Ratings curiosities

[tv46]

I recently posted a new chapter to my story. I watched the ratings and observed the following scores (this is from memory, so may not be exact, but you will see the point I am trying to make)

5.00 rating after 7 votes
4.11 / 9, suggesting two 1 ratings
Drifted up to 4.50 after about a dozen votes, then back down to 4.20
4.37 / 27 votes
4.71 / 24 votes. Looks like 3 very low ratings were deleted.

Did some users get kicked off for spiking ratings?

 

[lovecraft68]

I recently posted a new chapter to my story. I watched the ratings and observed the following scores (this is from memory, so may not be exact, but you will see the point I am trying to make)

5.00 rating after 7 votes
4.11 / 9, suggesting two 1 ratings
Drifted up to 4.50 after about a dozen votes, then back down to 4.20
4.37 / 27 votes
4.71 / 24 votes. Looks like 3 very low ratings were deleted.

Did some users get kicked off for spiking ratings?

Yes, the site runs a sweep-I think once a week-and it targets suspicious one bombs. Some people will give your story multiple one bombs from different user names in a short period of time and the sweep will get rid of that.

It will also sometimes get rid of 5 votes if they came in in the same manner.

What category is your story? Some get trolled more than others.

 

[tv46]

Group Sex. Looks like it just applied to my last chapter. No changes to previous chapters.

 

[lovecraft68]

Group Sex. Looks like it just applied to my last chapter. No changes to previous chapters.

Then its just trolls wandering up and down the new story list. Unless they have something personal against you its too much work to click onto your other stories so its only the recent ones

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I have 2 accounts. On my alt account some of my stories are close to 4.5, on JBJ none are. The AH cool kids hit me every time.

 

[lovecraft68]

I have 2 accounts. On my alt account some of my stories are close to 4.5, on JBJ none are. The AH cool kids hit me every time.

There's cool people in the Ah?

Glad they think so.

 

[SecondCircle]

I supposed there is what is conceived as the "cool crowd". Then there are those that put themselves outside the lines of that box.

When really, the truth is inevitable, as in all things. There is no box. The lines are there because of those that draw them.

 

[HuckPilgrim]

AH? What is AH?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I supposed there is what is conceived as the "cool crowd". Then there are those that put themselves outside the lines of that box.

When really, the truth is inevitable, as in all things. There is no box. The lines are there because of those that draw them.

In or outta the box shouldn't matter with the merits of the writing, but I know some are jealous of flirting, fraternizing with the enemy, etc, and score accordingly. They have no honor. Youre one of them.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AH? What is AH?

ass hole

 

[SecondCircle]

Why, it's the Author's Hangout. You're here with us my friend.

 

[SecondCircle]

In or outta the box shouldn't matter with the merits of the writing, but I know some are jealous of flirting, fraternizing with the enemy, etc, and score accordingly. They have no honor. Youre one of them.

Or the opposite end of the spectrum. The quick and anal retentive judgement of any story on an amateur writing site, based on the idea that one must call stories "horrible" just because so many others call them "pretty good". Just to prove some point that will likely never matter.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Or the opposite end of the spectrum. The quick and anal retentive judgement of any story on an amateur writing site, based on the idea that one must call stories "horrible" just because so many others call them "pretty good". Just to prove some point that will likely never matter.

They were horrible. Did you read what many said about their tales? I mean, a few of the notorious ass kissers expressed delight but most fessed up that FAWC5 wasn't all that good. It wasn't. And asskissing doesn't change the results. Besides, few of these clowns ever repudiate a high 5 from me.

 

[SecondCircle]

They were horrible. Did you read what many said about their tales? I mean, a few of the notorious ass kissers expressed delight but most fessed up that FAWC5 wasn't all that good. It wasn't. And asskissing doesn't change the results. Besides, few of these clowns ever repudiate a high 5 from me.

Uh huh. I see.

Let's expound on thay for a bit. In the long ago, I managed to aquire one of these coveted JBJ 5 star ratings. Surprising to me, but I dunno how to take that five. It means one of a few things. Either A). It is as you say, an honest no BS five star rating from JBJ. Because he calls em like he sees em. B) It was a rating not honest, given when JBJ hardly read the story and one given for reasons I cannot fathom. C) It simply appealed to your taste and you generally liked the story.

I have no idea. What I do know, is that story was indeed written some time ago and was in no way a "wonderful" story. The fucking thing was riddled with errors that could have been edited away, I used adverbs like they were fired from a machine gun, I used the word "pale" repetitively (so much it was idiotic), the concept was fine but the plot to support it was completely full of holes and inaccuracies that make me cringe to this day. At best, the thing may have scratched by with an honest 4, but I thought it was worthy of merely and average lackluster 3.

JBJ rated it a five. That's cool, everyone's entitled to an opinion on what they read, and I was thankful that many individuals thought it rated high. Yourself included.

But then we have stories that make that one look hideous and you say they were wretched and stupid in every single way. I don't want to argue the point (not arguing at all I like discussing things with you) but it does seem that you praised a McDonald's cheeseburger highly, then turned nose from Red Robin's. The logic doesn't add up.

What are things JBJ rates a story on? How do they factor into his honest decision? What makes one story forgettable and another legendary?

 

[lovecraft68]

They were horrible. Did you read what many said about their tales? I mean, a few of the notorious ass kissers expressed delight but most fessed up that FAWC5 wasn't all that good. It wasn't. And asskissing doesn't change the results. Besides, few of these clowns ever repudiate a high 5 from me.

Ah, JBJ the demotivational motivator. Gotta love it.

Or ignore it.

Me, I'm a fan of getting better through the motivation of , "Oh, yeah? Fuck you."

 

[HuckPilgrim]

Why, it's the Author's Hangout. You're here with us my friend.

Aye, I've made it!

 

[AMoveableBeast]

Ah, JBJ the demotivational motivator. Gotta love it.

Or ignore it.

Me, I'm a fan of getting better through the motivation of , "Oh, yeah? Fuck you."

Whenever people get long-winded and mean with me, I like to think of this scene for "Do the Right Thing" and feel better.

"Mookie: Dago, wop, guinea, garlic-breath, pizza-slingin', spaghetti-bendin', Vic Damone, Perry Como, Luciano Pavarotti, Sole Mio, nonsingin' motherfucker.

Pino: You gold-teeth-gold-chain-wearin', fried-chicken-and-biscuit-eatin', monkey, ape, baboon, big thigh, fast-runnin', high-jumpin', spear-chuckin', three-hundred-sixty-degree-basketball-dunkin' titsun spade Moulan Yan. Take your fuckin' pizza-pizza and go the fuck back to Africa.

Stevie: You little slanty-eyed, me-no-speaky-American, own-every-fruit-and-vegetable-stand-in-New-York, bullshit, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, Summer Olympics '88, Korean kick-boxing son of a bitch.

Officer Long: You Goya bean-eating, fifteen in a car, thirty in an apartment, pointed shoes, red-wearing, Menudo, mire-mire Puerto Rican cocksucker. Yeah, you!

Sonny: It's cheap, I got a good price for you, Mayor Koch, "How I'm doing," chocolate-egg-cream-drinking, bagel-and-lox, B'nai B'rith Jew asshole.

Mister Senor Love Daddy: Yo! Hold up! Time out! TIME OUT! Y'all take a chill! Ya need to cool that shit out! And that's the double truth, Ruth!"

The world's full of foul-mouthed, clever-minded assholes, and the guy giving you friction probably doesn't even rate.

 

[sr71plt]

I recently posted a new chapter to my story. I watched the ratings and observed the following scores (this is from memory, so may not be exact, but you will see the point I am trying to make)

5.00 rating after 7 votes
4.11 / 9, suggesting two 1 ratings
Drifted up to 4.50 after about a dozen votes, then back down to 4.20
4.37 / 27 votes
4.71 / 24 votes. Looks like 3 very low ratings were deleted.

Did some users get kicked off for spiking ratings?

Back to the OP, yes, you're experiencing just about the same pattern that most of the rest of us do (and, no, I don't think anyone gets kicked off for playing these games--their voting may be kicked out, though).

The ratings going down quickly and dramatically is pretty much a function of site games that have nothing to do with the story, and the fluctuation in ratings and vote numbers is the Web site's effort to neutralize this. The game isn't going to change and it isn't happening just to you--by a long shot--so it's usually best to separate your expectations from the ratings. They just are part of the game. Even the comments are gamed. Suggest that you look more to the views and the favoriting stats.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Uh huh. I see.

Let's expound on thay for a bit. In the long ago, I managed to aquire one of these coveted JBJ 5 star ratings. Surprising to me, but I dunno how to take that five. It means one of a few things. Either A). It is as you say, an honest no BS five star rating from JBJ. Because he calls em like he sees em. B) It was a rating not honest, given when JBJ hardly read the story and one given for reasons I cannot fathom. C) It simply appealed to your taste and you generally liked the story.

I have no idea. What I do know, is that story was indeed written some time ago and was in no way a "wonderful" story. The fucking thing was riddled with errors that could have been edited away, I used adverbs like they were fired from a machine gun, I used the word "pale" repetitively (so much it was idiotic), the concept was fine but the plot to support it was completely full of holes and inaccuracies that make me cringe to this day. At best, the thing may have scratched by with an honest 4, but I thought it was worthy of merely and average lackluster 3.

JBJ rated it a five. That's cool, everyone's entitled to an opinion on what they read, and I was thankful that many individuals thought it rated high. Yourself included.

But then we have stories that make that one look hideous and you say they were wretched and stupid in every single way. I don't want to argue the point (not arguing at all I like discussing things with you) but it does seem that you praised a McDonald's cheeseburger highly, then turned nose from Red Robin's. The logic doesn't add up.

What are things JBJ rates a story on? How do they factor into his honest decision? What makes one story forgettable and another legendary?

Maybe I lost my mind when I scored your story. PM Laurel and make her remove my 5.

 

[SecondCircle]

Maybe I lost my mind when I scored your story. PM Laurel and make her remove my 5.

I remove no comments, stories, votes, put no posters on ignore, whether any are good, glowing, bad, horrid, or neutral.

You are my rock, Jimbo.

 

[sr71plt]

I remove no comments, stories, votes, put no posters on ignore, whether any are good, glowing, bad, horrid, or neutral.

You are my rock, Jimbo.

You missed the most likely reason he gave you a 5: (D) At that point in the forum game, saying he gave you 5 for a story was the most galling posting his agenda indicated he could drop into the discussion.

Chances are great he didn't even read your story.

 

[SecondCircle]

You missed the most likely reason he gave you a 5: (D) At that point in the forum game, saying he gave you 5 for a story was the most galling posting his agenda indicated he could drop into the discussion.

Chances are great he didn't even read your story.

Which was a consideration of mine (filed under "reasons I cannot fathom" because this behavior is odd to me).

Seeing as our OP had questions about the strange patterns with ratings and votes, and we know the answer is undoubtedly rating manipulation, AND that many have considered our Mr. Johnson a "troll", I thought perhaps it was fair to get his thoughts on how he rates said stories. If a story is awesome he could provide thoughts on why, and if it was horrible he could offer the same.

It's only... fair... to consider JBJ's take on it.

 

[sr71plt]

It's only... fair... to consider JBJ's take on it.

The why of this is what I can't fathom. (What he's up to in his posts seem quite transparent to me). He's been a blatant and belligerent fake for so long and so often that I can't fathom why you'd think that.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You missed the most likely reason he gave you a 5: (D) At that point in the forum game, saying he gave you 5 for a story was the most galling posting his agenda indicated he could drop into the discussion.

Chances are great he didn't even read your story.

I carefully scrutinize every story for a Habu Style barrel, pool table, doll house, barber chair, and large dog. Finding none I carefully scrutinize every story for SAPP Style arrogance, condescension, priggishness, and catty insults. Then I screen for settings like Key West, San Francisco, Fire Island, and anywhere in Britain. Finally I look for mention of gerbils, carrots, and cucumbers. Whats left is prolly a real 5.

 

[lovecraft68]

It's only... fair... to consider JBJ's take on it.

You did not type that with a straight face. I know you didn't