems a little meager, but 1 bed in every state may be overkill.

 

[Bidin~Time]

I assume the CDC would want a level 4 bio-containment unit(s). Which would be more than many small states could afford.

From what I read, we have only 19 beds here in the states and 4 in the UK (level 4).
That seems a little meager, but 1 bed in every state may be overkill.

This makes more sense (to me) than erecting or retro fitting an entire hospital in each state.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Still a stupid idea.

When not under threat by some dire malady they will have NO mission whatsoever. That being the case they will have to invent missions in order to justify the horrendous expense that the proposed construction would entail.

And then there would be the political cat fights (pork distribution) that would necessarily occur in both the house and the senate with the unit in, oh say, N. Dakota getting shit in funding until that senators vote is needed on another piece of unrelated legislation in which case that unit would receive funding far in excess of what the population of that state would justify.

If you don't let it into the country, you don't have to deal with it.

Ishmael

What you suggest is exactly what will happen.

 

[about_average]

Still a stupid idea.

When not under threat by some dire malady they will have NO mission whatsoever. That being the case they will have to invent missions in order to justify the horrendous expense that the proposed construction would entail.

And then there would be the political cat fights (pork distribution) that would necessarily occur in both the house and the senate with the unit in, oh say, N. Dakota getting shit in funding until that senators vote is needed on another piece of unrelated legislation in which case that unit would receive funding far in excess of what the population of that state would justify.

Ishmael

FFS!
"Dedicated ebola hospital in every state" does not mean a hospital in every state where that's all they do.

If you don't let it into the country, you don't have to deal with it.

Could you get any more naive?

 

[Riles]

The whole "difficult to catch" bit irks me. The hell it it is. Contact does not mean what we'd like it to mean. I watch horrifying hand hygiene happen every day with people dealing with MSRA,VRE and C-diff. It's enough to make one want to only exit their house in full PPE if you start thinking about how filthy the general public is.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The whole "difficult to catch" bit irks me. The hell it it is. Contact does not mean what we'd like it to mean. I watch horrifying hand hygiene happen every day with people dealing with MSRA,VRE and C-diff. It's enough to make one want to only exit their house in full PPE if you start thinking about how filthy the general public is.

No one speaks of fitness differences between Africa and America. I suspect Africans are better prey for the virus, succumb sooner, and the real incubation period HERE is longer.

 

[Riles]

No one speaks of fitness differences between Africa and America. I suspect Africans are better prey for the virus, succumb sooner, and the real incubation period HERE is longer.

That's actually an interesting thought. Tracking the changes in the disease process in places that are not third world...scary, but very cool from a scientific standpoint.

 

[about_average]

The whole "difficult to catch" bit irks me. The hell it it is. Contact does not mean what we'd like it to mean. I watch horrifying hand hygiene happen every day with people dealing with MSRA,VRE and C-diff. It's enough to make one want to only exit their house in full PPE if you start thinking about how filthy the general public is.

MRSA can survive for weeks on surfaces. Ebola is a matter of hours.

 

[Riles]

MRSA can survive for weeks on surfaces. Ebola is a matter of hours.

Yes. HOURS.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not the panic button type. I come at it from a front line worker standpoint.

 

[Bidin~Time]

The whole "difficult to catch" bit irks me. The hell it it is. Contact does not mean what we'd like it to mean. I watch horrifying hand hygiene happen every day with people dealing with MSRA,VRE and C-diff. It's enough to make one want to only exit their house in full PPE if you start thinking about how filthy the general public is.

AMEN!