What's the scoop in Ukraine - latest news and commentary from the war against the Orcs

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Nearly 42K Orcs KIA and nearly 6K Armored vehicles KO'd? Oh yeah, that's tough love, but its the sort of love the Orcs deserve.....

Proving once more that nuclear disasters only exist in the mind, the Orcs shelled the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) in Enerhodar and of course, blamed the UA for it. OF COURSE the Orcs did it. They are storing weapons on the site, they are shooting from the site, and they are practically doing everything possible to make something bad happen at the site, just so they can say Ukraine did it. They are getting beat up (verbally) by the UN and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for "Violating every principle of Nuclear Safety" in the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. This includes storing weapons and ammo inside the plant, shooting at Ukrainian units from the plant grounds, and trying to conduct some false flag attacks on the plant and blaming Ukraine. From the same dudes who brought you Chernobyl folks, we have more nuclear fuckery. Well, the UA didn't do it, and they won't because they lived with Chernobyl and KNOW what the hell that did. Russia? Well, they didn't seem to know about it. To the point of they had units get radiation sickness when moving through the area!

Strategically, it appears that things have switched over.

Numerous sources have been saying that it appears the strategic initiative has switched over to Ukraine, meaning that they are now calling the shots. This seems to be proving true. Mordor has had to stop offensive actions because of UA actions and is now in the position of being forced to react to what Ukraine is doing now, not the other way around. Don't believe me? Why have they stopped the NE drive in DONBAS? Because they needed to move orcs south. Why can't they mass enough men to push through in Bakhmut? Because they have to support the south. Why do they have to support the south? Because of Ukrainian actions there.

We got a new band playing, and the Russians are getting ready to pay the piper.

So aside from the NNP shelling, there's more action going on. The UA has sent 3 more ammo dumps and 4 SA-300 ADA sites to the afterlife in the south, and even more fun is that some of this was done via airstrike. That means the UAF is in play and is actually flying CAS missions against targets that are supposed to be protected. Not only that, the UAF now has some 20more aircraft than they started the war with, thanks to "spare parts" arriving from neigboring countries. The Flying Orcs are MIA, and their ADA is getting taken out. If the UAF gets air superiority here, which it looks like they're working quite sucessfully towards, oh man, this counter-offensive is going to be fun to watch (not if you're a an Orc, but we don't give a flying fuck for them, except that it's kinda cool to watch them being blown up, burnt, shot, fried or otherwise exterminated).

More back and forth in the east, no major changes to the frontlines. RUMINT has that the UA is looking to lay some hurt down in the Izyum AO since the Orcs have robbed this area of units (remember that whole thing about being not able to replace personnel or rotate units?), and the Orcs are now scared they can't stop it without giving up ground somewhere else.

The driver right now is that Mordor is out of steam. In order to keep what they have, they have to keep pushing because if they stall out, they risk the UA massing and counter-attacking them and rolling them back. Kharkiv is the prime example of this, as the Orcs are launching spoiling attacks in order to keep the UA from hitting them. The results of this are more worn down Orc units. There's going to be a point when they can't even do that but the Orcs are stuck in a pretty vicious cycle here, with no way out.

In Kherson, the Orcs are trying to mass enough forces to stop the UA offensive that's coming down the pipe, moving a lot of troops and equipment into the Kherson pocket north of the Dnieper River and forming a counter-attack force (it's also the security force and will be the main effort for the next major attack north to the border of the Oblast, hey, why just give a unit ONE mission?). And they are robbing Peter to do it from Zaporizhzhia which is next door. If you wanted to see how dim the orcs can be, this would be a pretty solid example. The Orcs are weakening the area that is IDEAL for the UA to attack. They breakthrough in Zaporizhzhia, and drive south and west, and the whole 49th CAA would be outflanked and taken from the rear. Actually not even that, since the UA would just need to drive down the riverside and cut them off as the Orcs are on the wrong side of the river without the means to rapidly redeploy any units back over, since the bridges are all gone and the ferry they're using is within easy HiMARS range.

Logistically speaking, the Orcs are in real trouble with the bridges across the Dneiper being hammered. The Orc units being moved in are coming from the East and any unit coming from that hell on the eastern front is already going to be heavily shot up and understrength. Remember, these units are not US Army units. They don't have a replacement pipeline, and they are not getting new well-trained replacements from a Training Command that exists ONLY to keep them filled. The Orcs are down to replacements coming from volunteer units, recruited from various sub-states of the Federation, with a couple of weeks of VERY basic training and NO advanced training. A lot of those replacements are physically sub-standard to start with, and they're being moved to the front with almost no training and very little weapons familiarization. Cannon fodder, in other words.

You don't win a war like that, not against a military like Ukraine's, that is making sure its replacement pool is getting the full training, and is taking a risk with the training lag, because they know that a trained replacement is worth more than some shmuck with two weeks of training shoved into the front line to fill a hole. Not only that, Ukraine is busy building a million-man army, while they're stepping up partisan warfare all across the temporarily occupied areas. Latest reports from Kerson describe a real hell-hole, with Russians torturing and executing anyone even remotely suspected of opposition, and burning the bodies in mobile incinerators to destroy the evidence, while Ukraine resistance targets collaborators and orcs, blowing them up and shooting them nightly. Apparently gangs of Ukrainian teenagers also roam the streets at night, attacking and knifing drunk Russian soldiers to death. One suspects that when Kherson is recaptured, it's going to make Bucha look like a walk in the park.

What else? Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Amnesty International. The Ukrainian representative for Amnesty International quit today over AI not including them in several investigations and publishing reports that were obviously heavily pro-Russian-slanted and a gift to Russian propaganda. Ukraine pretty much told them to go and fuck off, and I agree. 100%. Amnesty International have officlally gotten into victim-blaming, deliberately mis-interpreted the legal conventions in a totally slanted and misleading way, and have pretty much discredited themselves completely. So yeah, fuck Amnesty International.
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No Pasaran is an unfortunate slogan because those who said it LOST the Spanish Civil War and Franco's forces did pass over the dead bodies of the International Brigade.
 
No Pasaran is an unfortunate slogan because those who said it LOST the Spanish Civil War and Franco's forces did pass over the dead bodies of the International Brigade.
Then there were the 7000 who tried to hold back the Greeks at Thermopolae. Remember the Alamo, and the lives lost in the Crimea by the Light Brigade. Let us also not forget the beaches at Normandy. Or Iwo Jima.

It's called courage. Which is something severely lacking here and instead has been supplanted by whining threats of retaliation while hands are held out for undeserved favoritism.
 
I was not criticising the bravery of those who fought in the Spanish Civil war, but the slogan's unfortunate associations when it comes to Ukraine.
 
I was not criticising the bravery of those who fought in the Spanish Civil war, but the slogan's unfortunate associations when it comes to Ukraine.
Courage is almost never found in peace, only conflict, and is written in the blood of those who would not yield no matter the cost.

Your countrymen held the line when they were called upon to do so. As did the Spanish. As do the Ukrainians today. No Pasaran isn't just a pair of words and whoever wins the battle where the sentiment behind those words comes to the fore, is irrelevant.
 
They passed, but "No Pasaran" as words held a lot of power, and they still do. If you look back in history, it's often defeats we look to as sources of inspiration, where the defeated didn't surrender, but fought a heroic battled against huge odds, were defeated, and came back victorious. Thermopylae. Balaclava. The Alamo. Dunkirk. Pearl Harbor.... and now, Ukraine has Mariupol... a battle that will go down in history, not least because the Russians have been murdering POW's who surrendered at Mariupol.

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Then there were the 7000 who tried to hold back the Persians at Thermopylae. Remember the Alamo, and the lives lost in the Crimea by the Light Brigade. Let us also not forget the beaches at Normandy. Or Iwo Jima.

It's called courage. Which is something severely lacking here and instead has been supplanted by whining threats of retaliation while hands are held out for undeserved favoritism.

Exactly.....


And every single warrior of the Ukraine Armed Forces is a hero, literally fighting the hordes of Mordor.... and a country's music sometimes says a lot more than mere words....

 
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Then there were the 7000 who tried to hold back the Greeks at Thermopolae. Remember the Alamo, and the lives lost in the Crimea by the Light Brigade. Let us also not forget the beaches at Normandy. Or Iwo Jima.

It's called courage. Which is something severely lacking here and instead has been supplanted by whining threats of retaliation while hands are held out for undeserved favoritism.
Did you mean the Persians?
 
I mentioned some months ago the importance of Ukraine taking down the Kerch Strait bridge It isn't enough to put holes in the roadway. They have to find a way to put at least 2000+ lbs of high-order explosive on the bridge's abutments. None of the weapons we've given them can put that kind of kinetic energy on target. They need laser-guided munitions or remotely guided vessels that can be maneuvered under the bridge's critical spans, but I'm sure the Russians have those sea approaches covered. The Crimea needs to be logistically isolated.
 
I mentioned some months ago the importance of Ukraine taking down the Kerch Strait bridge It isn't enough to put holes in the roadway. They have to find a way to put at least 2000+ lbs of high-order explosive on the bridge's abutments. None of the weapons we've given them can put that kind of kinetic energy on target. They need laser-guided munitions or remotely guided vessels that can be maneuvered under the bridge's critical spans, but I'm sure the Russians have those sea approaches covered. The Crimea needs to be logistically isolated.
They might be able to take it out with Harpoon missiles. The Block II models feature autonomous, all-weather over-the-horizon capability and can execute both land-strike and anti-ship missions. Drawback is that the Harpoon lacks the range to reach Crimea or the Kerch Strait Bridge from current Ukrainian-held territory. That 500lb warhead can do a lot of damage when it hits though.

I kind if wonder if it could be fitted to one of the UAF strike aircraft? Altho I guess that would mean a lot of work to make the electronics compatible. But a sea-level strike at 50' coming in from the Black Sea to come within range...... I have no idea if current UAF aircraft could even do that....

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Ukraine Doesn’t Want the US Air Force’s Aging A-10 Warthogs​


Throughout the course of the Russo-Ukrainian War, the US has offered to send – and has sent – an array of weapons and equipment to the Ukrainian military. Calls for additional resources continue to come in, with the Ukrainian Air Force asking for modern Western aircraft. The US Air Force recently said it’s willing to send a portion of its Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II fleet, something that hasn’t impressed Ukraine’s minister of defence. US military officials and the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence have been in ongoing talks regarding what type of aircraft to send. While the primary and immediate focus is on defeating the invading Russian forces, there’s also a hope of building the Ukrainian Air Force to protect against future adversaries.

On July 20, 2022, Secretary of the US Air Force Frank Kendall said the service would be willing to send some of the country’s A-10 fleet, should Ukrainian officials want them.....

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/news/a-10-warthog-ukraine.html?chrome=1

 
The problem with A-10s is that Ukrainian pilots are trained on and use Russian aircraft. They would need substantial retraining to use US aircraft which is why some European countries have been sending their own Russian aircraft and replacing them with more modern US fighters.
 
They might be able to take it out with Harpoon missiles. The Block II models feature autonomous, all-weather over-the-horizon capability and can execute both land-strike and anti-ship missions. Drawback is that the Harpoon lacks the range to reach Crimea or the Kerch Strait Bridge from current Ukrainian-held territory. That 500lb warhead can do a lot of damage when it hits though.

I kind if wonder if it could be fitted to one of the UAF strike aircraft? Altho I guess that would mean a lot of work to make the electronics compatible. But a sea-level strike at 50' coming in from the Black Sea to come within range...... I have no idea if current UAF aircraft could even do that....

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Yeah the Block ID version has a range said to be 170 nautical miles (195 air miles). The Kerch Strait bridge is about 200 air miles from Kherson. They need something along the lines of the Precision Strike Missile, which isn't quite operational yet. I don't think we'd be willing to hand over that kind of technology that has the capability to attack Russian territory (Range 310 miles). But again it's the warhead, probably too light for the job. The previous model had a CEP of around 30 feet. They could use some upgraded aircraft as well.
 
Incidentally, in an announcement dated August 4, 2022 the US has now detailed 12 F-22s to Poland where there were only 2 prior to this deployment.
 
77 years today, the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima.

I'm 100% that Kremlin, as much of war criminals as they showed themselves to be, will never drop the bomb. Because America will gladly drop one too.
 
One? Once both start it will be hundreds.
btw
I read the other day this surprising opinion of Merkel.
that Merkel is, in fact, a very savvy politician.
That she knows Putin well, has no illusions about Russia's imperialism, and that her attempts to do business with Russia pipeline etc, were in fact -far from being a dumb move -- also an attempt to keep Russia's imperialism in check, and bring cooperation between Europe and Russia.

Now I don't know much about History,
but it just occurred to me: maybe that's why West European leaders are going with everything America dictates? Not because Europe is an American colony, but out of wisdom, knowing how reckless America can also be.


Of course Russia is the villain and invader in all this.
But Europe is now dealing with two dangerous super-powers
 
When Germany invaded the USSR in 1941 in Operation Barbarossa, The invading Germans passed Russian supply trains delivering oil and grain to Germany. Before that invasion, the USSR was Germany's largest trading partner. Most of the armoured vehicles invading the USSR were running on Russian fuel.
 
When Germany invaded the USSR in 1941 in Operation Barbarossa, The invading Germans passed Russian supply trains delivering oil and grain to Germany. Before that invasion, the USSR was Germany's largest trading partner. Most of the armoured vehicles invading the USSR were running on Russian fuel.
This forum needs a thread about the History of Germany-Russia axis, and the Russia-Ukraine-Poland-Baltics axis.
We can't fully understand this war, without that.
 
77 years today, the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima.

I'm 100% that Kremlin, as much of war criminals as they showed themselves to be, will never drop the bomb. Because America will gladly drop one too.
Will we? What makes you so sure that if Putin used a nuke on Ukraine we would launch a nuclear strike against Russia?
 
my comment looks stupid & redundant
but if you recall, before 2022 many of us didn't even know that Russia and Ukraine had been at war for years.
If you wish to learn about history, then buy a history book...plenty in the library and online to choose from. This is a political forum, not your history class.

Anyone with even partial understanding of history already knew how the Ukraine and ex USSR countries came to exist.
 
If you wish to learn about history, then buy a history book...plenty in the library and online to choose from. This is a political forum, not your history class.

Anyone with even partial understanding of history already knew how the Ukraine and ex USSR countries came to exist.
So that's your view of History.
a thing set in stone, written by objective people with a world-view that we should all embrace and memorise
 
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