Terminology for a story (opposites of sadist and masochist)

[sunandshadow]

I'm trying to write a story in a public story universe where sadist/masochist pairs of characters are fairly common. But I need a parallel set of terms to refer to a different pair of characters where one's focus in on giving pleasure and one focus is on receiving pleasure instead. (Specifically the pleasure receiver is the sub and the pleasure-giver is the dom, if that matters.)

For receiving pleasure I could go with hedonist, unless someone has a better idea. Sybarite would be ok too. But what about the pleasure-giving character? I've heard this kind of character metaphorically referred to as a musician (with their lover being the musical instrument), or as the doting owner of a pet, but can you think of any kind of term that would condense this concept into one word?

 

[Stella_Omega]

And obviously, 'top' and 'bottom' don't do it...

that's rather disgusting that our language has no words for that!

lover and beloved-- which we think of as emotional states, but could refer to pleasure. maybe?

Giver and Getter?
Doer and Done unto?

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

servant and served?

host and guest?

 

[LWulf]

I suppose nymph and satyr wouldn't work because that presupposes the sex of either and describes both as being hedonistic, but hedonistic simply means the person pursues self gratification.

In psychology you have an enabler, which might describe the trait of the pleasure giver, but there really isn't an opposite to the enabler to my recollection. They have predators, but that implies a negative trait. You also have the inhibitor, but that seems to be going in a completely wrong direction...

 

[Ldy_Sea]

For some reason I'm reminded of an episode of Star Trek TOS where men were tribal and lived on he surface. Woman had technology and were referred to as "The givers of pain and delight"

You could call them delightists, pleasers, pleasureists, or (this one appeals to my sense of irony) Satists (root word sated)

as for the other side of the coin those who get the pleasure could be called the selfish fucks Or if you want something not quite as negative maybe enjoyers, enjoyists, receivers, or if you use satists than these folk could be satees or the sated.

I'm trying to write a story in a public story universe where sadist/masochist pairs of characters are fairly common. But I need a parallel set of terms to refer to a different pair of characters where one's focus in on giving pleasure and one focus is on receiving pleasure instead.

Just to be accurate satists derive pleasure from inflicting harm, masichists get pleasure from pain... so technically they do give and get pleasure as well.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

....Just to be accurate satists derive pleasure from inflicting harm, masichists get pleasure from pain... so technically they do give and get pleasure as well.

SaDists derive pleasure from inflicting pain (an entirely different thing than "harm").
MasOchists get pleasure from receiving pain.

 

[Stella_Omega]

SaDists derive pleasure from inflicting pain (an entirely different thing than "harm").
MasOchists get pleasure from receiving pain.

Ldy_Sea was engaged in a play upon words.
She was making humorous reference to the classic SM relationship, in the context of one person conferring a state of satedness upon another person. I thought is was clever, personally.

Masichists didn't quite work, though I'll give you that...

On further reflection, it could have been autocorrect.

 

[KoPilot]

servant and served?

host and guest?

I'm liking these!

 

[Ldy_Sea]

Ldy_Sea was engaged in a play upon words.
She was making humorous reference to the classic SM relationship, in the context of one person conferring a state of satedness upon another person. I thought is was clever, personally.

Masichists didn't quite work, though I'll give you that...

On further reflection, it could have been autocorrect.

Thank you for giving me more credit than is due. Actually I'm using a cheap ass tablet that malfunctions more than not. Ever since my laptop died. I am still trying to figure out how to disable autoco especially since it don't like words used in these forums but not in everyday language.

 

[Collar_N_Cuffs]

You might use Pan/Pan(ne) for Dom/Dom(me)
And I kind of like elate for the sub, putting the stress on the first syllable.
So...
Pan and Eelate (phonetically)
Not sure how easy that would be to get across via the written word, though...
Or -
Pan/Pan(ne) and
Phil/Fil
Maybe I am just tired

 

[sunandshadow]

I was looking in a thesaurus, the only relavant term I found was "pleaser". That might be too plain-sounding though. But I did come up with a good term for someone who wasn't a dom, switch or sub (i.e. didn't like power exchange). "Egal" - short for egalitarian, someone who likes equality.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'm trying to write a story in a public story universe where sadist/masochist pairs of characters are fairly common. But I need a parallel set of terms to refer to a different pair of characters where one's focus in on giving pleasure and one focus is on receiving pleasure instead. (Specifically the pleasure receiver is the sub and the pleasure-giver is the dom, if that matters.)

For receiving pleasure I could go with hedonist, unless someone has a better idea. Sybarite would be ok too. But what about the pleasure-giving character? I've heard this kind of character metaphorically referred to as a musician (with their lover being the musical instrument), or as the doting owner of a pet, but can you think of any kind of term that would condense this concept into one word?

"Popular". ;-)

If you're willing to coin new words, "eranthropist" might work: "philos" is brotherly love, "eros" is sexual love, so "eranthropist" would be a sexual counterpart to "philanthropist".

 

[Sweetdaisymae]

Would a sadomasochist be a global?

 

[sunandshadow]

"Popular". ;-)

If you're willing to coin new words, "eranthropist" might work: "philos" is brotherly love, "eros" is sexual love, so "eranthropist" would be a sexual counterpart to "philanthropist".

I'd have to abbreviate the heck out of it, but that's quite a noice coinage, maybe I can make it work somehow.

I wish I knew enough about word roots to do a similar thing for the word "enjoy" - what could be swapped for "en" to make it mean give joy or cause joy?

 

[sunandshadow]

Im a little surprised the word "sensualist" hasn't been suggested yet, or does that not fit?

If these are professionals you could simply go with "practitioner" and "client".

A sensualist (which is about wanting to experience sensations, unique sensory experiences) seems like it would also be for a pleasure receiver, the same as hedonist, sybarite, etc.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'd have to abbreviate the heck out of it, but that's quite a noice coinage, maybe I can make it work somehow.

I wish I knew enough about word roots to do a similar thing for the word "enjoy" - what could be swapped for "en" to make it mean give joy or cause joy?

Not sure, but I think that actually was an early meaning of "enjoy", in the same sort of way that "enfeeble" means "to make [object] feeble".

You could get into something like "enpleasure" but that seems very flowery. What about something like "satisfier"?

 

[Primalex]

I'm trying to write a story in a public story universe where sadist/masochist pairs of characters are fairly common. But I need a parallel set of terms to refer to a different pair of characters where one's focus in on giving pleasure and one focus is on receiving pleasure instead. (Specifically the pleasure receiver is the sub and the pleasure-giver is the dom, if that matters.)

The verb 'to grok' didn't exist before Robert Heinlein's "Stranger in a strange land" and it even made it into the Oxford English Dictionary.

 

[newsubandtop]

do you like "taker" and "giver"? They can be reversed

 

[Stella_Omega]

Or you could be totally appropriative and use the Japanese "seme" (pitcher) and "uke" (catcher)

 

[gretchenmilliner]

If they come in pairs, hedonist and enablers might do, or if you don't mind made up words hedonist and fulfiliant or headonator might be better. Alternatively you could modify a word to construct a reciprocal pairing like sensualee and sensualator.