Will Ukraine situation lead to World War III?

[Liar]

That you're fairly free with your assertions, and very poor on backup for them.

I've already posted a link to CIA stats which say the USA is far from the top of the league table of nations, by GDP per capita.

His numbers correspond to what CIA has tallied as 2013 nominal GDP per capita. But ignores a bunch of countries both above and below the US, for whatever reason. Either he had an incomplete source or he doesn't consider Norway, Switzerland, Denmark and Kuwait real countries. You never know with Byron.

I'm not a professional economist. Not even a bad amateur in the field. But I know how to Google.

 

[Scotsman69]

You're correct of course Lovelynice...

But then, you're not some redneck bigot.

They bombed the crap out the civilian population, destroyed the infrastructure such as power supplies and water, then forced a puppet regime to agree to sweet monopolistic deals with USA corporations.

You're definitely not living in the real world.

 

[Scotsman69]

Liar, thanks for the elucidation.

The CIA table to which I provided a link demonstrates that they recognise small countries as valid comparators. Which is why the CIA figures I quoted showed the USA some way from the top of the world GDP per capita league table.

His numbers correspond to what CIA has tallied as 2013 nominal GDP per capita. But ignores a bunch of countries both above and below the US, for whatever reason. Either he had an incomplete source or he doesn't consider Norway, Switzerland, Denmark and Kuwait real countries. You never know with Byron.

I'm not a professional economist. Not even a bad amateur in the field. But I know how to Google.

 

[eyer]

I'll take North America against the world for $100, Alex...

 

[Byron In Exile]

His numbers correspond to what CIA has tallied as 2013 nominal GDP per capita. But ignores a bunch of countries both above and below the US, for whatever reason. Either he had an incomplete source or he doesn't consider Norway, Switzerland, Denmark and Kuwait real countries. You never know with Byron.

I'm not a professional economist. Not even a bad amateur in the field. But I know how to Google.

And yet you figured out what Scotsman the faux-pro economist couldn't.

The top three countries in per capita GDP are Monaco, Liechtenstein, and Luxembourg. I consider them real countries, of course. Do they matter in terms of this discussion? No. They are tiny countries, and hardly economic powerhouses on the world stage. Next are Qatar and Norway, whose per capita GDP figures are skewed by oil exports. Then Switzerland... woo hoo. Great place to live if you're a banker. Then United Arab Emirates, Kuwait... It's not that they're not countries, it's that they're not significant. There are twice as many people in Los Angeles as there are in Norway.

Originally, I just listed the US and EU.

Then I added Russia, China, India, and Ukraine. Then some of the large European countries, plus Japan.

Finally, I added Mexico and Chile just to give some context for Russia and China.

If you eliminate the little countries (by little I mean countries with populations smaller than that of the State of Texas), the US tops the list.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Re: Liar, thanks for the elucidation.

The CIA table to which I provided a link demonstrates that they recognise small countries as valid comparators.

No, it doesn't. They just list all the countries.

Which is why the CIA figures I quoted showed the USA some way from the top of the world GDP per capita league table.

I believe it to be past your bedtime.

 

[jeninflorida]

we must remember that obama is a pussy


socialism is a mental disorder

 

[Liar]

And yet you figured out what Scotsman the faux-pro economist couldn't.

The top three countries in per capita GDP are Monaco, Liechtenstein, and Luxembourg. I consider them real countries, of course. Do they matter in terms of this discussion? No. They are tiny countries, and hardly economic powerhouses on the world stage. Next are Qatar and Norway, whose per capita GDP figures are skewed by oil exports. Then Switzerland... woo hoo. Great place to live if you're a banker. Then United Arab Emirates, Kuwait... It's not that they're not countries, it's that they're not significant. There are twice as many people in Los Angeles as there are in Norway.

Originally, I just listed the US and EU.

Then I added Russia, China, India, and Ukraine. Then some of the large European countries, plus Japan.

Finally, I added Mexico and Chile just to give some context for Russia and China.

If you eliminate the little countries (by little I mean countries with populations smaller than that of the State of Texas), the US tops the list.

K.

Wassup w Ireland?

 

[minn]

And...

we must remember that obama is a pussy

Obama may be a pussy (without a doubt) but fortunately, America isn't. Russia is a 1950 Chevy compared to America's 2014 Corvette. P.S. Puttin is definitely a poser and a pussy!

 

[eyer]

Russia is a 1950 Chevy compared to America's 2014 Corvette.

Ut oh...

 

[Scotsman69]

Kuwait is so insignificant

that the USA had to roll out its war machine to 'protect' it, at $60 billion cost to the US taxpayer, and the loss of 294 US lives, along with thousands of Kuwaitis and Iraquis, and hundreds from the US allies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

Obviously very insignificant indeed.

As Norway is so completely insignificant. It only controls access to Russia's north coast ports from the Atlantic. An unfortunate fact from the point of view of the Russian Navy.

When this statistical spat began, I don't remember any proponents of the view that US citizens are the world's richest, qualifying that by specifying 'of SIGNIFICANT countries.'

So, Naughtius, when beaten in argument, you resort as most losers do, to changing the goalposts.

It never works pal.

And yet you figured out what Scotsman the faux-pro economist couldn't.

The top three countries in per capita GDP are Monaco, Liechtenstein, and Luxembourg. I consider them real countries, of course. Do they matter in terms of this discussion? No. They are tiny countries, and hardly economic powerhouses on the world stage. Next are Qatar and Norway, whose per capita GDP figures are skewed by oil exports. Then Switzerland... woo hoo. Great place to live if you're a banker. Then United Arab Emirates, Kuwait... It's not that they're not countries, it's that they're not significant. There are twice as many people in Los Angeles as there are in Norway.

Originally, I just listed the US and EU.

Then I added Russia, China, India, and Ukraine. Then some of the large European countries, plus Japan.

Finally, I added Mexico and Chile just to give some context for Russia and China.

If you eliminate the little countries (by little I mean countries with populations smaller than that of the State of Texas), the US tops the list.

 

[snugglestruggle]

... just pointing out that whatever the future may bring, right now Europe is the USA's biggest, most stable, and consistently democratic trade partner. And is likely to remain so for a very long time.

Tiananmen Square is a very long way from Europe. Its effects still resound in China. And nowhere in Latin America or Africa has a long track record in either democracy or political stability. In Asia, only India has a sustained track record in democracy for over sixty-five years, but has had its wobbly moments during that time. I'd put more money on India as a reliably growing trade partner than on China. If I was a betting man, which I'm not.

So you're left with Canada, Australia and New Zealand as stable trade partners, other than Europe.

As an auld Scots leftie, I desperately hope for, and have spent much of my life campaigning for, improvements in the lives of Asian, African, Middle-eastern and Latin American citizens. I've done it for long enough to know that political promises can be attractive, but real sustained change comes slowly

I'm not really disagreeing with you per say. However a free person is always more productive than a slave, history is full of examples, the cold war being just 1.

The long game is with Asia & the America's because thats where the future economic growth is. The bankers know this, follow the money. Always follow the money. China has made tremendous inroads into Africa locking up vital natural resources via trade , construction etc. When the commies fall & china goes headlong into democracy they will replace us. Children are learning Chinese in America at an ever increasing rate, I wonder why?

Europe maybe is our biggest trade partner now but it's barely reproducing enough people to maintain it's current population. IN-fact if it wasn't for the influx of middle astern/N African folks into the EU s they would be in the minus big time.

I think in 20 yrs maybe less European demographics will reflect an Islamic majority. Do ya think they are going to want many American services or products. Me thinks not.

China will bring up the America's too. They will eventually experience an awakening once they overcome their illiteracy problems (mostly due to poverty).

Of course all bets are off if Aliens invade because we taste like chicken or if theres an apocalyptic event and the world is in tatters. Those are just my UnEdUcAtEd AmeriKan views.

No American Blood for the Ukraine.

 

[Scotsman69]

Naughtius, you are very naughty indeed.

In this thread, you assert that Kuwait is insignificant. Yet in another thread, posted yesterday, you assert that 'Ukraine is nowhere near as significant as Kuwait'.

You are hardly a model of consistency.

It was well past my bedtime. GMT is five hours ahead of EST. I slept well, thank you.

No, it doesn't. They just list all the countries.

I believe it to be past your bedtime.

 

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[Beco]

No American Blood for the Ukraine.

Oh come on, we'll be in and out of there in a few days.....

 

[jeninflorida]

Oh come on, we'll be in and out of there in a few days.....

obama lacks balls.

asshat obama will draw a red line...then redraw it on his pussy lips as obama sucks

 

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[Scotsman69]

I'm not sure my many

Canadian friends would buy into that eyer...

I'll take North America against the world for $100, Alex...

 

[eyer]

I'm not sure my many

Canadian friends would buy into that eyer...

Not a problem...

...you know the old saying:

With friends like yours...

 

[Scotsman69]

You know nothing about my friends

and little about me.

Canada has the longest land-border with the USA.

And it's way up at the top of your list of single-state trading partners.

So just be careful with your ignorant throw-away comments. If there's one huge, rich nation the USA dare not ever fall foul with, it's your northern neighbour.

Not a problem...

...you know the old saying:

With friends like yours...

 

[snugglestruggle]

Oh come on, we'll be in and out of there in a few days.....

At most Barry O will give away more tax dollars to the "Sorros Freedom Fighters" & send them arms that he doesn't want US citizens to have.

I seriously doubt we could beat Mexico in a battle if our special forces stay out of it. Speaking of which...our Special forces branches can't keep doing the job their full blown services. How many Rangers, GB and Seals have we lost now? I know the pentagon is full of Paper Generals. Theres probably 5 generals for every Pvt. The Military has been turned into a politically correct reflection of America GOD Save Us, well at least the south lol.

 

[eyer]

and little about me.

Canada has the longest land-border with the USA.

And it's way up at the top of your list of single-state trading partners.

So just be careful with your ignorant throw-away comments. If there's one huge, rich nation the USA dare not ever fall foul with, it's your northern neighbour.

Like I posted earlier:

I'll take North America against the world for 100...

...wannabe.

 

[Byron In Exile]

K.

Wassup w Ireland?

That was exactly my question.

Is Guinness really that popular?

I had to include it as, "hey, look what you can do with a tiny county with no resources!"

I'll look into it. I just included it as a curiosity.

 

[Byron In Exile]

No American Blood for the Ukraine.

Or the France. Or the Germany. Or the Spain. Or the Italy.

Drop the article.

 

[Byron In Exile]

In this thread, you assert that Kuwait is insignificant. Yet in another thread, posted yesterday, you assert that 'Ukraine is nowhere near as significant as Kuwait'.

You are hardly a model of consistency.

Have you really been here six years?

Or did you sign up, take a 5.9 year break, then start posting stuff?

"Significant" is dependent upon context.

Kuwait was extremely significant to George I of USA. When Al-Sabah demanded the US get his country back, I was reminded of that Victrola label with the dog listening to the gramophone: "His Master's Voice."

Kuwait was a rook. Ukraine is a pawn.

Everything I said was true: put it together and you'll see how significant Ukraine is.

It was well past my bedtime. GMT is five hours ahead of EST. I slept well, thank you.

I'm in California, so it's eight hours.

I appreciate you staying up late to tilt at windmills, but I'm getting the feeling that you don't know me at all.