Amazon Writers Caught Using AI

[big_cane_sugar]

I guess this might be the future of second-rate fiction but unless AI makes huge improvements first-rate fiction is going to continue to require genuine human thought and creativity.

 

[StillStunned]

Wait a second. Is she saying her beta reader used AI, or that AI is her beta reader?

It's been a while, but if I remember rightly she was claiming that her beta reader had added stuff that was written by AI, and that she hadn't had time to check the beta reader's input before sending the manuscript to the publisher.

Make of that what you will.

 

[ChloeTzang]

That is very suspicious. As a fast writer I can pull off 60K in 30 days, and I have my spreadsheet from the latest NaNo to back that up. Even then, after making a NaNo draft, I don't even want to write a story longer than 2.5K for at least another 30 days. I'm not sure how someone would draft 2 full blown novels on a monthly basis either, let alone having them 100% done and published. I don't even think the pulp writers from the 30s did that, and they were fast writers on their own. They didn't even have computers in the first place.

I can consistently do 5k words a day no issue, and I've done 15k but that was a 16 hourr day, writing non-stop, no time out for plotting or anything else, so if you do a novel every 2 weeks, go at 10k a day. I've writtem a 105k word novel in 3 weeks no problem. It's remotely possible.Very very remotely, because you try doing that for 2 years continuously. Ain't no way he did 171 novels in 2 years. She's faking it with AI for sure.

 

[Nightaelf]

I can consistently do 5k words a day no issue, and I've done 15k but that was a 16 hourr day, writing non-stop, no time out for plotting or anything else, so if you do a novel every 2 weeks, go at 10k a day. I've writtem a 105k word novel in 3 weeks no problem. It's remotely possible.Very very remotely, because you try doing that for 2 years continuously. Ain't no way he did 171 novels in 2 years. She's faking it with AI for sure.

I’ve been working on a story for months now and I’ve just hit 70,000 words. I have to admit I also finished and wrote other stories in the meantime, but I honestly wouldn’t know how to develop characters at such a high writing speed. That’s why I usually work on several stories at once. Ideas need time to take shape, even bad ones!

I should add that I really write for relaxation and not with the intention of publishing, maybe that makes a difference, but still...

 

[yano2mch]

I'm using Eleven Labs text to speech AI, but they have their own internal baggage as well (tough TOS).

As KoboldCPP updates i've been trying a few of the suggested TTS models... some sound good, some are not so good. The fast and dirty ones are workable as basic TTS, but others sound like they are on crack. I liken the one to 'Dave Makes Noises' on the Ripper Youtube channel when talking D&D. Not bad, but certainly not the target sound/cadence of a voice.

But the processing involved takes forever, or maybe because it's not offloading to GPU, i don't know. Though i would prefer AI voices over not, if only because i see so many 'tutorials' where people are typing into notepad to convey what they want to say, when a basic TTS would be fine as long as it gets the job done. A lot of people don't want to use their own voice, because doing the same take and then editing it... something that's a 20 second spot taking 5-10 minutes to get right just doesn't feel worth it.

 

[ChuckWolf]

As KoboldCPP updates i've been trying a few of the suggested TTS models... some sound good, some are not so good. The fast and dirty ones are workable as basic TTS, but others sound like they are on crack. I liken the one to 'Dave Makes Noises' on the Ripper Youtube channel when talking D&D. Not bad, but certainly not the target sound/cadence of a voice.

But the processing involved takes forever, or maybe because it's not offloading to GPU, i don't know. Though i would prefer AI voices over not, if only because i see so many 'tutorials' where people are typing into notepad to convey what they want to say, when a basic TTS would be fine as long as it gets the job done. A lot of people don't want to use their own voice, because doing the same take and then editing it... something that's a 20 second spot taking 5-10 minutes to get right just doesn't feel worth it.

Eleven Labs was pretty easy to figure out and use, but I let my membership lapse, because (at the time) there was no practical way to use it, as Eleven Labs wouldn't let it be used for overtly erotic work and most sites are (often understandably) hostile to having AI stuff on their platform.

I would post some examples I'd done, but I don't think this site would want me to do that.

 

[yano2mch]

I would post some examples I'd done, but I don't think this site would want me to do that.

Mhmm. I tend to use the same text to test audio. "Hello fellow human; i'm totally a human, just like you." or something similar. It's short, funny, and i get to see how it sounds/feels, usually under hilarious results.

I want to be able to do it locally. Yeah may take an hour to generate something, but i did it on my hardware, not relying on the cloud or paying for such a service. Still waiting 10 minutes for 45-60 seconds of speech... a bit of a letdown. Could be worse.

 

[ChuckWolf]

From what I recall, there was a different list of female voices and you could modify the tone with certain tags, Something like:

<flirty but dominant>"My girls are going to have a lot of fun with you!</flirty but dominant>

You could create a lot of different voices/tones, but the inherent censorship of their software made it pretty impossible for how I wanted to use it.

 

[Bramblethorn]

It's been a while, but if I remember rightly she was claiming that her beta reader had added stuff that was written by AI, and that she hadn't had time to check the beta reader's input before sending the manuscript to the publisher.

Make of that what you will.

I do not think that word means what she thinks it means.

(edit: whoops, necro)

 

[ElectricBlue]

I do not think that word means what she thinks it means.

(edit: whoops, necro)

Yano2mch is crawling the past. I've just responded to another post, then realised the date. Sigh.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Yano2mch is crawling the past. I've just responded to another post, then realised the date. Sigh.

Itnos2little.

 

[yano2mch]

Yano2mch is crawling the past. I've just responded to another post, then realised the date. Sigh.

Yes i realized afterwards the 'similar threads' that that particular thread was 4-5 months old. But it's not like it was 2 years old. I stopped from replying to that one. Not like it's totally out of date, just not replied to in a while.