Help with an icky plot hole

[LaRascasse]

So one of my main characters is a chain smoker. I literally put a cigarette in her hand in every scene (many times she finishes one and goes onto the next in the space of two paragraphs). Think of her as the ten packs a day kind.

It suddenly occurred to me that kissing such a person would be an entirely unpleasurable experience (heavy nicotine stench). But she must kiss...

Any ideas on a workaround?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So one of my main characters is a chain smoker. I literally put a cigarette in her hand in ever scene (many times she finishes one and goes onto the next in the space of two paragraphs). Think of her as the ten packs a day kind.

It suddenly occurred to me that kissing such a person would be an entirely unpleasurable experience (heavy nicotine stench). But she must kiss...

Any ideas on a workaround?

I like girls who smell like butt cans.

 

[sr71plt]

Make her partner(s) a smoker too.

 

[Saxon_Hart]

So one of my main characters is a chain smoker. I literally put a cigarette in her hand in ever scene (many times she finishes one and goes onto the next in the space of two paragraphs). Think of her as the ten packs a day kind.

It suddenly occurred to me that kissing such a person would be an entirely unpleasurable experience (heavy nicotine stench). But she must kiss...

Any ideas on a workaround?

The girls I've dated that have smoked, from heaviest pack + a day to a girl who made a pack last a week. I honestly didn't notice a huge difference between them. Since I quit smoking however the thought makes me queasy. Make the guys don't mind licking ash trays....

 

[October46]

So one of my main characters is a chain smoker. I literally put a cigarette in her hand in ever scene (many times she finishes one and goes onto the next in the space of two paragraphs). Think of her as the ten packs a day kind.

It suddenly occurred to me that kissing such a person would be an entirely unpleasurable experience (heavy nicotine stench). But she must kiss...

Any ideas on a workaround?

have her drinking a strong scented alcohol or have them kiss her pussy first.

 

[lovecraft68]

Honestly? Have the characters remark on it. Make a couple of jokes like the guy saying, "Hold on" and handing her a piece of gum or a mint. Acknowledge it that way. It gets you off the hook with picky readers who would notice the plot hole like you did and could add some fun.

Anytime she goes to make out its, "Hold on..."

 

[SikFuk]

Her partner has no sense of smell, due to an industrial accident.

or

Her partner has a smell fetish. Think of the doors this could open - pee-stained panties, butt hole. Have fun.

(i'd go with option two, but that's because I'm a sick fuck.)

 

[MSTarot]

So one of my main characters is a chain smoker. I literally put a cigarette in her hand in every scene (many times she finishes one and goes onto the next in the space of two paragraphs). Think of her as the ten packs a day kind.

It suddenly occurred to me that kissing such a person would be an entirely unpleasurable experience (heavy nicotine stench). But she must kiss...

Any ideas on a workaround?

Well my first thoughts on this is that something else about her must be attractive enough that the person kissing her isn't going to mind.

A non smoker with a multi pack a day chain smoker is in for a lesson in compromise. If he wants to keep her.

Her clothes, body, breath , house, car, basically everything about her will all smell like smoke. And for that matter so will he after any amount of time with her in a enclosed space. When he leaves her he will notice it on his clothes.

Maybe he has issues with the smoke after awhile as well. A non smoker in a smokers house will feel like he can't breath after awhile. Been there, done that one myself.

Use it. Use it all in your story to help it sell.

MST

 

[Hypoxia]

She meets compatible folks at the cancer clinic where she'll have her left lung removed. After each chemo session, she plops a clean smoke-free wig onto her bald skull. Hilarity ensues when she grabs the wrong wig one day.

 

[sr71plt]

OK, I don't see it. Why isn't pairing her with another smoker the simple answer? Why all of these convoluted suggestions?

 

[Hypoxia]

OK, I don't see it. Why isn't pairing her with another smoker the simple answer? Why all of these convoluted suggestions?

Because 'simple' is too easy and we're all scheming neurotics with delusions of adequacy.

 

[49greg]

Pair her with another smoker. A non smoker is going to smell her smoke on her clothes, her hair, her breath and wouldn't want to kiss her. Probably wouldn't even get physically close to her.

I did kiss a smoker once. It was terrible. I wanted to brush my teeth and gargle. And take a shower.

Like a buddy once said, girls who smoke are OK to fuck, just don't kiss 'em.

 

[Swilly]

As others said, make him s smoker. Or...give him a smoking fetish. Then...maybe even the smell on her would turn him on.

 

[slyc_willie]

I grew up in a household in which both my parents were heavy smokers (two packs a day). It was business as usual. Smoke was always in the air in my house. Having grown up in that environment, I never gave it much thought. This was back in the seventies and eighties when smoking was still pretty much common (an even more so, I think, for military).

As I got into my late teens, I hated the smell. Especially in the mornings when my mother would be getting ready for work and the caustic stench of cigarettes plus hairspray would permeate the house. I would cover the vents with plastic wrap and stuff a blanket under my bedroom door to try to keep the smell out.

But then, at the age of nineteen, I started dating a girl, a topless dancer from the southside of San Antonio, who smoked. I didn't mind the smell on her. In fact, I found it erotic. While it still bothered me in the morning when my mother would get ready for work, when I was with my stripper girlfriend, and I would taste the nicotine on her lips, it was somehow arousing. She was a kinky and energetic lover, and I guess I somehow equated that scent with sex.

And, just to add: I later became a smoker myself, but not until the age of 24. Even when I was with my smoking girlfriend, I did not smoke. Ironically enough, nearly everyone I seriously dated afterward, and my wife, were not smokers.

Maybe this helps, maybe it doesn't. But I wanted to illustrate that even the current villainy of smoking is not always black and white.

 

[LadyVer]

So one of my main characters is a chain smoker. I literally put a cigarette in her hand in every scene (many times she finishes one and goes onto the next in the space of two paragraphs). Think of her as the ten packs a day kind.

It suddenly occurred to me that kissing such a person would be an entirely unpleasurable experience (heavy nicotine stench). But she must kiss...

Any ideas on a workaround?

Someone that smokes that much isn't going to have time to screw. Just saying.

 

[Bert_Fegg]

I dated a girl who smoked fairly heavily. Kissing her was fine as long as she'd been drinking since her last cigarette.

Why not give your character a hip flask full of Listerine or something?

 

[robertreams]

If one smokes,one doesn't notice the stench in others. Also add a spritz of one of those spray breath fresheners to her addictions. Back in the day I often sprayed my clothes as well as my breath, for exactly the problem you created.

 

[Hypoxia]

Why not give your character a hip flask full of Listerine or something?

Mouthwash makes a lousy shampoo. (Gotta get the stink out of the hair too.) And at 54 proof and US$3 per 1.5 liters, WalMart house-brand Listerine equivalent also makes for a cheap drunk. You just don't want to be near a mouthwash alky when they puke. OMFG what a smell FTW!! Smoke is better.

Some points of cigaret realism:

* The smoker doesn't realize just how bad she smells.
* The smoker doesn't notice others sidling away from her.
* The smoker wonders why all her friends are drunks.
* The smoker thinks that if she sits in the back of the bus and keeps her lit fag hidden, nobody aboard will notice.
* The smoker thinks that certain fag-holding postures and gestures make her look elegant and/or chic and/or sexy.
* The smoker keeps puffing away while pumping self-serve gasoline. Explosions? What explosions?
* The smoker thinks nicotine improves her concentration. And it does -- for awhile.

Mea culpa: I consumed cigs for a decade. All the above points applied. I eventually tired of my mouth tasting like the bottom of a birdcage. Now, a vanilla cigar every couple years is enough. (My favorite vanilla cigars are from Veracruz, downhill from Xalapa.)

 

[oggbashan]

Mouth fresheners work very well for kissing.

But if the character is repelled by the smell of smoke on her clothing, then you have a real problem.

 

[Bert_Fegg]

Mouthwash makes a lousy shampoo. (Gotta get the stink out of the hair too.) And at 54 proof and US$3 per 1.5 liters, WalMart house-brand Listerine equivalent also makes for a cheap drunk. You just don't want to be near a mouthwash alky when they puke. OMFG what a smell FTW!! Smoke is better.

Some points of cigaret realism:

* The smoker doesn't realize just how bad she smells.
* The smoker doesn't notice others sidling away from her.
* The smoker wonders why all her friends are drunks.
* The smoker thinks that if she sits in the back of the bus and keeps her lit fag hidden, nobody aboard will notice.
* The smoker thinks that certain fag-holding postures and gestures make her look elegant and/or chic and/or sexy.
* The smoker keeps puffing away while pumping self-serve gasoline. Explosions? What explosions?
* The smoker thinks nicotine improves her concentration. And it does -- for awhile.

Mea culpa: I consumed cigs for a decade. All the above points applied. I eventually tired of my mouth tasting like the bottom of a birdcage. Now, a vanilla cigar every couple years is enough. (My favorite vanilla cigars are from Veracruz, downhill from Xalapa.)

Yeah - I said that badly - I wasn't thinking she could swallow - just a quick trip to the ladies, rinse, spit and all's ready for snogging. Fair point about the hair though....

 

[lovecraft68]

You know the easier baser solution is this....

I know there are a lot of posts up there to the extent of kissing an ashtray and how gross it is. yada yada.

Well I have news for you. If the girl is hot and she is ready to fuck no guy is going to say "sorry. but you reek of cigarettes" they are going to say "Yeah, baby, I'm getting laid"

So please let's stop acting like it would stop that because it wouldn't. The little head has no sense of smell and you guys are flattering yourselves.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You know the easier baser solution is this....

I know there are a lot of posts up there to the extent of kissing an ashtray and how gross it is. yada yada.

Well I have news for you. If the girl is hot and she is ready to fuck no guy is going to say "sorry. but you reek of cigarettes" they are going to say "Yeah, baby, I'm getting laid"

So please let's stop acting like it would stop that because it wouldn't. The little head has no sense of smell and you guys are flattering yourselves.

This is true.

A stiff cock isn't particular.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is true.

A stiff cock isn't particular.

Yeah got a little case of "high horse" going on here.

Like the guys that would say that girl would be hot if she lost a few pounds. That same guy would hop on that "chubby" girl in a heartbeat if she let him.

Things like weight, looks, and even smoking becomes something a predatory man uses. "You're fat, but hey its your lucky day I'll still fuck you. '

"Yeah, you smell like an ashtray, but I'm feeling generous today I'll let you get on your knees."

So the answer to the question is reference it in the story to point out someone might make a remark, but its not going to hold anything up, especially in a quick fuck. If its a relationship then in "non sex" scenes the guy could say, "do you have to smoke so much" but it is never stopping sex.

Men give themselves too much credit, especially in the porn world which is controlled by women whether they like it or not.

 

[Bert_Fegg]

I think it's a mistake to believe that everybody sees things the same way you do. Smoking is a major turn off for me at least, and usually if I see a girl with a lit cigarette it kills any desire I might feel. The girl I referred to in my earlier comment was pretty much the one exception to this, and as much as I liked her there's still no way I'd kiss her until her mouth was free of cigarette flavour.

Not every bloke thinks with his dick

 

[lovecraft68]

I think it's a mistake to believe that everybody sees things the same way you do. Smoking is a major turn off for me at least, and usually if I see a girl with a lit cigarette it kills any desire I might feel. The girl I referred to in my earlier comment was pretty much the one exception to this, and as much as I liked her there's still no way I'd kiss her until her mouth was free of cigarette flavour.

Not every bloke thinks with his dick

And let me ask you..... would you admit that you do?

Of course no man says "I think with my dick"

We're not talking LTR here, that this is the woman you will wake up with everyday we're talking a story on a porn site where its all about reading "with your dick" or at least your hand on it.

Or do you see a reader saying "she's a smoker I can't even read about him fucking her while she smells like tobacco"

Typical male fucking ego that thinking with your dick cannot even be acknowledged.

So your single and....Sasha Grey says "let's go baby" but before you fuck she smokes a couple of Marlboros then says, "Okay Bert, come on, anything you want."

And you will say "I'm sorry Miss Grey, but I simply cannot touch you unless you brush your teeth and chew some gum"

Yeah, sure you do.

Failure to admit weakness is the ultimate sign of said weakness. I'm glad you think you're so above the rest of your species.