Climate continues to change.

[KingOrfeo]

135 posts in 17 consecutive hours of posting.

I suspect he's spent for a while.

Nuh-uh, 'cuz he takes ginseng!

 

[Que]

All natural.

 

[thør]

Hmmmmm

Arctic sea ice is past it's summer minimum. And it looks to be similar to last year. Will we have another warm winter north of the Brooks range? No one really knows. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[KUJACK]

Change

Even if these stats are true, How can man change this without eliminating man from the face of the earth. Should we punish the poor with high energy costs, for minute changes in ave temp. One sun spot could change our life forever, and we worry about a coal fire

 

[phrodeau]

Even if these stats are true, How can man change this without eliminating man from the face of the earth. Should we punish the poor with high energy costs, for minute changes in ave temp. One sun spot could change our life forever, and we worry about a coal fire

When the poor are running large industries, we'll give them some slack on the regulations.

Man can stay on the face of the earth as he has done for countless thousands of years. And when the food he likes goes extinct or the well goes dry, he can find other things to eat and drink. Well, the fuel he uses is poisoning his home, so he needs to look elsewhere for fuel.

 

[Que]

When the poor are running large industries, we'll give them some slack on the regulations.

Man can stay on the face of the earth as he has done for countless thousands of years. And when the food he likes goes extinct or the well goes dry, he can find other things to eat and drink. Well, the fuel he uses is poisoning his home, so he needs to look elsewhere for fuel.

Of course socking large industries with regulatory burdens is not a problem because none of the consequences of that impacts the poor in anyway.

Not costs, not employment, not the actual pollution from the extra fossil fuel burned to deliver the things from across the globe. Their air pollution and carbon dioxide will stay in their part of the world.

 

[phrodeau]

Somebody has hit the bottle early today.

 

[domroger]

Their air pollution and carbon dioxide will stay in their part of the world.

When you come down from the drugs or alcohol you seem to be on ,reread your post and you will see what of load of bollocks it is .

This post and others like it is why I have a go at you .

 

[Que]

When you come down from the drugs or alcohol you seem to be on ,reread your post and you will see what of load of bollocks it is .

This post and others like it is why I have a go at you .

Sarcasm escapes you I see.

 

[KUJACK]

When the poor are running large industries, we'll give them some slack on the regulations.

Man can stay on the face of the earth as he has done for countless thousands of years. And when the food he likes goes extinct or the well goes dry, he can find other things to eat and drink. Well, the fuel he uses is poisoning his home, so he needs to look elsewhere for fuel.

Why don't we give coal to those who burn their dried poop for heat and cooking?. I see anticapitalism in your thread.

 

[domroger]

Sarcasm escapes you I see.

I judged that post on your past ones ,and it seemed to fit the general tenor of them .
of course they also may have been sarcastic , but I doubt it .

 

[BotanyBoy]

Somebody has hit the bottle early today.

That's a grand idea.....I'm going to go get some beer

 

[Que]

I judged that post on your past ones ,and it seemed to fit the general tenor of them .
of course they also may have been sarcastic , but I doubt it .

All 9,800 of them?

From a logical perspective, even if you knew nothing of my skepticism of the sky is falling alarmists, and had no idea how I feel about people that think "punishing" big business has no unintended consequences, how could you not read the post on its own clearly sarcastic tone?

 

[phrodeau]

Why don't we give coal to those who burn their dried poop for heat and cooking?. I see anticapitalism in your thread.

Why should anyone be allowed to burn coal? We only have one atmosphere.

 

[Que]

Why should anyone be allowed to burn coal? We only have one atmosphere.

To prevent hypothermia? To boil water and cook food to prevent the transmission of pathogens?

That OK with you?

/Not Sarcastic (to help the newbie having trouble following along)

 

[trysail]

Ain't this some shit?

http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/3451.txt

cc: k.briffa@uea.ac.uk,t.osborn@uea.ac.uk
date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
to: ray bradley <rbradley@geo.umass.edu>,mann@virginia.edu, mhughes@xxxxx.edu


Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim's got a diagram here we'll send that either later today or
first thing tomorrow.
I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual
land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.

Cheers
Phil



Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxx.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK

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[phrodeau]

Ain't this some shit?

http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/3451.txt








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The body of evidence for global warming does not depend on five guys.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1081095



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[Que]

The body of evidence for global warming does not depend on five guys.

It is interesting how much the shared data of a handful of guys corrupts "science."

Numerous models have been built on the corrupted data distorted by "corrections" imputed into the NOAA data sets.

Since the point of that appears to have been lost on you, let me illuminate.

It shows the mindset of the alarmists. They (and you) are quite sure that this is a problem. You and they are correct. My disagreement is the scale and the urgency of the problem. Your position (I am trying to accurately ascribe here) seems to be that it is better to be safe than sorry. lots of studies suggest a coming apocalypse so lets get to wok on the problem now. Again, reasonable position to take. I don't happen to agree, but having an alarmist position is defensible.

What is not defensible is short-cutting the science because you are so sure that the end result of the science when we finally (if ever) get modeling that is predictive will show you to be correct.

Assuming you are right, then fudging numbers to get from point a to point b not only is not science at all, it completely undermines all credibility.

It isn't just in climate not-science that this is occurring. It is occurring in academia pervasively.

Society's best and brightest are not currently located in academia. Lots of poser, plagiarists, and fabricators peer-reviewing each others absolute bullshit in a publish or perish bubble of stupidity.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Years from now, when the definitive history of global warming is written, Fox News will spin it as a cabal of 97% of the world's scientists thwarted by a plucky band of billionaires and oil companies.

It's indicative of the conservative mindset that gay marriage threatens Murica more than global warming.

 

[cowslinger64]

It is interesting how much the shared data of a handful of guys corrupts "science."

Society's best and brightest are not currently located in academia. Lots of poser, plagiarists, and fabricators peer-reviewing each others absolute bullshit in a publish or perish bubble of stupidity.

They seemed to be stationed behind their monitors in Arizona, Texas, Californy...

 

[Que]

...and 2mm of seawater on our flippety-flops is much more of a global threat than terrorism.

 

[Que]

They seemed to be stationed behind their monitors in Arizona, Texas, Californy...

We know for a fact they aren't behind a monitor in the rust belt.

 

[cowslinger64]

We know for a fact they aren't behind a monitor in the rust belt.

Now that wasn't bad. Even tho you had to use mine and change the words a little.


I'l give you a C minus, only cause I grade on a curve...

 

[KingOrfeo]

Society's best and brightest are not currently located in academia.

Well, they sure as hell ain't located in corporate boardrooms.